Tier List Speculation

[Strong Badam]

I have a hard time believing people who are gay and who hate it when people use gay to mean stupid would agree with your ridiculous statement that obviously reeks of hetero-privilege. It's not about being sensitive: its about being mature and providing a common courtesy not to turn a word that people ascribe to their identities as inherently good or bad.

And SpiderMad, your cute verbal acrobatics doesn't make the point any less valid. Fact: Gay means happy. Fact: Gay means homosexual.
You can actively try and be a part of a culture that makes Gay mean bad/stupid/dumb, but why would you want to be? And if you are a part of it, then you are partaking in inventing a world that makes Gay people feel alienated. That is definitionally homophobic, so don't treat me like I'm the bad guy when people in this topic (and community) would like to persist in transforming gay to mean dumb/stupid.

to add to this, think of it this way:
jigglypuff is often revered as the "gayest" character in super smash bros. melee. now, if we think about this, calling jigglypuff "gay" is (intentionally or not) comparing homosexuals to jigglypuff. would you, personally, want to be compared to jigglypuff? i don't think so. consider this next time you're about to call something that's frustrating "gay."

on-topic, I should have my tier list ready to post by Monday.

 

[GunBlaze]

Based Strong Bad has SPOKEN!

 

[JTsm]

I don't see how that was supposed to be funny.

First of all, I'm a homophobic bisexual, so watch out

Second, before you guys have your "superior morality" speech, lemmie tell you how Gay = Top tier = Good. So really, You can take it both ways, but I would put Gay as good because whenever someone says "gay" that means Gay is a strong force in the gaming community

You guys are easy to troll. xD Oh and my list is real tho.

 

[Kink-Link5]

Being a chode isn't the same as trolling

 

[SpiderMad]

Snake players yo

 

[Yung Mei]

First of all, I'm a homophobic bisexual, so watch out

Second, before you guys have your "superior morality" speech, lemmie tell you how Gay = Top tier = Good. So really, You can take it both ways, but I would put Gay as good because whenever someone says "gay" that means Gay is a strong force in the gaming community

You guys are easy to troll. xD Oh and my list is real tho.

holy **** youre so pathetic

"I-I WAS J-JUST TROLLING GUYS! HONEST! I WAS J-JUST PRETENDING TO BE ********!"

go **** yourself

 

[BlinkIV]

Is this even a tier list thread anymore?

 

[Kink-Link5]

Yes

Toon Link is booty

Squaretl is booty

 

[Strong Badam]

so yeah wario's amazing

 

[Scythe]

he's pretty solid

 

[Yung Mei]

warios nair is probably one of the most disappointing moves to get killed by

 

[Vashimus]

Yeah, pretty well designed character...



something something...




tacos.

 

[HyperrCrow]

Nair-plane baby

 

[Yung Mei]

i agree, warios nair is the new nairplane

 

[jayeldeee]

well Zelda is strong at lower levels isn't she I mean in Brawl's first tier list she was mid tier so yeah.

lolhwat?

@ zelda talk:
I don't know what you guys are talking about. Zelda is fantastic. Her Down B is one of the best moves in the entire game by far.

LOL.

Based Strong Bad has SPOKEN!

LOLOLOLOL.

And I'm trying to find more videos based of PM 2.6. I've found a couple, but mostly of what I've been seeing is 2.5b playing. I don't want to guess but actually analyze legit playing. Not some play around stuff. Dis iz seriouz business guiez, ermahgerd!

 

[SpiderMad]

Credentials (not that my list is any good lol)

Spoiler

http://smashboards.com/threads/exp-gaming-wavedash-wednesday-3-27-13.335279/ Diddy: 1st [Wifi/HDTV experience in the past assisted me ]
http://smashboards.com/threads/and-project-m-diego-nooooooo-3-glen-ellyn-il-june22nd.338284/ Diddy: 4th
http://smashboards.com/threads/smashing-grounds-the-final-frontier-2.323590/#post-14561622 Team prepare yourself!
http://allisbrawl.com/ladder/history.aspx?id=85683 Diddy
http://challonge.com/pmwifiweekly6 Ike: 1st
http://www.youtube.com/user/MADIsABoss Combo videos
http://www.youtube.com/user/PMDepot Tutorial videos

Tier List 2.6 (2.5 is a different game with Sonic top tier and Ike bottom, and Diddy/Pit higher and cooler)

Spoiler

(+/-)= (Potential to move Higher/Lower)
-----------------
Fox, (+/-)Ivy
I can murder you
Falco, Peach, Wolf
get out of my way
Shielda
I am two viable characters connected with a low risk move
Bowser, (Sheik, Zelda)
I can be shut down but I don't care I'm taking your stocks
(-)DK
I'ma ****in monkey now get on my back and enjoy the ride
(+)MK, Ike, Link, Charizard, ZSS, Marth, (+)Squirtle, Pit, Wario, (-)Lucario
I'm fast and calculated and only certain things can shut me down especially if I don't know the MU
Diddy, CF, (+)Sonic, Lucas
I'm fast and angry but please let me do my thing
Ganon, (+)Game and Watch, Toon Link, Ness
I got explosive talents but not enough
(+)DeDeDe, (+)Luigi, Jigglypuff, Pikachu
I'm not broken enough apparently but I have hope

MUs I'm sure are close to correct

Spoiler

Sheik, Link, D3 > Ike
DK > Marth
Lucas > D3
Ivy > Puff

Diddy, CF = Ike
Mario, Ganon, Marth= Diddy
Squirtle, Bowser, Ivy, Snake, (+/-Ike) = Spacies

 

[Nausicaa]

Dedede is the only broken thing in the game.
Nobody else is broken enough.

 

[9bit]

Meta Knight still too new to place accurately? Right now I'd put him high-mid, but that could easily move as people not only figure out how to play as him but against him as well.

 

[DMG]

Ivy as number 2 is unacceptable. Both if it was reality and if it was just a dream. That character better not be fresher than a Ham sandwich. Poastin from my garb phone because thats how far I'll go to say **** Ivy that stiny sourkrat whatever office plant made from broken dreams of third world children. Posted from mobile *** device (if you post mobile, skip this extra **** you pricks, makes you look like a stupid a-hole no one cares bout taptalktext5000androidiphone device post ending)

 

[SpiderMad]

Poastin from my garb phone because thats how far I'll go to say **** Ivy that stiny sourkrat whatever office plant made from broken dreams of third world children. Posted from mobile *** device (if you post mobile, skip this extra **** you pricks, makes you look like a stupid a-hole no one cares bout taptalktext5000androidiphone device post ending)

Yeah that's why I usually save myself this post and leave it on lol. Are you saying she should be #1 or way less than #2?

Sent from my W7 Dell XPS 420 using ~NEW~ Chrome Tapatalk App ~All the wonders of Tapatalk now for Desktop browsing™~

 

[Oniperson]

Characters do as well as the person playing as them in a tournament setting. Tournament results and expectations shouldn't have weight on placement, else Fox and Bowser would look far and away unbeatable.

We can sort of look at Melee results NOW, this many years down the line, only to reenforce the claim that the characters are viable or not, but it's obvious at a GLANCE, that characters like Roy are far less usable than, say, Sheik. Melee has been around long enough to be able to say what does and doesn't work, and the tournament results reflect the things that work, not the other way around.

It's much more productive to talk about how well certain characters do in relation to each other in those matchups as well as compared to the rest of the cast in those matchups.

Like how Toon Link does well in matchups that other characters also do well in, but does poorly in other matchups; a fault others don't have. Oh, he beats Jigglypuff and Peach? BRB killing with DK at 60 off a grab.

I'm afraid I don't get your point, my friend.

 

[NightShadow6]

So that charizard is soaring to new heights.

 

[SpiderMad]

So that charizard is soaring to new heights.

I just saw Met's Zard make SB switch from DK to Wario.. and I thought that was one of Zard's bad MUs O_O

 

[Kink-Link5]

I'd contend the opposite as being true. DK outshines Charizard's traits in other matchups, but in the 1on1, Charizard has a massive range advantage against one of the easiest-to-combo weight and size-classes.

 

[Strong Badam]

i just hate fighting zard/ddd's weight class w/ dk, i don't get very many uairs in strings because he's a little floatier than most there, and i don't get to KO him early with cargo u throw uair. and he edgeguards dk's linear recovery really well.

i would have switched to wario game 2, but i thought rat wanted to see dk vs charizard (since he requested it). oh well lol

 

[Archangel]

Again playing for the timeout really isn't what makes zelda such a chore. Plenty of characters besides her stretch the timer. There's a good reason why the timer was made to be 8 minutes in the first place, and its because not all matches are Falcon dittos. Zelda's gameplay is what makes her wholly unappealing, whether it lasted 2 minutes of getting U-smash juggled to 7 minutes getting pushed out.

You realize I play melee? alot of melee? and alot of melee's rare and gay MUs? See this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VFzzsLY-Hs

 

[Oro?!]

Top level evidence.

 

[CyberZixx]

I do not see how Ivysaur is that good. Better than Shiek and Falco, really?

 

[Yung Mei]

I do not see how Ivysaur is that good. Better than Shiek and Falco, really?

i know certain characters she can wall out hella easy using leech bomb and side b. Bair is awesome at keep away as well when used with the other two

 

[Archangel]

Top level evidence.

nah just me playing gay for a change. except in PM...with Pit...

 

[KayB]

To be fair, Skimchee was putting in work with Ivy in the S@X weekly. He was playing really solidly until he ran into Squeak in LSF.

 

[Archangel]

what did the cannibal do after dumping his girlfriend?































Answer: wipes his butt.

 

[DMG]

I thought you were going to say he took her to the taxidermy and donated her to the local politician as a gag. Disappointing

 

[TheReflexWonder]

I do not see how Ivysaur is that good. Better than Shiek and Falco, really?

She's not.

 

[Archangel]

Ivy is lame, able to punish terrible things and make limited characters or characters without projectiles and/or long reach look like crap. Aside from that Ivy is a little *****.

 

[DMG]

Hey now I started the hate Ivy train awhile ago. Can't meatride the veggie slaughtering.

 

[Professor Pro]

Why hasn't this thread been temporarily closed until Monday....didn't you guys hear that Strong Bad has a tier list coming up, what anyone says after that is irrelevant.

 

[leelue]

Tier list

Fox
Sheik
Wario
Metaknight
Snake
Peach
Falco
GW
Wolf

Ivysaur
Marth
DK
DDD

Pit
Mario
Zard
Diddy
ZSS
Zelda
Bowser
Luigi

Link
Ganon
Captain Falcon
Pikachu
Toon Link


Omitting due to inexperience
Lucario
Rob
Squirtle
Puff
Lucas
Ike

Fudged everything from ZSS to Pit

 

[The_NZA]

Tier list

Fox
Sheik
Wario
Metaknight
Snake
Peach
Falco
GW
Wolf

Ivysaur
Marth
DK
DDD

Pit
Mario
Zard
Diddy
ZSS
Zelda
Bowser
Luigi

Link
Ganon
Captain Falcon
Pikachu
Toon Link


Omitting due to inexperience
Lucario
Rob
Squirtle
Puff
Lucas
Ike

Fudged everything from ZSS to Pit

I think you are forgetting someone.

OKAAAAY!?

 

[Professor Pro]

Tier list

Fox
Sheik
Wario
Metaknight
Snake
Peach
Falco
GW
Wolf

Ivysaur
Marth
DK
DDD

Pit
Mario
Zard
Diddy
ZSS
Zelda
Bowser
Luigi

Link
Ganon
Captain Falcon
Pikachu
Toon Link


Omitting due to inexperience
Lucario
Rob
Squirtle
Puff
Lucas
Ike

Fudged everything from ZSS to Pit