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The Unhappy Thread

Jasou

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iidr Gimpyfish had a long while of not improving.

Suicide is not the answer. Maybe talking to someone one on one about things would help you with your issues.
 

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I don't own any gamesystems and my laptop is over 7 years old. It can barely run the few games I play on it.

When I was homeless, I actually owned things, had friends, and enjoyed things. I actually have less to my name now than when I was homeless, learned that the people I thought were my friends really aren't, don't enjoy anything anymore, and am generally more depressed than I was whilst homeless.

I'm sure thing's can get better but I don't have the patience or strength anymore. The things that were giving me hope and entertainment have left my life, so why should I even bother anymore? Suicide has been a legitimate consideration.

:phone:
 

Master Xanthan

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I don't own any gamesystems and my laptop is over 7 years old. It can barely run the few games I play on it.

When I was homeless, I actually owned things, had friends, and enjoyed things. I actually have less to my name now than when I was homeless, learned that the people I thought were my friends really aren't, don't enjoy anything anymore, and am generally more depressed than I was whilst homeless.

I'm sure thing's can get better but I don't have the patience or strength anymore. The things that were giving me hope and entertainment have left my life, so why should I even bother anymore? Suicide has been a legitimate consideration.

:phone:
You mentioned not owning any gamesystems, you could try saving up for one. PS3 and Xbox 360 don't cost that much these days (depending on how much memory you want). Or if you like Nintendo games you could get the Wii. Or you could go with a console from an older generation, which you can get used for extremely low prices. Suicide definitely isn't the answer, though. If you don't like gaming anymore, there's got to be something you enjoy or something that helps you relax.
 

rinisan

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I hate weather like this like a huge steamer!!! Can't stand it any more!
 

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Woah woah woah. No talking about hiring escorts or prostitutes here. You guys didn't do anything hugely inappropriate in terms of content, but there is definitely no talk along those lines allowed here of any kind.

Any more talk gets an infraction. Sorry, but that's the rule.
 

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I didn't even get to see his response!

NO FUN.
 

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Woah woah woah. No talking about hiring escorts or prostitutes here. You guys didn't do anything hugely inappropriate in terms of content, but there is definitely no talk along those lines allowed here of any kind.

Any more talk gets an infraction. Sorry, but that's the rule.
But I purposely didn't mention anything about prostitution or sex. If I hire a escort to come with me to my boss's wedding, just so I seem like a well rounded worker, is that still something I'm not allowed to talk about?
 

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Given the context, yeah it's best not to delve into those subjects without clear explanation of the matter (such as the boss's wedding example).
 

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You mentioned not owning any gamesystems, you could try saving up for one. PS3 and Xbox 360 don't cost that much these days (depending on how much memory you want). Or if you like Nintendo games you could get the Wii. Or you could go with a console from an older generation, which you can get used for extremely low prices. Suicide definitely isn't the answer, though. If you don't like gaming anymore, there's got to be something you enjoy or something that helps you relax.
I make an average of $40 on a bi-weekly basis. From this, $27.25 of it is spend on a monthly basis on my phone bill. $10-20 of it is spent on transportation, either from borrowing mom's car/asking for rides, or public transportation.

If I make $80/mo, on average about $50 of it is spent on phone/transportation. That leaves me with $30/mo to work with. It takes months to save up for any significant purchase, and every significant purchase I've made since 2008 has been sold for another significant purchase, or stolen. I'm literally at the point where the only material possessions I own are my clothes, my phone, my gamecube controller, and a pair of $17 in-ear monitors.

My Samsung Galaxy S I bought without service is what I used to pass the time (Until someone at the place I'm doing an intern at decided to raid my backpack when I was helping unload, and deliver material to a construction site). I can't afford music/books, so I had a large collection of music and ebooks on that phone that I used to entertain myself. Before that, though, my days literally consisted of volunteer work, school, then fall asleep at 4PM because I have literally nothing fun/interesting to do.

I'm a very particular person. Very few things are engaging to me, especially nowadays, the more depressed I get.

Also, if you're interested as to why I don't own game systems: A guest broke my PS2. My gamecube/melee/memory card was stolen/Wii's disk drive is broken and my USB HDD I used to launch .ISOs broke, I sold my laptop and Pokemon/Yugioh TCG collections to go to Genesis 2.
 

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People that believe marriage should stay out of the government have been accused of doing so because they are homophobic.

I don't believe the church OR government should touch marriage.

Getting married just because your taxes are easier? That seems ok to you? The only reason for marriage is taxes? Is that what this country has become?

It's now combined taxes vs Homophobes?

This country sucks
 

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I don't really see the point of editing all those posts, if you are just going to let everyone know what the content included anyways. saying "this post was about a guy looking for an escort" is not any different from "I am looking for an escort" lol. but what do i know i'm not a mod, lol.
 

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Maybe it's just because I was raised religious, but marriage has always been, to me, a vow between people that love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together.

Finding out society just views it as a political way of combining taxes kind of kills it for me.

I find it completely pointless
 

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Maybe it's just because I was raised religious, but marriage has always been, to me, a vow between people that love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together.

Finding out society just views it as a political way of combining taxes kind of kills it for me.

I find it completely pointless
If you find someone like this in your life, do you really need a societal label for your relationship with them?
 

PsychoIncarnate

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If you find someone like this in your life, do you really need a societal label for your relationship with them?
I don't know, I've never had anyone close to that in my life. All I have to go by is observations of others and societies view as a whole

I'm confused by a lot of things because I'm not able to experience them, but try and figure out through observation.
 

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So then why can't your society's label be called something else (not "marriage") but include similar or the same benefits?
 

Luigitoilet

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I don't know, I've never had anyone close to that in my life. All I have to go by is observations of others and societies view as a whole

I'm confused by a lot of things because I'm not able to experience them, but try and figure out through observation.
What I'm saying is that the concept that you are talking about still exists, whether or not the term "marriage" does (or any other legal term such as civil union). You don't need a government-sanctioned piece of paper to vow your life to someone you love.
 

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What I'm saying is that the concept that you are talking about still exists, whether or not the term "marriage" does (or any other legal term such as civil union). You don't need a government-sanctioned piece of paper to vow your life to someone you love.
No, but it's a symbol of said vow. I don't think it's much different than giving a promise ring or whatever to your gf/bf. Do you really need a ring to make such a vow? It's just a matter of symbolism and making it more "official" for a lack of better terms. *shrugs*

Either way I don't think it's really a big deal. If two people feel content with a government-sanctioned piece of paper to validate their monogamous vow, then let them. Or maybe the people that don't think a piece of paper validates their vow, but make a promise to each other to stay faithful, then let them as well.

I don't really like the idea of marriage for tax benefits etc, but I do like the promise to stay faithful or whatever it is (be it "marriage" or "civil union" or even a promise ring).
 

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In an unrelated note:

I don't like the idea of a remake of the warriors

I heard it's going to have realistic, non cartoonist gangs.

Why make it a completely realistic gang warfare movie? Why remake it at all?

The outlandish cartoon appearance of the gangs was one of the major aspects of it.
 

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On an even more unrelated note:

My sadness (I'm more willing to call it depression now) is getting worse I think :/.

I figured it was just a phase. A long one. I'm starting to doubt that. Instead of it going away, it's getting worse. During those previous 3 months, despite not wanting to do concerts due to being nervous, I never got tired of playing music, which is what I previously planned on doing in college. I also never got tired of being on the computer. I also never got tired of playing a specific rhythm game (osu!). Those were the three things I ALWAYS relied on for happiness. This all changed after I made that post. I've slowly lost interest in the rhythm game (playing 2-3 (if any) songs a day instead of 30-40). I've also planned to stop using the computer for things that aren't homework after I'm done with my Pokemon hack, something that I've honestly lost all interest in. Now for those two, this should be a good thing if it weren't for the fact that these were things that gave me at least half of my daily happiness previous to these few weeks.

Music is different. Very different. I've been losing interest gradually. Previous to these few weeks, I loved playing music. I wanted to do it for my whole life. I could get behind my marimba, play relaxing chords and a few exercises along with some music for marching band, and I'd always feel better. It was something that I'd resort to doing. It'd calm me down when I was upset, and I didn't need people because I could play the marimba. When I was alone with the marimba, I was happy. However, starting these past few weeks, I've been gradually losing interest in not only the marimba, but the friends I had through music. My instructor (more on this later), who I loved (as a friend obviously) and was awesome as could be... I started to hate him just by his presence. He started to piss me off way more just because he was doing his job. I didn't like him anymore. I was always tired because of the fact that I'd have to spend 30 minutes with him telling me things that I felt I wouldn't ever use again because I was certain that I was dropping music after the school year. I hated playing the marimba at this point. It was a big waste of time to me, and although I had nothing to replace it with, I'd rather do nothing then play that thing ever again. Almost all of the people I met through music that were my friends were people that I started to either feel neutral towards or started to hate. At this point there are three people in my band class that I actually like being around. There used to be 20-30. Over a few weeks. It's really scaring me to lose interest in this many people so suddenly.

The reason why I'm posting this is because I actually realized how dark I was becoming through my instructor Thursday. I wanted to post it right away Thursday, but I didn't. I wanted to talk to someone personally about it, but I didn't see him online Thursday, and he wouldn't be able to verbally communicate with me because I would NOT talk about this in person. Anyways, to the thing with my instructor. Note that this day was on an extreme low side of my depression. I've never felt that bad before.

We were doing something called a "group lesson" in preparation for the Marching Band season. He gathered three vets to the keyboard-percussion section (where I play the marimba), and we all played through our warm ups. The goal was for us to see how different our technique, posture, etc was while playing, and for us to correct each other. I "corrected" the girl to my right once. (It was a joke comment. This girl is also one of the people I still consider my friend in band) That is important later. Besides that though, I pretty much complained to the same girl about how useless this whole experience was. I knew it had purpose, but I was probably dropping band, so why did it matter to me? I hated this guy, too. So I just kept on talking **** about it.

Until after it was over. We were supposed to start moving stuff soon, but it was right after we got done playing, so I was taking a break, thinking about things. Things that were apparently making me look depressed. Whenever I look depressed in front of my instructor, he always asks me if I'm tired. I usually say yes, but today, I was really aggravated so I just said "Yeah right". This changed everything. He asked if I felt like how a person normally feels after having a dream. A dream that is better than my current living state. I could agree to this, so I said "Yeah". He said "if only I could tell you about my life" and I responded with "Why can't you?", and from there, he told me one thing and one thing alone. "I broke up with my fiancee". I literally had a "Oh, I'm sorry" response planned for whatever he said, got through half of it, stopped and was like "Wait, what did you say again?"

This guy just had a child and apparently this happened. I was treating him and his lesson like ****, and he openly tells me this. It shows that he trusts me. What... He decided that today was the day. After that, he told me that if I ever needed to tell him anything, that I could, and that he'd tell me more the next time I saw him. He also said "good job for correcting -the girl that was playing to my right's name-. That's exactly what you need to do". He was complimenting me, being nice to me, and showing signs of trust. I was being a **** to him. It took me that much to realize how much I was truly changing and that I was becoming more depressed than I've ever previously been.

I don't know if the above will change anything with my depression, but I've never felt this horrible about anything. Ever. I've treated someone so badly, and they freely trust me like I'm someone that matters to them. It's so wrong...

Basically, I've realized the following over the past three months of this depression:

- I've lost and am still losing interest in everything that previously made me happy
- I've started to hate or feel neutral towards the people that previously made me happy
- I've had a general gloomy feeling for the past three months, varying from mild to extreme

along with things that weren't talked about in this post but have still occurred to me over the past three months:

- I've been way more hateful and aggressive towards others compared to my previous "never say something mean unless they deserve it" attitude that I spent a while building up
- I've had a tired feeling all the time. I always want to sleep, and my sleeping schedule has been horrible.
- I've gained weight, and I've been wanting to replace my rhythm game and computer time with eating
- I've gained feelings regarding my future, such as not having one due to committing suicide or I'll have a bad one since I'm changing careers all of a sudden, and it's to something that I haven't even decided on yet
- I've started to hate myself way more, especially after the above event, but before that as well. The above event really amplified it, though.
- Most of my thoughts when daydreaming (something I've been doing way more often) or thinking when I'm asleep involve me committing suicide or harming myself or things along those lines.
- I've been generally irritable.
- I've been having random pain all over my body off and on for the past few weeks
- I'm doing way worse in school, test scores dropping nearly 20%. I can't focus in class for anything, and I end up staring at the walls more often than paying attention to teachers (although it doesn't matter at this point in the year. I'm pretty much done with this year).
- I've had no energy at all.

So to end this post, I'd like to say sorry for ranting, but I also have a few questions.

Am I over-exaggerating this? I feel that it could be clinical depression, but at the same time, it could easily be a phase, since I know most teenagers go through depression at some point in their life. I haven't had a specific life changing event trigger any of these emotions (besides hating myself, but even then, it's not really a big event), and I could easily see me over-reacting to all of this, since I've been over-reacting lately as well.

Would talking to a person (my instructor) about this be enough or do I need to seek a therapist? I've never tried venting to someone, and I don't know how much my instructor plans to let me vent. I don't know what he meant by "if you ever need anything". I've also always despised talking to a professional about my minor, useless problems compared to what he's heard from people that are seriously depressed due to traumatic events.

I thought about these things for the past two days, and I haven't come up with anything at all. I don't know what to do with any of this or what to think about it. When I'm posting about it, I feel like I'm over-reacting, but whenever I'm away from the computer, one of my only happy places at this point, this is how I feel. :/. Any thoughts or advice would be amazing.

Really sorry about ranting. I just needed to get that out and I really needed to ask for advice without it being too awkward in one on one conversation. @_@.

 

Luigitoilet

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In an unrelated note:

I don't like the idea of a remake of the warriors

I heard it's going to have realistic, non cartoonist gangs.

Why make it a completely realistic gang warfare movie? Why remake it at all?

The outlandish cartoon appearance of the gangs was one of the major aspects of it.
Good thing you'll always have the original movie.
 

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Dooms, that is a very related note, and I'm glad you shared it with us. The first thing that definitely needs to be said is that there is absolutely no reason for you to be saying that what you are experiencing is an over-reaction and that it would be petty compared to what others have to say. That kind of thinking won't help you at all, and it is obviously something worth attention, if you really do daydream of yourself in this manner. I find that especially important, the themes, motifs, and scenarios that we envision ourselves in daydreams, things that aren't real but we put above the reality we have around us, they say a lot about what is going on in our lives and how we feel deep down. Daydreaming is where our mind runs off too the easiest and as such tends to be the most intimate, I'd say that tell us a lot more than our dreams, at least it tells us things much easier.

Definitely talk to your instructor first, as you noted, he trusts and cares about you, and said if you needed anything to go to him. As a mentor, and a human being in general, it is unlikely he just kind of said that and hoped you wouldn't take it seriously. If he feels therapy is a good idea, he'll suggest it. I've never had therapy, but I know it helps people a lot, and that therapists know that nothing in the mind that is causing problems with people is not insignificant. You aren't over-reacting, there are experiences in your life that is causing you to feel this way, and it isn't asking for your consent (it never really does). Major depressive disorder is a phase, and I'd bet that is what you are experiencing. MDD is of course a mood disorder, and that is how they work, they come and go. That being said, I can pretty much guarantee, not even knowing you, that you will walk out the other end at one point or another, and these things rarely drag on for too long (it only really does in very extreme cases, and while what you describe is genuine, as you said, it could be way worse, so don't worry :D).

I apologize, I haven't read any of your previous posts here which I will do. If you ever want to go in depth on what you are thinking is the source of all of this (assuming you haven't said so before) feel free to try and express that here or message even me, either way I'll try to help out in whatever tiny way I can. Again, you don't really know me, but I do care and I even empathize with some of the symptoms you are suffering (wouldn't say I am depressed though, I don't know, my general mood is neutral.) But yeah, hope you get to feeling better Dooms. ^^
 

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I think that over time, the people we are know but aren't super close with, get distant. A lot of people just don't really understand what it's like. My high school experience was a lot like this. There were too many impersonal relationships and I couldn't open up to any of them. I could never open up to teachers because regardless of how much they said they cared for me, I still saw them as teachers. The professional relationship is a huge put off for me and I think that you are experiencing a lot of that too. Talking with people that I knew wasn't any easier. They never knew what was going on in my head because I suppressed everything. I never let them see me when I was vulnerable, or rather, I couldn't. Eventually it all got to be too much for me one day. I walked into the principal's office one day just out of the blue and told him I was seriously thinking about dropping out. I know it's sounds pathetic, but I needed attention. And I needed it that badly. There's too much to recount, but I hope that my actions show the extent of what I was feeling.

I've had to deal with this off and on for years, so I think I might be able to help you at least a little bit. Some of the times, I'd just try to escape. When I say escape, I mean escape in any way that you possibly can, that means mentally, physically, socially, etc. I'd find a place with absolutely no people and nothing that you do in a normal day in it. Just keep things out of sight and out of mind. This was always a cleansing experience for me. It helped the most when people had too many expectations of me but they weren't close enough to me to notice it. Eventually you will have to deal with things, but often times this can get you out an unstable state.

One last thing. You love music. Certain emotions affect the way that we play music. Sometimes, it hits us at the functional level. It can be devastating, but keep this in mind. Emotions are temporary. Sooner or later, all of this will pass on and playing music will be better than ever.

There's a lot more that I want to say so I'll talk more later. It's 3:15 on my end and I need to go to bed.
 

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Thank you guys so much ;_;. I will definitely talk to my instructor about at least some of this to see if he has the time to help me out.

I try to escape, too. It's why I'm on the computer so often. It usually helps, too! I'm usually happy when I'm on my computer except when discussing things like this. However, it never lasts.

I'll see what my instructor says about a therapist and I'll stop saying that this is an over-reaction as well.

I'll be sure to keep on playing music, as well! Thank you guys a ton! Really! @__@.

 

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It'll get better Joey.

Over time things get distant. There are friends I lost, some I stopped wanting to be around as well.

New people will show up, sometimes you gotta look but people are there.
 

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I know that any "bad day" to a "normal" person isn't close to what depression feels like, but hang in there Joey. The lack of interest thing coupled with a gloomy feeling is particularly something I can relate to. I very much enjoy playing TF2, but sometime a few months back I lost all interest in it (since regained some interest). There have also been times when, even though I love SWF and the DR, I just wouldn't feel like getting on the computer since I thought it was worthless to do so, no one would care if I logged back in, etc.

Looking back, and I mean this is just for me, I was worried about my future and stuff that I couldn't control was weighing me down a lot. I was also doing bad in school and that really made me think I was inadequate. Also since SWF is really one of the major ways I engage socially with people, it totally messed me up when I stopped going to the DR and was forced to connect with new people that I felt didn't know me. I know that if I had someone to talk to and tell this to back then I would have felt so much better. :)

Hang in there.
 

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Thank you guys so much ;_;. I will definitely talk to my instructor about at least some of this to see if he has the time to help me out.

I try to escape, too. It's why I'm on the computer so often. It usually helps, too! I'm usually happy when I'm on my computer except when discussing things like this. However, it never lasts.

I'll see what my instructor says about a therapist and I'll stop saying that this is an over-reaction as well.

I'll be sure to keep on playing music, as well! Thank you guys a ton! Really! @__@.

Something else that might help is seeing if you can establish a new group of friends. Take up a new hobby to meet some new people. This way, when things get bad, you can cycle between social groups. It really helps when your current social environment gets to be stale.
 

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So I think that my smash scene has officially entered the slow process of dying. Two of our three good smashers either left or retired this month. One of them was our TO. The only good one left is the group's *******. This means that any potential smashers will leave.

R.I.P. KC brawl.

I just hope that I can retain the friendships that I've built over time.
 

Dooms

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Air conditioning AND hot water is borked in our entire dorm building
And it is a billion degrees
Bleh

:phone:
D:

Any idea of when it will be fixed? ;_;. Hopefully soon.

So I think that my smash scene has officially entered the slow process of dying. Two of our three good smashers either left or retired this month. One of them was our TO. The only good one left is the group's *******. This means that any potential smashers will leave.

R.I.P. KC brawl.

I just hope that I can retain the friendships that I've built over time.
Can you play with the other people in your state or was this your only option? Not sure what your driving situation is...

My city went through the same thing, actually. We, however, just got a local store going with tournaments, and newer players rushed in to play. If you have a local gaming store, I'd suggest doing that. Never know what you'll get, but anything to help a scene, right? : D.

I'm not particularly talented at anything.

Also Shortie's posts really, really annoy me.
Everyone has a talent. Some just haven't found it.

Cheesy statement, but it's true. From my experience with talking to several people, everyone has that one thing that they can just do naturally. For me it was playing music and solving math problems. You just have to try multiple things, and you'll realize that you have talent.

Also thank you Ryu, Ndayday, and quote. It really means a lot to me ;-;. Thanks for sharing your personal experience, Ndayday. Also, I'll definitely look for new people to talk to and hang out with as well.

 

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Working this job for a month now and today is the first day I've been late. Fortunately last week my boss told me he was impressed with how much my work have improved so my job shouldn't be in danger. That raise I wanted probably is though. Also it seems as if one of my supervisors is out for the day and the other one didn't notice. So not that bad I guess.
 
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