Tier List without MK?

[camden]

Bowser isn't gonna go anywhere. MK isn't Bowser's only concern, seeing how Bowser is bad against at least 2/3 of the cast.

 

[tuestresfat]

by the way guys zss will move up to top tier because she won't have MK's giving her trouble on RC anymore so she can just CP everyone to RC and auto win cuz zss has such a godly uair, easily the best aerial in the entire game. and she won't have any trouble spacing cuz her sideb has such great range and no1 would try close combat against her or they risk getting hit by dsmash.

so much freaken bias in one thread just stfu about your own characters already.

 

[Grizzer]

by the way guys zss will move up to top tier because she won't have MK's giving her trouble on RC anymore so she can just CP everyone to RC and auto win cuz zss has such a godly uair, easily the best aerial in the entire game. and she won't have any trouble spacing cuz her sideb has such great range and no1 would try close combat against her or they risk getting hit by dsmash.

so much freaken bias in one thread just stfu about your own characters already.

/end hypocrism

winning a match because you can counterpick to RC means you lost the first match and if you can only win on the counterpick you'll most likely lose the third match too.
poor ZSS

 

[Ussi]

by the way guys zss will move up to top tier because she won't have MK's giving her trouble on RC anymore so she can just CP everyone to RC and auto win cuz zss has such a godly uair, easily the best aerial in the entire game. and she won't have any trouble spacing cuz her sideb has such great range and no1 would try close combat against her or they risk getting hit by dsmash.

so much freaken bias in one thread just stfu about your own characters already.

You're one to talk heh.. You're overrating ZSS's aerial game. I know its good, but it's not unstoppable. ZSS's dsmash takes too long to come out to be an a broken threat. Range is not everything.

/end hypocrism

winning a match because you can counterpick to RC means you lost the first match and if you can only win on the counterpick you'll most likely lose the third match too.
poor ZSS

Not exactly, he probably meant you have an "auto-win" on the 3rd match if you lose on the CP of your opponent.

 

[Jonas]

Nobody has mentioned Bowser?

Oh, right. Most people still have the Melee-complex when it comes to Bowser, I almost forgot.

Not that I don't need practice.

He'd get ***** by all the DDD's that will emerge when MK disappears.

 

[Gnes]

*steals*

 

[TheLastCacely]

Wario would be the best in the game..... calling it.

 

[Damage Points]

Keith ur all about hyping some wario now lol. Every thread I read your in it hyping I love it.

 

[tuestresfat]

/end hypocrism

winning a match because you can counterpick to RC means you lost the first match and if you can only win on the counterpick you'll most likely lose the third match too.
poor ZSS

you are really bad at recognizing sarcasm...

You're one to talk heh.. You're overrating ZSS's aerial game. I know its good, but it's not unstoppable. ZSS's dsmash takes too long to come out to be an a broken threat. Range is not everything.



Not exactly, he probably meant you have an "auto-win" on the 3rd match if you lose on the CP of your opponent.

so are you.

 

[Grizzer]

you are really bad at recognizing sarcasm...

why bother posting if you dont mean what you say? you really must have nothing better to do -.-

 

[Damage Points]

I think wario would climb back to top 4. He's a difficult matchup for alot of players.

 

[tuestresfat]

why bother posting if you dont mean what you say? you really must have nothing better to do -.-

you don't know what sarcasm is...? here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

 

[Beren Zaiga]

He'd get ***** by all the DDD's that will emerge when MK disappears.

Stayed neck and neck with a DDD in a three stock match before getting KO'ed, and he was pretty well-versed in how to play him, you call that getting *****?

Okay.

Though I tend to think I am better than some Bowsers, but like I said: Its not like I'm not in need of practice.

 

[Silly Kyle]

Peach would become the best character ever!!

And she would counter Wario, Olimar, and Ice Climbers!

 

[Goldenadept]

wolf would be top tier duh, even against pika and D3 them two is pansies :3

 

[Juno McGrath]

Wario would be the best in the game..... calling it.

so ****ing wrong...

 

[stingers]

wario would probably be like below peach lmao

 

[Juno McGrath]

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[M@v]

The only top tiers who would get boosts would be Marth and d3. A couple lower tiers might do better, like rob and peach, but they wouldnt sky rocket. Peach might not have to worry about mk, but would proceed to get wrecked by the hordes of marths.

 

[Jash]

Toon Link would be the best character in the game, or maybe second best, dead serious.

 

[Ksenics]

bowser would be god tier

 

[MKOwnage]

Toon Link would be the best character in the game, or maybe second best, dead serious.

Hell no..
He would get gayed so easy by Olimar, Wario and Marth.

 

[Yung Mei]

Ganondorf would be Fist of the North Star tier

 

[Jash]

Hell no..
He would get gayed so easy by Olimar, Wario and Marth.

Non believers, I'll show you all.

 

[Kaffei]

Hell no..
He would get gayed so easy by Olimar, Wario and Marth.

No. .

 

[-LzR-]

Rob would rise to like 7th easily, his only bad MU would be Dedede.

 

[Jonas]

Stayed neck and neck with a DDD in a three stock match before getting KO'ed, and he was pretty well-versed in how to play him, you call that getting *****?

Okay.

Though I tend to think I am better than some Bowsers, but like I said: Its not like I'm not in need of practice.

Gratz on not getting grabbed, but it's still one of Bowser's worst match-ups, if not the worst.

 

[Alphicans]

I wonder what GaW's fate would be. More ROB's make it a bit easier, less MK's make it a lot easier, more D3's don't make much difference, but a lot more marth's makes it a lot harder. I bet he'd move above lucario though.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Everything has already been said. Marth, IC's, D3, and Snake are top tier. I don't see much of a rise from mid tier other than TL and maybe Sonic.

 

[IIIIRICK]

Marth would go up a lot.
his only semi bad matchup would be ddd.

 

[bigbucks]

Snake will be top, He has the best matchups. his so called disadvantageous matchups. D3,Falco, an olimar are considered even matchups.

 

[PieDisliker]

Marth, Snake, Falco, DDD, Wario, ICs in that order. Not sure where Olimar or Pika would be.

 

[stingers]

ROBs only bad matchup would be DDD yeah, but less MKs = 5x as many DDDs. and some new ZSSes, and since ROB might actually be a threat now, they might actually learn how to do the infinite.

 

[$Lil' Gerald Is In Dat Style$]

Lol, w/o MK, characters from C and D tier would have an okay chance to rise in the tier list possibly.

 

[Kitamerby]

Without MK, the only characters that'll see more use is A and maybe some of B tier. Everyone else will severely suffer at the increase of A/B tier. Everyone C and below will just drop like a rock.

 

[Mota]

Without MK, the only characters that'll see more use is A and maybe some of B tier. Everyone else will severely suffer at the increase of A/B tier. Everyone C and below will just drop like a rock.

Wait, so with the present MK metagame, C tier and below aren't already dropping like rocks?

Without MK, there would be better balance, harmony and goodwill to all.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Tier list without Meta Knight would be the same. Except without Meta Knight. Cause he's not there. O.o *mind blown*

 

[Kitamerby]

Wait, so with the present MK metagame, C tier and below aren't already dropping like rocks?

Without MK, there would be better balance, harmony and goodwill to all among A tier.

Most characters worst matchups below C tier are often Snake, Falco, Diddy, Marth, or DDD, who the lower tiers often have worse matchups with than their matchup with MK. Take MK out of the picture and suddenly the mentioned characters are thriving even more than they are now, which makes the lower tiers even worse, if only slightly. :V

 

[TheBlossomingLily]

Tier list without Meta Knight would be the same. Except without Meta Knight. Cause he's not there. O.o *mind blown*

Deja vu here...
*Goes to re-read posts on first page*

The same, then everyone will say Snake is broken.

I'm sorry, but do you think before you post? Snake has some legitimately bad matchups, unlike MK. Snake is a great character, but will never be considered broken. This isn't April '08.

Also, the tier list would not be the same. There are a good number of characters that get outright ***** by MK and have decent matchups overall (Marth comes to mind). They would all move up a decent amount.

This could probably be in the MK discussion, by the way.

There we go. Funny how that works~

 

[Damage Points]

Wario!!!!!