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My friend chooses fox > I choose gnw > side-b to death (i get like "9" 90% of the time just when he plays lol)
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Tier List Speculation
- Thread starter OkamiBW
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i played chu a lot this weekend. he said he wants you guys to finish kirby or ice climbers.
Dakpo
Smash Lord
What important update did he have in 2.5?
Dakpo
Smash Lord
Hmm thats scary if he was made heavier since we still die to fox upsmash at 60. I think Pikachus Up smash has killed me around 50 before on Yoshi Islansd (brawl)
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
If Fox's up smash and up air made any actual sense, GnW could probably have an even matchup against him
BlinkIV
Avenger
They don't, and they won't.
Oro?!
Smash Hero
Bcuz melee master race.
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
More mobility when he came out of up-B OOS, weight impr-- wait, there is an entire thread on this in the GnW boards. Go and read it.
metroid1117
Smash Master
Honestly, I think the most important changes that G&W got from 2.5 -> 2.6 were new techroll animations that don't make him completely free when he has to land on the ground during tumble.
Nemiak temp
Smash Apprentice
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Really? I haven't noticed that. They still seem to suck ass lol.
Scythe
Smash Master
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we weren't talking about 2.5 to 2.6 metroid!!!!
Dakpo
Smash Lord
EDIT- screw what I said. 2.5 GnW could have placed as well as 2.6
2.1 GnW definitely had the potential to place that well, but the changes helped
Ok, read it. We got a lot of stuff in 2.5 concerning slight damage increases, Side B alterations (not that important), and physics changes to the Up-B? (didnt give us any more vertical or horizontal range)
So the damage increases seem to be awesome, and that about does it. The rest of the changes are "quality of life changes" that don't effect how the character can consistently perform. The Bucket alteration is super fun though
http://smashboards.com/threads/g-w-2-5-vs-g-w-2-1.332743/
2.5 to 2.6 is a little bit different story.The fixing of his Tech roll is the BEST CHANGE EVER. <3333333 much love to all the project Melee staff that worked that in.
His bacon is a curse and a blessing. It screws up combos and enables other combos then randomly kills people. People find in more annoying, but tbh it doesn't change how the character is played. The dots on his side B are another extremely fun "quality of life change"
I think that the character only needs one change and then they should stop tweaking him. They should make his Throw animation faster. Not to be confused with his grab animation, which is fine. GnW loses a lot of his Metagame in doubles because his throws are entirely to slow to be viable. This change wouldn't effect singles and I think would be reasonable. (maybe keep the down throw timing so people dont have to relearn the tech timing)
I believe this character can play fine in the metagame against any character. We just have to get better and learn the match-ups better/outplay people. I feel GnW is at the top of mid-tier. Maybe High tier with a better spot dodge
I got trolled I feelz.
vidjogamer
Smash Master
Just played G&W for the first time. Hes definitely not bottom.
You easily have the best avatar out of everyone I have seen thus far.
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
Gotta love those knee-jerk reactions to character mechanics the first time you experience them.
/ignorance
/ignorance
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
***** i don't eat biscuits
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
So flaky and pure? Sounds like a virgin chick who doesn't return calls
guys
i know how to 9 every time
g&w secret top tier
especially now that spacies are unplayable garbage who can't even be invincible on frame 1 anymore
keep it on the dl though
i know how to 9 every time
g&w secret top tier
especially now that spacies are unplayable garbage who can't even be invincible on frame 1 anymore
keep it on the dl though
Yomi-no-Kuni
Smash Lord
Metroid, you still play Ike, right?
how do you feel about how Ike is right now? still decent/viable or was he hit too hard from 2.1 to 2.5? I don't know anyone who plays Ike, so its hard to judge, but i think it's a shame we don't get to see any Ike action anymore...
and whoever posted his Tierlist the page before with explanations: You forgot charizard.(Or i'm blind)
And to jayeldeee: I think i need to steal your avatar for another board! I'm sorry.
how do you feel about how Ike is right now? still decent/viable or was he hit too hard from 2.1 to 2.5? I don't know anyone who plays Ike, so its hard to judge, but i think it's a shame we don't get to see any Ike action anymore...
and whoever posted his Tierlist the page before with explanations: You forgot charizard.(Or i'm blind)
And to jayeldeee: I think i need to steal your avatar for another board! I'm sorry.
Ike sucks. Don't listen to Metroid.
BlinkIV
Avenger
Is it something like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNso8MtLwps
Gifts
¡Me gusta tejer!
Ally still plays Ike. Recently just took second at a pretty large Melee/Brawl MI event. Once some video's are up I can link you them.
LOLOLOL, thank you guys. I appreciate that. Have you guys seen the I Say Shark?:
But in all seriousness, has anyone found any tournament videos from 2.6 that maybe we can study and contemplate on? I'm trying to remember the one I watched on twitch a few weeks ago, but I can't remember if they were playing 2.5b or 2.6.
Yomi-no-Kuni
Smash Lord
There's heaps of 2.6 tourney vids out there, just check the character specific boards to find some for every character
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
Not sure if I would call GnW top of mid-tier, but I guess he's there in mid tier. That's enough for me.
Actually change some of the dumb stuff he got in 2.6 and you'll have sated me.
Actually change some of the dumb stuff he got in 2.6 and you'll have sated me.
metroid1117
Smash Master
IMHO Ike is significantly better in 2.6 than he was in 2.5 (but still not as good as 2.1). I'm not sure how he does in the problem match-ups he had in 2.5 (Sheik, Sonic, etc.), but I doubt he'll need any major changes in future releases to retain his viability. I don't think he's top tier by any means, but I think he's as, if not more viable in the same way that Melee Falcon was viable.
As an aside, here's a $1MM I had with Rat's Wolf as Ike from a couple of weeks ago. I don't like to "toot my own horn," but if anyone was looking for Ike videos, that's my most recent one.
You'll get no sympathy from me if we ever play.
(j/k again)
ELI-mination
Smash Champion
damn metroid calm down
you're so mean
you're so mean
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
yhea **** having good stuff vs fastfallers, lets just have them **** everything 70-30 free thats way better
Minor Pandemic
Smash Apprentice
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In fairness, just because Fox and Falco are crazy strong and fall fast doesn't mean there aren't other characters like Falcon and Wolf that are in a much better place balance-wise but still get trashed by things that hurt the faster falling characters.
It killed every else pretty early, too.
SwordsRbroken
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So what's the general consensus on Zelda, besides the fact that she's annoying as hell to fight with certain characters?