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I had eggs breakfast. Woops wrong thread. Actualy it's relevant
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No they just don't know how to edgeguard it. At least it's not broken when he could INFINITELY wall jump. Plus Mario's up b has lag unlike Fox or Falco where as soon as they land they have almost no endlag.Yeah but I think Mario's wall jump recovery is too good. He gets an overwhelming advantage when playing on certain stages compared to others.
you and i can finally agree on something for the first time in forever lolBut Sheik better watch out for Mewtwo. I've lost to too many Sheiks in my Melee days with Mewtwo. I can't wait to get my hands on PM Mewtwo to start my path of revenge.
You can't honestly say that Mario doesn't get the same recovery options on Dracula's castle compared to like Pokemon Stadium 2 and Battlefield.No they just don't know how to edgeguard it. At least it's not broken when he could INFINITELY wall jump. Plus Mario's up b has lag unlike Fox or Falco where as soon as they land they have almost no endlag.
I would see a Darkness effect like Ganon's but in Cyan color with more Tron-likeness, and then a bit of yellow electricity mixed inIf MK had an element, it would probably be Light/Lightning
I feel more qualified every dayEvery single person in the BR has a Wii.
Boozer is so under powered. When I smash someone, it takes about 1.5 seconds for them to fly off the stage and die. It needs to be cut down to 0.0001 secondsLet's hope the PMBR doesn't nerf Boozer in reaction to this.
If he ends up with a huge list of nerf-tweaks but blue fire on his neutral-b to compensate I'll be severely disappointed .
Really? Well now the question is then, what do we name his horror movie parody?iirc SB once mentioned that wolf's what a balanced space animal would be. The more i play wolf, the less I think that's true. He's incredible.
Lots of people put him in the top 10. Imo He's better than Falco and probably top 3 or top 5. Atm, Wolf's meta is not quite there yet..
Melee purists. What can you do? Having only Fox and Falco as top tiers is the only way to please themAfter the end of PM grands and the Mewtwo trailer, the Melee commentary guys came on and immediately said that they think PM Bowser is clearly OP and should be toned down. It's like someone can't win a PM tourney because they are the best entrant, they can only win because of their character.
If Mario's recovery were to see a nerf, I'd just give it it's Melee walljump timing back. Perhaps a less ridiculous hitbox on the hand, and more proportional animations would do good as well. As for Falcon.....whoo boy. He feels like he was Sonic all this time, the way he just runs of like the "Boiling Man-Sauce", entity he is. I just really have learned to hate Falcon fights, and I just don't get that awesome power surge so many yearn for when they play him. It feels like nothing more than grab, down air, dash dance, neutral air, up air, back air, and knees. This may seem like a good list of moves, but most of his evasion, and defense in general, is just dashing around, and these moves make combos feel run of the mill to me. : /
(Just Do It from Kjab is still a good watch though, I don't know why.)
No. No it isn't. Again since people don't want to put in the work to LEARN how to edgeguard him. Everything has to easy huh? "Oh too hard to edgeguard nerf pls!" I HATE THAT LOGIC.I'll still hold true that Mario's up-b wall jump recovery is stupid.
i think you guys over-estimate the people that don't want to see fox or falco change simply because of how they are in melee. maybe people don't want them changed because they think it's unnecessary, but i would say that the number of people that actually want PM to be melee 2.0 is alarmingly lower than these forums make it out to be.
i think you guys over-estimate the people that don't want to see fox or falco change simply because of how they are in melee. maybe people don't want them changed because they think it's unnecessary, but i would say that the number of people that actually want PM to be melee 2.0 is alarmingly lower than these forums make it out to be.
Lol, for a second, I thought you were talking about Brawl Minus and I was thinking, "There should be a forum for it!" and then realized I read this completely wrong. Grammar my man (although I suck at it, LOL). And it was my fault too. But I got all excited for a Brawl Minus forum.I don't understand why there is so much hate for a game that is in large part responsible for this game...more than in large part. Minus melee's existence I don't even think this forum would exist.
I mainly see hate for the spacies over general dislike of Melee.
I like melee more than PM overall and I think Spacies design is silly so I am on the change them camp. I don't like it when either side of a argument takes it to extremes and attacks the person instead of merely disagreeing.well it's hate for melee hidden behind hate for spacies. At least that is the way it comes out. Might as well start calling people the N word or something. It's like this...
"We think spacies are too much and can't be beat in the highest level of PM" ~ Person 1
"I don't agree, I think spacies as they are have enough competition in PM and more is on the rise as new characters and buffed characters emerge. So far, they haven't proven themselves unbeatable" ~ Person 2
"SHUT THE **** UP YOU ****ING MELEE PLAYER!!!!!" ~Person 1.
Honestly it's starting to make me kind of sick to my stomach. If I were a mod I'd take things like this more seriously. Instead, many of them have joined in....smh.
"If you want to destroy a community, allow hatred to flourish." ~ Archangel 2013
It doesn't matter if its possible to edgeguard. The fact that you can recover from ridiculous distances and use fireballs to cover yourself is already hard enough to edgeguard. Is it possible to edgeguard? Of course it is. But Mario already has an incredible ground game and can already cover enough of a distance recovering without his up-b wall jump. There needs to be a balance between the two. I find it borderline insulting that just because I don't agree with you with this one thing (that I also supported with points I might add), I automatically think that everything in this game has to be easy mode and I don't know any better. That logic is even more disrespectful and I'd rather you just talk normally with written points instead of jumping to conclusions about my personality or the way I play.No. No it isn't. Again since people don't want to put in the work to LEARN how to edgeguard him. Everything has to easy huh? "Oh too hard to edgeguard nerf pls!" I HATE THAT LOGIC.
If I remember, you were one of the first who complained when you found out that Fox and Falco lost their invincibility on their shines.Melee purists. What can you do? Having only Fox and Falco as top tiers is the only way to please them
internalized racism to happen over centuries upon centuries of time: basically the same thing as disliking a videogame characterMight as well start calling people the N word or something
You got me there lol . But I agree that Fox/Falco need some tweaks. Mario already has the two weaknesses of range and very linear approach.It doesn't matter if its possible to edgeguard. The fact that you can recovery from ridiculous distances and use fireballs to cover yourself is already hard enough to edgeguard. Is it possible to edgeguard? Of course it is. But Mario already has an incredible ground game and can already cover enough of a distance recovering without his up-b wall jump. There needs to be a balance between the two. I find it borderline insulting that just because I don't agree with you with this one thing (that I also supported with points I might add), I automatically think that I think that everything in this game has to be easy mode. That logic is even more disrespectful and I'd rather you just talk normally with written points instead of jumping to conclusions about my personality or the way I play.
If I remember, you were one of the first who complained when you found out that Fox and Falco lost their invincibility on their shines.
A character having weaknessess does not exclud them from being altered. It is all about their overall design. Last patch characters such as Charizard got tweaks and he is much worse than Mario.You got me there lol . But I agree that Fox/Falco need some tweaks. Mario already has the two weaknesses of range and very linear approach.
But there isn't anything overpowered about Mario. He seems to be the most balanced.A character having weaknessess does not exclud them from being altered. It is all about their overall design. Last patch characters such as Charizard got tweaks and he is much worse than Mario.
Define balanced. I think Mario is easily one of the best characters in the game and far better than the lower characters.But there isn't anything overpowered about Mario. He seems to be the most balanced.
I also want to add that if this is your impression on the character, you must play against terrible Marios.How come nobody wants to learn ****ing matchups. Mario is NOWHERE near being broken. His range is abysmal and he relies on grabs and fireballs which are predictable. Mario needs the good recovery he has now or else he'll fall down. There is this weird cycle where if this character does this good then they should get nerfed and I HATE THAT. Learn the matchup and stop *****ing.
Who here thinks Wolf isn't high tier? Let's kick up some ****.People call me crazy when I say Wolf is a lot of characters hardest matchups. I'm a Wolf main now, *****es. Hawoolinois Wolf Pack rises again.