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I actually don't think the C-stick glitch is a problem. You just need to quickly flick the C-stick while carrying your momentum to keep moving. And the stutter step is so useful I think you should keep the C-stick on Smashes. Also, I find that the dsmash is a lot more useful with the C-stick and if you can make sure it hits, it racks up a ton of damage.
The only real issue I've had with Smash stick aerials is sometimes accidentally getting a JC USmash when I input the Uair before I leave the ground, which can also be an issue when performing a Uair with the A button. None of the other aerials are ever really an issue. Tilt stick not only works around this, but also lets you perform Nairs while moving freely, which matters more now that Ganon's has been buffed. (The downside is that you get stuck in U-tilt if you wind up hitting the stick before you jump) I generally find that Smash stick tends to be easier to perform with, but Tilt stick probably lets you do more overall given enough practice.
I think you're talking about ledge cancelled wizkick.
Seems super situational. But... is valuable
Yeah I still can't believe I pulled off the Utilt cancel on inhale mid battle lol.
this is was easier to perform in brawl, is possible do it with a full jump in ssb4, but it wont hit most characters. Maybe if they are jumping or big.
You can't recover at all after using it as an edgeguard, unless you start your edgeguard from a platform near the ledge, which makes it unpractical.
Assuming that they attempt to get up immediately , you have to grab the ledge RIGHT after they do so that they are forced off before they can get up, then you can ledgehop Bair them guaranteed. Hardest part is ledgedropping at the right time, especially if they use recovery mixups.
Turnaround F-smash is never a bad gamble if you have any reason to believe that they might not be afraid to roll inwards. Keeping in mind you can remind them that a semi-charged F-smash can kill people at like 60%.
Apart from guessing?
It's not a true combo, as the opponent can always input a roll, jump or attack right away. But the mere fact that it's there, and limits there options is beneficial. You should still manage to get some against even good players, and when it hits, it's devastatingly powerful. Use it in ways to scare your opponent into forcing them to get up onto the ledge, just so you can whiff them away with a FTilt.
Some techs are punishable. All standard tech is punishable by jab and sometimes ftilt and grab. There are even techs where the opponent will roll behind you which are punishable, but this depends on the character. Robin can be punished by a ftilt if he/she tries rolling behind you with a tech.
On pure reaction, I'm not able to punish ppl with Jab if they neutral tech, atm.
It does the job, but I prefer uair or reverse tipman uair. They both do the job just as efficiently, if not better.
Always good. 88 isn't a difficult percent to get to, though I imagine F smash killing far earlier.
Ray_Kalm
has stated that he believes all three SideB variants are viable. My question is, when are good situations to use Flame Wave? With Flame Wave, you lose some offensive utility of Flame Choke because of the reduced range, and the move in my view strictly becomes almost strictly a retreating punish. Now, it gets more consistent reward than Flame Choke, which is great, and it can even kill by itself.
Flame wave would be great if it had the choke's range, it's just so slow & Dorf barely goes when using it.Okay so, random question.
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Now you can correct me if I misunderstood you, but I'm not sure if there's specific matchups where the more consistent defensive reward of Flame Wave is valuable. I don't think this move is as good if Ganon needs to approach, especially past projectiles or against extremely speedy characters.
Punishing tech rolls might be hard read territory, but Ganon is a hard read character. If you know they always roll behind you, charging an Fsmash in that direction can be an early kill. I usually jump straight up when I expect a tech, because it puts you out of getup attack range and sets up for a wizard foot/down-air punish (if they choose not to get up, down-air still hits for massive damage, but wizard foot won't kill if they're lying down). If I see them roll behind rather than risk getup attack, I'll go for a pivot Fsmash read. It's usually the correct read, too, just a matter of timing the release.
Wait, so you can just spam Gerudo into him and get him most of the time?
Yeah, the only way for him to avoid a Dtilt after Gerudo is to Tech towards you,, but even then it hits him on occasion.
True. If Mac DI away first then tech towards it will still hit him. His tech roll is baaaaad.
Mind you, rock paper scissors is the worlds most complex game.
