The Winning Steak Cinemas: Video Archive & Criticism Thread Updated

[sonictailslink]

I also can do some recording as well. You may have to give me a few days for me to upload any videos because of school. Also I found out it's much faster to upload videos at school compare to uploading videos at home. With video editing, I can probably help out as well

 

[da K.I.D.]

Just don't make KID do anything technical. Dude couldn't even upload images. Lord help him when it comes to editing video.

THis is true.

I am the mastermind behind the scenes, I come up with the amazing plans and such, than send you all out to do my bidding.

 

[Joemama8]

for the record, I didnt think the thing was bad, just not amazing. Also, the creator of the combo vids having more clips that anyone else is nothing new. People do it all the ****ing time. But if we intend to put another vid together, it can't just be a collection of 08 combos and "almost cool" combos. **** has to HAPPEN ppl. Oh well im off to School is in Session 3. Wish me luck!

 

[B.A.M.]

yeah lets start compiling greatness! I would love to have a solid community combo video.

@Espy I saw that you were using some hyphen smashes in your MK matches in HOBO .....come my brother join me in using usmash.

Dacus is tyte cuz it seriously owns ppl trying to do spacing bs and aggro. its a tyte punisher. our dacus is a faux nado. true story.

 

[Espy Rose]

I use it as a punisher if they recklessly make an attempt to grab a hold of the ledge, AND are above the level.
It puts them in a bad position for usmash to connect.

The problem is that if they call it (which they shouldn't, since Sonic has about a jillion options for edgeguarding), they can knock you off of the level.
And if they're named Meta Knight, then we have a tiny problem.

 

[da K.I.D.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM7J3ASYPBk&feature=sub

the only doubles match that happened the entire tournament.

 

[B.A.M.]

very true Espy. For edgeguarding just standing there and either fsmash, ftilt, or dtilting on reaction works for me. Dsmash is good too. usmash is very good sh height, it seriously wrecks everything in that zone. it just comes down to proper spacing. I love it though because it tells Metas who love to nado at that height or dair camp ff stupid aerials, no you cant do that. Then from there mix ups be come easier.

Yeah that MK edgeguard is too good, although we definitely get it easier than most provided we recover high, use footstools, space bair,etc. It always comes down to proper springing with him. lol stupid meta.

 

[WedginatorX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPA8TB87Ycc
In this video: KIDgoggles gets footstooled into a klaptrap while wedge laughs hysterically.

 

[da K.I.D.]

I didnt get footstooled, he just grabbed the ledge I was going for.

 

[Tesh]

Offline 1000$ money match, critique please. What did I do wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG13whf310s

 

[TommyGreenShirt]

3. I gave you about 12+ of cool stuff. the least you could have done was use my best clip. like where i truepivot f smashed yoshi right at the edge of his grab range


seperate note. Since me and him see so eye-to-eye on so many things, I think me and BAM should make a combo vid together.

What's a truepivot?

 

[WedginatorX]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ore9fCmuIbk
Sadly it's a wifi match, but a perfect connection cuz we're from the same state.
I barely lag with any tristate smash players <3 i love it
Hate cross-country connections >_>

 

[Arikie]

posting videos

friendlies


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuVLflLZ5JU arikie(sonic) vs fang(wolf)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk8JSainPRM arikie(sonic) vs dblade(snake)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1TDf5IWh9I arikie(sonic) vs dblade(marth)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhfKO8JHK8o arikie(sonic) vs nubsta(ike)


tournament,
from my latest tournament
http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=10366

I only have this one set, if more turn up i'll post them

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMtrnQlNmMY arikie(sonic) vs zex(snake) match 2 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xlkk6p7kBs arikie(sonic) vs zex(snake) match 3 of 3

third match i messed up bad. it was kinda embarrassing but at the same time i did go to last stock to number 1 on the PR in tourney...

 

[WedginatorX]

good **** ari. i see you're implementing that SHUair OoS that we talked about a little while back now. you did a number on that ike and that wolf

 

[Arikie]

good **** ari. i see you're implementing that SHUair OoS that we talked about a little while back now. you did a number on that ike and that wolf

ya, I'm trying to abuse the range it has to the sides and the fact that if it misses i can just move away and have like no lag lol.

 

[MdrnDayMercutio]

Guys I just watched that Wedge Combo video. Man what a nice guy, he even put a little of other people in. Really cool.

 

[NH Cody]

Alright enough hating on wedge from random people who I've never even seen use Sonic.

 

[MdrnDayMercutio]

What?! I'm mad old school sonic. I'm sure Kid could vouch for me.

 

[Arikie]

The fact that people are still goin on about the community video is a lol.

instead how about watch my vids =P

Offline 1000$ money match, critique please. What did I do wrong?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG13whf310s

stop spotdoding so much, ur using fsmash too much and at low percents. other then that I think you just got kinda outplayed, which sucks cause the MU is in you're favor =/

 

[NH Cody]

What?! I'm mad old school sonic. I'm sure Kid could vouch for me.

That probably means you don't know how to ASC cancel xP

 

[MdrnDayMercutio]

...

Really? That's old as dirt.

 

[Tesh]

MDM is a legit old school ancient sonic. His sonic turned gray and retired. But the prophecy says he will one day drink the elixir of steak and return to us.

 

[Kinzer]

You mean this?

 

[MdrnDayMercutio]

Speed and Shado alright got me back into unrusting my Sonic after Apex. Still rusty as hell, but ****... he's so fun.

 

[WedginatorX]

1. Mdm trippin mad hard over combo video.
2. Erryone trippin mad hard over combo video
3. Mdm pls play almo's sonic and tell him it's bad. He thinks he has the best sonic in your NE region over dere. Lolmarthmains
4. Watching speed time people out motivated you to pick sonic back up?

 

[~TBS~]

What?! I'm mad old school sonic. I'm sure Kid could vouch for me.

I can vouch for him. This guy is mad cool to hang out with, and he really wants to use Sonic again. He gonna hold it down.

 

[da K.I.D.]

Guys I just watched that Wedge Combo video. Man what a nice guy, he even put a little of other people in. Really cool.

LOL! I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, THAT MAKES IT 3X AMAZING!
TOO GOOD

What?! I'm mad old school sonic. I'm sure Kid could vouch for me.

this.

4. Watching speed time people out motivated you to pick sonic back up?

graped

 

[MdrnDayMercutio]

Watching Speed time people out did nothing. ACTUALLY PLAYING SPEED IN FRIENDLIES on the other hand did indeed encourage me to pick him back up. Same with Shado.

I don't force Sonics to go to time. Seeing some of the new school tricks and the oldies but goodies just got me mad nostaligic. Watching Shado play Dazwa was great. Playing Speed and TKO in doubles was so fun. And they were both entertianing, it hyped me back up for the blue blur.

And yeah, Almo, he does think that. Mostly cause Memphischains(yeah, I'm dat old) seems to have quit and I dropped Sonic for Diddy a long time ago. It leaves just him. And Sauce, who I swear plays Sonic solely to time people out. It's... not fun. But I can't prove him wrong cause I hate playing against most Sonics in friendlies. Cause I get bored with the usual style of dealing with a guessing game. **** just makes me lose patience.

Gunna start playing more Sonic though, show NE what Sonic is all about.

(I am a terrible player and lack so many needed skills that I'll actually just be a scrub Sonic but whatever. More Sonic more fun.)

 

[ShadoFiend]

Scourge is where it's at!! Good to have you back mah dude. Don't let my Sonic get you back into the game lolz. I'm teh garbage. I'll let you know when a decent sonic comes around. bwehehe

 

[Trent]

Matches up from SLAST:
Holms Set:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1T3_LoWhOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3NQJLbUraw
Umm, he removed the video for some reason?

Mr. Doom Friendly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXMXo0Q2EiE

These were my worst played matches. Rip me to shreds and be brutal.

 

[Arikie]

Matches up from SLAST:
Holms Set:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1T3_LoWhOw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3NQJLbUraw
Umm, he removed the video for some reason?

Mr. Doom Friendly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXMXo0Q2EiE

These were my worst played matches. Rip me to shreds and be brutal.

1st match vs that wolf
0:40 maybe you would have better followups from uthrow, you would have to bait his shine maybe.
1:21 spring > wolf's side B. but his upB will go through it. nice tech
2:11 coulda stopped him with spring.
instead of rolling away try crossing him up with a short hop uair out of shield
if theyre at super high percent but not high enough to kill with uthrow, use fthrow or bthrow maybe.
4:40 nice mindgame kill =D
5:03 uthrow to fsmash? maybe regrab or fair. after you condition someone to air dodge towards you then you can fsmash them.
you died right after using homing attack.... hmm

btw another thing you can do to wolfs illusion, on reaction you can sweet spot dair it near the boundary for a KO and still make it back. you gotta position you're self hhigh enough to still make it back, and inbetween wolf and where he would sweetspot approximatly, as soon as he starts just hit down C. then recover to the stage.

vs zss

0:16, if they block ur spindash dont do aerials just jump and keep going to the other side of the stage.
0:29 shorthop uair outta shield, dont roll.
0:34 double spot dodge, so intense, what does it mean? i guess you did dodge her utilt, but still...and then spring? turnaround grab, ftilt, shorthup uair...
1:35 jabs like that also frustrate me, nice getting around it.
1:49 sideB away from stage, jump cancel, bair dat samus.
1:52 mad read? lol.
2:33 WOW
2:57 fsmash... when people trip try to follow their gettup for a grab. fsmash only if they are near the ledge or otherwise are more likely to roll into you. or run and fsmash.
end kill. wow lol.

vs ike
ike actually frustrates me alot, im not very good at the MU but here's what i got.

1:49 i was about to type in spring him but it seems whatever you just did managed to kill him O_o
2:25 wow, terrible DI.
2:36 if he does up B at that hieght you have a tiny amount of time you can shield grab him, i think. i've done it once.
spring > aether.
2:58 HE AIRDODGED TOWARDS YOU CMON GET HIM.
3:01 short hop uair out of shield, tho you did get an fsmash on him from his bad read..
stop getting hit by ikes side B.

 

[da K.I.D.]

Ive never been able to dair wolfs side b, or any of the spacies side bs,now that i think about it.

 

[Arikie]

I've done it in atleast one mm and in a couple friendlies, only to wolf though.

 

[ShadoFiend]

IS it even worth it in the end?

 

[NH Cody]

@ wolf video

Why am I the only one who would use uthrow to utilt at 0% instead if dthrow? xD

dthrow is so random....why do that when you could uthrow to utilt

I don't get it

 

[da K.I.D.]

why up throw up tilt, when you could up throw up air?

up air actually sets up for follow ups.

 

[NH Cody]

They usually airdodge when I uair...

 

[da K.I.D.]

then wait for the up air and grab them again.

the two options cover just about every option the other guy has.

 

[Arikie]

what if they jump and airdodge?

 

[da K.I.D.]

if they jump, you can up air them before the AD comes out.

plus, theyve just used their double jump and committed to a move, which means you can now play with them as you wish.