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[DeLux]

Birds of a feather
Boost Kick together

We live and we die
For the crimson flash in the sky

 

[pichuthedk]

Lol you two kill me xD.

So I have finished that list of mine I just need to finish recording /uploading it *sigh* -_-0.

@ Tobi_Whatever did you finish up loading the videos you were doing for the combo list ? I want to watch/ download them so they are encoded into my brain , so I have no johns.

 

[DeLux]

The only combo I need does 16 damage fresh and kill obscenely early just saying

 

[Tobi_Whatever]

Lol you two kill me xD.

So I have finished that list of mine I just need to finish recording /uploading it *sigh* -_-0.

@ Tobi_Whatever did you finish up loading the videos you were doing for the combo list ? I want to watch/ download them so they are encoded into my brain , so I have no johns.

Videos are done, and cutting everything together is halfway done.
I'm having a few IRL Johns right now because of exams but it won't take long now

 

[pichuthedk]

That's cool I'm just at wits end at the moment , IRL johns and my lack of a wii u system aside I'm tired of believing u am comfortable with a MU one tourney and then getting straight up exposed on stream by the same character at another tourney.

Going to seriously develop some sort of training routine.

 

[DeLux]

Maybe matchups aren't real because the characters aren't real.

 

[Tobi_Whatever]

Maybe matchups aren't real because the characters aren't real.

How can characters be real if our eyes aren't real

Spoiler

 

[DeLux]

I'm 100% serious.

I know 0 matchups.

But I know myself and I know my opponents.

Each game is an exercise in empathy and self discovery. If you treat it as such, you can never lose.

 

[Tobi_Whatever]

I'm 100% serious.

I know 0 matchups.

But I know myself and I know my opponents.

Each game is an exercise in empathy and self discovery. If you treat it as such, you can never lose.

Every time I feel like a MU is hard as hell,
I remember that I can boostkick

 

[DeLux]

Sometimes when I don't know what I'm doing, I remember I can do anything.

 

[pichuthedk]

Well **** looks like I stumbled onto the holy grail here. However I still hate Ness I think it's about time to clock in a few hours of Ness gamplay.

But I sure as hell am going to copy what Delux just said save that In my phone for those dark moments in bracket.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Anyone have advice approaching small characters? I rely a lot on things like Zair, falling nair, falling uair, and retreating bair, and all of these become obnoxiously hard to land against the little guys like Pikachu and Ness. Any alternatives worth knowing about?

 

[CatStache]

Birds of a feather
Boost Kick together

We live and we die
For the crimson flash in the sky

Maybe matchups aren't real because the characters aren't real.

Each game is an exercise in empathy and self discovery. If you treat it as such, you can never lose.

#Deep

 

[ApolloJustice]

Anyone have advice approaching small characters? I rely a lot on things like Zair, falling nair, falling uair, and retreating bair, and all of these become obnoxiously hard to land against the little guys like Pikachu and Ness. Any alternatives worth knowing about?

I'd like to say I prefer Plasma Whip but that isn't the best for approaching, Dash Attack is also another option.

 

[David Viran]

Anyone have advice approaching small characters? I rely a lot on things like Zair, falling nair, falling uair, and retreating bair, and all of these become obnoxiously hard to land against the little guys like Pikachu and Ness. Any alternatives worth knowing about?

I really don't find nair being hard to land against small characters as it hits low. Bair I didn't find to hard after like 10 minutes of learning how to fast fall with it. I like to use ftilts and dsmash as well and maybe some dtilts too.

 

[Shaya]

Stay grounded more often.
Learn to space with down tilt well, you don't want to be getting grabbed from it, but it's good for it's range/low sweep.

Lower angled ftilts, empty short hops to get jab1 pressure.

Personally I think Megaman must be one of the most infuriating characters for ZSS to hit :<
He seems to be apt at popping out of up-b (much like Mac) and his hurtbox must literally be a single rectangle because all those extremities like his HEAD/FEET/ARMS just won't register as hitting him, makes spacing aerials on him grounded ********, nothing works lol.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Speaking of small characters! Whoever designed Kirby's crouch hurtbox might be satan. I'm not gonna say he is satan, just that he might be.

****ing christ, I never thought I'd feel the need to pick Pikachu again, but he can literally duck under a dash attack.

A ****ING DASH ATTACK.

 

[DeLux]

As a born again Kirby main, your anger gives me strength.

 

[Shaya]

I'm fine with the idea of having a neutral state akin to crouching that negates mid-height options.

But characters like Pikachu becoming flat as if he is crouched during the animations/lag of a lot of his moveset? Absolute bull ****.

 

[pichuthedk]

^ I have been QQing about this from Day 1 man.

We hunt down bounties from all over the galaxy just to be done in by small AF puffball.

 

[Tobi_Whatever]

^ I have been QQing about this from Day 1 man.

We hunt down bounties from all over the galaxy just to be done in by small AF puffball.

Have you guys actually ever encountered a Jiggs that uses her crouch?
All my pink deathball enemies try to only be deadly in the air.

 

[pichuthedk]

Yes and no it's mainly just for lasers I've yet to feel the salt inducing Crouch to Rest for whiffed grab punishes.

 

[David Viran]

I met this one jigs who at first tried to use crouching but I still hit him because I was playing careful and he just stopped being on the ground. He didn't seem like he fully new what to do when I just didn't whiff.

 

[Tobi_Whatever]

I once had a Kirby that tried to crouch below all my attacks but the grab still connected so he was pretty much screwed.

 

[Shaya]

screw it i'm just going to fast fall up air all the crouchers.

I felt really silly today when I realised how overtly relying on Nair for landing / spacing was killing me.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

I couldn't land that uair either.

 

[Tobi_Whatever]

screw it i'm just going to fast fall up air all the crouchers.

I felt really silly today when I realised how overtly relying on Nair for landing / spacing was killing me.

Funniest part is we get much more out of a landing uAir than a landing nAir. Every uAir after ~40% can be a death sentence to our enemies. Downside is that uAir is quite a bit less safe.

 

[pichuthedk]

Funniest part is we get much more out of a landing uAir than a landing nAir. Every uAir after ~40% can be a death sentence to our enemies. Downside is that uAir is quite a bit less safe.

What about falling up air to panic up tilt what could possibly go wrong ? XD

Well to be honest the reason the up tilts ever hit is because the person was to dumb Or hungry for the punish ; p.

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Shiek also makes me throw my controller. In fact, I think you'd be better off finding a list of stupid bull**** that doesn't make me want to throw **** across the room.

 

[David Viran]

Shiek also makes me throw my controller. In fact, I think you'd be better off finding a list of stupid bull**** that doesn't make me want to throw **** across the room.

Up b oos is God.

 

[pichuthedk]

Funny I lost to a shiek in pools Last week caused me to not make bracket sigh

 

[Shaya]

Zair and nair outspacing sheik in the air reliably is pretty good. Our Bair will trade or win against fair.
Down-b bouncing fish for RESULTS.
Jab OOS the goat.

 

[CatStache]

Funny I lost to a shiek in pools Last week caused me to not make bracket sigh

Shiek also makes me throw my controller. In fact, I think you'd be better off finding a list of stupid bull**** that doesn't make me want to throw **** across the room.

Use the force Luke, use the force!

 

[Budget Player Cadet_]

Use the force Luke, use the force!

NickRiddle is a god among men. You must be his prophet. (PBUY)

Greatest thing ever. Optimal punish on whiffed dashgrabs... turnaround dsmash?

 

[Shaya]

I feel as if you won't be getting that grab OoS on sheik's ftilt at mild rage/immediate jabbing. But maybe.

 

[CatStache]

I don't know what to do about the Link match up. I get zoned so hard by projectiles and I can't get up in his face because of the boomerang. As far I can see I have no approach and my one of my 2 range options (laser) is mostly useless because of his shield. If I some how by some miracle get him in the air I can't follow up with up b or Up air otherwise I get hit by his down air. Don't even get me started on his Up smash.

 

[Shaya]

Down-b. You'll see how applicable it is with practice.

 

[Tobi_Whatever]

I don't know what to do about the Link match up. I get zoned so hard by projectiles and I can't get up in his face because of the boomerang. As far I can see I have no approach and my one of my 2 range options (laser) is mostly useless because of his shield. If I some how by some miracle get him in the air I can't follow up with up b or Up air otherwise I get hit by his down air. Don't even get me started on his Up smash.

dSpecial and SH nAir FF is all you ever need against his projectiles. If he starts to do the roll > dSmash spam just dSmash or spot dodge > uTilt.

 

[extremechiton]

Zair will go through certain projectiles
Down b is your friend
Walk up powershield
Perhaps a dair sometimes?

 

[CatStache]

Down-b. You'll see how applicable it is with practice.

His Up-smash > My Down-b.