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das kwl
in my last post, i meant that i do better against your MARTH than i do against Jman's FOX.
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Top 10 Best Peaches In The World.
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Mew2King
King of the Mews
ohhh ya ur too good vs marth cant ever get a kill move. Good thing Sheik exists. Marth... but with projectiles and a guaranteed kill move at certain %! lol
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
Its sad that ultra defensive/campy foxes are considered good. The fact that it works to the point where the match-up becomes near impossible for Peach is really, really stupid.
For god sakes even mediocre Foxes would win if all they did was camp. they'd never have to use anything that wasn't drillshine, uthrow, usmash, uair and laser.
Do you guys think campy fox = good fox? I know he's just playing to win but like..ugh. disgusting.
PB&J
Smash Hero
i don't think so...
Cia
das kwl
well he's a very skilled fox. he has insane technical ability and could probably beat me with out the excessive camping, but in tournament it's like "why not"
camping is obviously safer than approaching. so if you wanna win without taking chances, camp. it is terrible that a peach user could lose a match to a player that's not as skilled, but that's just the way it works.
in fact, Jman just beat Cort in tournament a little while ago. I'm not entirely sure if he's as skilled as Cort (certainly not as experienced) but.. ya
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das kwl
Zephynazo
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Milkieee: I think this top10 is crap ^^
armada is way too weak for example
cort needa be no1 imo
U don't know what ur talking about, Armada is defintly top 5. Play him when he gets to USA, if ur going to the Boston tournement.
U will understand what i mean by teh time u play him... if u ever do.
armada is way too weak for example
cort needa be no1 imo
U don't know what ur talking about, Armada is defintly top 5. Play him when he gets to USA, if ur going to the Boston tournement.
U will understand what i mean by teh time u play him... if u ever do.
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
lol, don't even ask that question. You know the answer to that already. >_>
Cort
Apple Head
I beat JMan with my Peach and went Marth the remainder of our tournament sets and got stage spiked at like 20 and did stupid things to get edge hogged at like 0 and lost a few games I shouldn't have.
But we were both kind of diicking around (except he tried camping my Peach first set but I think I still won 2 out of 3 matches)
But we were both kind of diicking around (except he tried camping my Peach first set but I think I still won 2 out of 3 matches)
Rain(ame)
Smash Champion
>_> Fox = Hard Gay. I'd rather play Marth/Sheik than a Fox any day. I gotta agree with VaNz on this one. My worst matchup is Fox by far. *waits for the unnecessary flames*Campy Fox = Harder and Gayer Fox by far. I wouldn't say it = good player, though. JMan is a beast, but he does go campy a LOT, xD. However...I will say that Fox is easier to Punish once you get a hold of him. Still a harder matchup though.
Samochan
Smash Master
Campy fox is gaaaah, annoying *****... however easier to deal with than marth imo, but sadly I lack marth experience and haven't dealt with that matchup too much recently, so I'm very rusty and try to play against him like space animals. <_< Fox can get comboed and punished if you get it going so that's a plus and on some stages it's harder to camp for him. I can also dsmash fox and edgeguard better, esp. since I play pal version fox is a more favorable matchup for me to play than marth. I'd do well to get my marth matchup skills up to par with my space animal skills however, otherwise I continue to get pwned by good marfs. <_<
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So I guess I am the only one who would take a Fox over Marth then.
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
campy fox is gay, like everyone above already stated. Defensive play is too powerful in melee. I loved when back in the day I could watch Peach vs. Fox without seeing lasers.
Baiting dsmashes and grabs and getting drillshines. mid-range dding and looking for grabs. smart aggro foxes I can respect, or a fox that mixes both. I'm so happy we don't have a single campy fox in canada.
Anyways...top 10 peach..Mike G and Cort are my favs by far. too bad mike doesn't play anymore.
Baiting dsmashes and grabs and getting drillshines. mid-range dding and looking for grabs. smart aggro foxes I can respect, or a fox that mixes both. I'm so happy we don't have a single campy fox in canada.
Anyways...top 10 peach..Mike G and Cort are my favs by far. too bad mike doesn't play anymore.
Samochan
Smash Master
Don't be so sure yet. ;o
Cause from what I know, mike g was inspired by mah peach (at least somewhat) when I showed him some vids. You just might be able to hear from him on melee scene in the future (hopefully). ^^
CanISmash
Smash Lord
^ are you still coming to spoc? also camping only gets you so far. there are a lot of characters that not moving or just shooting lasers at can get you *****. unfortunately peach isn't one. but yeah jman = good.
Cia
das kwl
i just played Jman today and he murdered my Peach <_<.. i know the fox match up, but it's incredibly stupid. In the end, i just went sheik. PEACH JUST DOESN'T WORK!
samo - yeah, in pal peach definitely does better against fox.
samo - yeah, in pal peach definitely does better against fox.
Samochan
Smash Master
Firefox also changed to lot shorter version (coincidentally allowing for a lot more effective edgeguard and edgehogs at lower%) and fox is -2 lighter now. But otherwise fox works the same, pwning peach.The only thing thatæs changed from NTSC to PAL is the usmash. It's a bit weaker, so i still think that fox could **** peach in PAL as well
JFox
Smash Hero
People just aren't used to fighting that style IMO. The key to fighting laser camping is to predict where they are gonna go when you catch up to them. If you attack them, you are always just gonna be chasing them. If you attack where they are gonna be, than you have a hit. Once you get that hit, you just need to make sure u keep the pressure on enough that you get follow up hits.
I'm not saying that that is easy, but thats what is necessary. Its not like the match isn't possible, just a little tricky. Peach v Fox is all about dem mindgrains, nah meen?
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
pwnt?
pwnt.
pwnt.
Cia
das kwl
BELiEVE IT!!
Kouryuu
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Marth is by far Peach's worst match up. Peach has virtually NOTHING over Marth. The most she can do is get dash attacks in when the Marth messes up his spacing or right after he lands from an aerial. That's really it.
At least Peach can punish Fox really well if the Fox messes up his spacing and/or if the Peach player predicts the Fox's movement patterns when the Fox is laser/platform camping.
At least Peach can punish Fox really well if the Fox messes up his spacing and/or if the Peach player predicts the Fox's movement patterns when the Fox is laser/platform camping.
hoopspr226
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bairs work alright against marth
Cia
das kwl
I really wish you guys could see..
the only reason you guys think marth is harder to fight is because you're going on the assumption that fox will make a mistake.
at least peach can camp marth and punish his lag. you can't even shield grab fox, WTF.. whatever
Pink Shinobi
Smash Ace
Fox is good/decent on all stages, even mute city. Too good.
Ryan-K
Smash Master
if fox lands a drill or a shine at 70 and up you die LOLOLOL
Flan
Smash Journeyman
lol, you guys have never seen Brian on a baaaad day. I'll be up a few stocks on him and he will refuse to approach me for at least 5 minutes.Excuse me?
I make hungrybox look aggressive.
Also, I rarely ever get Waveshined anymore, but maybe that cuz my opponent keeps getting punished ever time he messes up XD
you wouldve not said that a year and a half from now.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I've seen your Brian. Your Brian is soft things compared to me.
Flan
Smash Journeyman
lol probably not but that just depends if my opponent decides to start Waveshining me again. Peter (Sylar) always seems to catch me with one per set though.
Oh yeah, he was up there like two weekends ago. Btw, you guys spelled his name wrong on the Crew Battle.
XIF
Smash Master
Maybe your region has the luxury of imperfect Foxes that make mistakes, but down in Florida a messed up drill shine is 20 lashes.
AKA: They don't mess up.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I didn't name people in crew battle. Mostly because I got there at like 11 when the crew battle had long-since finished.
Also, I should move to Florida so I can be whipped by XIF.
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