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SnakeFighter64
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Knight Dude
Keeping it going.
Corporate Synergy messed them up. IF they waited like 1 year, they would've been able to use X-Men and Dr.Doom. Cause the next year, MUA3 was able to have everyone and in a cool artstyle too.
Though I don't know if the music and visuals would have had the soul they needed. Mega Man X was pretty fun to use. Though I do feel like they still only dipped their toe into what he could do with his kit. But seeing how many characters got expanded from TvC to MvC3/UMvC3 to MvCI. I think bringing him back and furthering his moveset more would be great.
X-Men has consistently been Marvel's 2nd biggest series aside from Spider-Man since the mid 70's. It took Ike's intentional sandbagging to try and undo that. But even then, Logan, First Class, Deadpool and Days of Future Past were still big movies, all in all. This also effected the Fantastic Four. Because of that guy's BS, The Fantastic Four's comic actually got cancelled in 2015 or so, despite selling better than characters like Ms. Marvel, because they wanted to push for the MCU instead of letting the sales talk. They aren't nothing characters. And mind you, it's not like people were asking ONLY for X-Men to be in MVC, but they were the start of the VS series and a lot people like their movesets as well. So having a major part of MVC's specific legacy be ignored is the problem. Characters like Wolverine, Storm, Magneto and Cyclops are major faces of Marvel. Really MvC's biggest fumble was the lack of Spider-Man characters aside from Spider-Man himself and Venom. And honestly, while I don't think the mutant allegory is perfect (it's really about being an outsider in general, as it was meant to replicate the success of Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four) I know plenty of people be whether they are Black/Hispanic/LGBT that enjoy those characters because they related to them, just because you don't doesn't mean you have to get pissy about it. I also disagree about the artstyle because I'd rather have a comic book game look like an actual comic book, kind of like Ultimate Spider-Man does.
And while people shorthanded the complaints to the X-Men, another MVC Staple, Dr.Doom was also heavily requested and screwed over for the very same reason.
Hell, MVC3's Capcom roster had to fight Corporate BS just to get Storm and Magneto, their biggest female hero and one of their biggest villains aside from Doom and Venom/Green Goblin. And the roster had a balance of Avengers/X-Men. How you feel about MVC2's roster is how most people feel about MVCI, and the former had at the very least had 5 Avengers in it.
Saying you want "All of Marvel" but wanting to sideline their main team because they come from a TEAM Franchise, is showing your bias. so they couldn't even brink him back. If you can understand WHY Pokemon has a bunch of characters in Smash, you should be able to get that putting in like 6 or so X-Men isn't the end of the world. Both are big series, and both have a LOT of characters in it.
I mean, ****, I'd be happy to have Taskmaster (And War Machine) back, and I think Vision and Wasp could be neat additions. But comic-book Taskmaster wasn't being set up by the MCU at that exact moment in time. I had him on a team with Dr.Doom and Magneto when I played MVC3.
Again, the main thing I think we CAN agree on, is the lack Spider-Man characters IS weird, it'd be like if Mario only had him and Luigi in Smash.
You also mentioned something about "doing the basics before doing weird stuff" Like Blackheart and Shuma weren't in Marvel Superheroes back in the day. You know Moon Knight was in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 1? Way before most people knew about him? Is that bad? Or is it now okay because of the retroactive changes of him getting a TV Show? The point of that is it helps people know different characters of that devs want to have fun with a unique choice. I think having MOSTLY iconic characters and like 2 or 3 weirdos is fine.
I didn't want Sentinel in MVC3, but I get WHY they did add it in. And X-23 isn't a nothing character, she had a few major comic series at that point in time. This isn't getting into other characters like Daredevil, Blade or Moon-Knight. All of which could be good choices for MVC.
In general, I feel like you are only looking at it from strictly a numbers perspective.
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Oracle Link
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On that note... is it really fair to say X-Men are just allegories when they've been historically full of actual minorities in comics?
Agreed that trying to criticize real-world discrimination using mutants can be awkward but on the other hand, you have Storm leading the team as early as 1980 or Northstar being the first openly gay character in Marvel. I think a lot of people can relate to X-Men because there's a good chance you can see someone like yourself in one of its many members, even without getting the cool superpowers involved.
Knight Dude
Keeping it going.
Not when you act like a 6 year old about it. No one said you HAVE to dislike MVCI. One of the biggest fighting game Youtubers likes MVCI, Yipes seems to like it too. No one thinks you're evil for that. I like some aspects of MVCI as well(MMX, Spider-Man and Ultron are fun, for example). I think the game overall is genuinely fine, but held back by Corpos. Lot's of good stuff is like that.
That's really it. You don't even have to like the X-Men(Though personally, I like them quite a lot, almost as much as Spider-Man himself). But you keep trying to beat around the bush with it, and downplaying their cultural importance.
They owned slaves called Alpha Primitives. Marry their cousins. And most of them lack Aura. They live on the Moon usually. There's a Fire Guy that looks cool, I think Joe Mad drew him.
Seriously tho, I'd say Black Bolt has a neat gimmick, where even a whisper from him can level a mountain. if you read some Fantastic Four from the Kirby era, you'll get an idea of them. Crystal was also a member of the FF when Sue was pregnant with Franklin She dated Johnny and also Quicksilver at different points in time. She's kind of sorta the Avatar, being able to manipulate Fire, Air, Water and Earth. I think Lightning too.
In MUA 3, he had a DRIPPY AS **** Coat. I have to respect him for that. He also led a Slave revolt. So maybe he's Our Guy TM.
They really saw one fandom joke and ran with it, huh?
I think got the rough list of events. Bear with me.
1. Make new character you want to be "The Peter Parker for X Generation" kind of like Static for Milestone/DC in the 90's.
2. Make her a Mutant, cause the X-Men were basically "What if Spider-Man and the FF were a combined idea?"
3. Company Mandates want to push the Inhumans, so let's make her that instead, no big deal.
4. Inhumans' TV Show flops hard. Uh-Oh....
5. New character is fairly popular, though not lighting comic sales on fire. But enough people know her as an Inhuman.
6. Company Mandates makes Inhuman heroine be a Mutant in the MCU, because Mickey's wallet is bottmonless and bought out Fox.
7. Kill off Inhuman heroine to bring her back like 3 months later, somehow Spider-Man's book has to deal with this mess.
8. Revive her in X-Men comics during their Entho-state era(where they ironically ACT more like the Inhumans typically do)
9. Now she's like 1/2 Mutant 1/2 Inhuman in the comics I think? Somehow Ichigo Kurosaki's Comic book Ethnicity is easier to parse.
10. Her hardcore fans are now worried she'll get mogged by Logan or Ororo or Scott since she's a Mutant and not being surrounded by "C-List Frauds".
11. Market her as the first Muslim X-Men, even though Dust has been around for Decades. Like how they did with Miles being a Non-White Spider-Man, ignoring Miguel, who predated even Ben Reilly.
12. Has her own book anyway, and will probably go solo again if need be, as she's one of the bigger 2010's New Faces.
I have friends who are very big X-Men fans. One of them shared a picture of the covers for the Marvel pride event just the other night and pointed out that 80% of the characters there are mutants
Knight Dude
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Okay, NOW I caught up on the thread. Sorry, it's been a few days. So I'm sure some old stuff got brought back, but I wasn't really paying attention to the dates at the moment.
I think probably the best time they used the Allegory is when Sunspot, who is Afro-Brazilian, was getting bullied and beaten, for being Black, and thus activates his powers in retaliation. His powered up form makes him LITERALLY black(like how Human Torch turns red). So he becomes more powerful by accepting his Blackness and thus his Mutant status by extensions, that's what Claremont went with anyway. As time went on, they drew him less and less like a Black Man, he lost his afro, and his nose got thinner. Storm also had to deal with regular racism from minor stuff like someone thinking her hair is a weave to people being weird about her features in general.
Also, as a side note, I think it's weird how people downplay Storm, I always saw her as basically Marvel's most iconic female hero. Even if she's mostly known for a team, she's who I think of after Peter and Logan.
"I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE GOVERNMENT! I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE GOVERNMENT! 30 ON 30! 30 ON 30!"
Sorta. The original idea was for them to have the relatable teen problems of early Spider-Man, before he evolved more into the "Everyman Superhero" with the family drama of the FF. Claremont leaned more into how it played into Race, allegorically. Other writers went more into the LGBT angle. And others went back into the Puberty/Teen angle. So to say it's a poor allegory is a bit true, but it's also vague, people just associate with the race one more because by the 70's Claremont made them icons.
I think probably the best time they used the Allegory is when Sunspot, who is Afro-Brazilian, was getting bullied and beaten, for being Black, and thus activates his powers in retaliation. His powered up form makes him LITERALLY black(like how Human Torch turns red). So he becomes more powerful by accepting his Blackness and thus his Mutant status by extensions, that's what Claremont went with anyway. As time went on, they drew him less and less like a Black Man, he lost his afro, and his nose got thinner. Storm also had to deal with regular racism from minor stuff like someone thinking her hair is a weave to people being weird about her features in general.
Also, as a side note, I think it's weird how people downplay Storm, I always saw her as basically Marvel's most iconic female hero. Even if she's mostly known for a team, she's who I think of after Peter and Logan.
Hit me up if you are still interested!
First time I'm seeing this, but I greatly dislike it. It not being even like the OG bothers me for some reason.
To quote the Prince of all Saiyans(and the strongest Namekian)
"I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE GOVERNMENT! I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF THE GOVERNMENT! 30 ON 30! 30 ON 30!"
Cutie Gwen
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Not me I suck and after being given the suicide hotline and the "You have so much to live for" crap too many times I want to end it all out of spite
Don't do it, it's not worth it.
Aurane
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Well, the grass might not greener on the other side. Just keep trucking, Gwen. You can do it.
Oracle Link
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I dont know but i always thought its ugly and overused!
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No Gwen, I truly mean It when I say that you are actually someone who matters a lot.
You try your best to improve as a person, you help people not looking for something in return but genuiely to see them improve as people, you do your best to protect the enviroment, have empathy for people such as the victims of the Palestina/Israel conflict. You have a heart and are working your way to become an even greater person.
I get you, I also feel like trash some times and believe that I am nothing but a failure for some people... But then I remember all the friends I've made, my little cousins always wanting to meet with me and see all the stuff I have and specially all the people I've been able to help in my life such as that one family at the exit of my local mall who needed help with something and they thanked me deeply for solving the problem.
Basically what I'm trying to say is... You do matter Gwen. I for one would be sad to see you gone because you are someone I genuiely look up to as an example of progress
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Ok Idk what happened earlier this week/last night that we got a bit deep and sentimental but despite my youth I'd like to give some words of encouragement.
You know that saying "Be yourself!"
Well, yes, sometimes, we do things we should not have done and we're not proud of. I know I did
BUT... we ALL have the free will and the ability to become the best version of yourself you can be.
If you don't think you can do it alone.?
Well it's ok to be afraid of things. NOT to stay afraid.
Being courageous is being afraid but doing it anyway, y'know?
Seek out therapy, loved ones; find people who YOU KNOW will do their best to keep you on the right path.
If you're determined, you'll eventually get it. Just be patient and do your best to stay on track.
Don't end it all; don't give up
And if you feel like you're at the bottom barrel right now and you think you deserve it, just know this
Start creating your happiness
Start anew
And for any fellow Christians here, God hears, just talk to Him
Sorry if I sounded too cliche or anything, just tryna spread some love
You know that saying "Be yourself!"
Well, yes, sometimes, we do things we should not have done and we're not proud of. I know I did
BUT... we ALL have the free will and the ability to become the best version of yourself you can be.
If you don't think you can do it alone.?
Well it's ok to be afraid of things. NOT to stay afraid.
Being courageous is being afraid but doing it anyway, y'know?
Seek out therapy, loved ones; find people who YOU KNOW will do their best to keep you on the right path.
If you're determined, you'll eventually get it. Just be patient and do your best to stay on track.
Don't end it all; don't give up
And if you feel like you're at the bottom barrel right now and you think you deserve it, just know this
Start creating your happiness
Start anew
And for any fellow Christians here, God hears, just talk to Him
Sorry if I sounded too cliche or anything, just tryna spread some love
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Pink Yoshi
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I can't claim I know what everyone's lives are like, but just know I think y'all are great and I like talking to you.
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Yeah, agreed.Ok Idk what happened last night that we got very deep and sentimental but despite my youth I'd like to give some words of encouragement.
You know that saying "Be yourself!"
Well, yes, sometimes, we do things we should not have done and we're not proud of. I know I did
BUT... we ALL have the free will and the ability to become the best version of yourself you can be.
If you don't think you can do it alone.?
Well it's ok to be afraid of things. NOT to stay afraid.
Being courageous is being afraid but doing it anyway, y'know?
Seek out therapy, loved ones; find people who YOU KNOW will do their best to keep you on the right path.
If you're determined, you'll eventually get it. Just be patient and do your best to stay on track.
Don't end it all; don't give up
And if you feel like you're at the bottom barrel right now and you think you deserve it, just know this
Start creating your happiness
Start anew
And for any fellow Christians here, God hears, just talk to Him
Sorry if I sounded too cliche or anything, just tryna spread some love
There's this tendency specially on the USA It seems to see therapy as something only for those who are beyond saving... Which is just such bs, ngl.
Therapy can be quite great if you find the proper psychiatrist or psychologist. I personally have two great ones, they basically see the potential in me as a person, they believe I can become even better just by getting myself to try more, they want me to have a solid career and studies and they also defend me when they know I wasn't the one on the wrong.
More people should put in practice the concept of seeing psychologists as an extra hand with our daily problems, fears and such and not a disgrace honestly.
And yeah, while I doubt most will agree here because not everyone has the same family situation, I do personally feel at peace whenever I am with any of my cousins or my uncles. They all care about me, and even want me to meet with their kids and such to share all the media and collectables I have.
Finally, It is true that sometimes you just gotta keep yourself going for the good stuff to happen. I know It really well, as someone who went through two suicidal attempts and almost left this world... Just so right after those genuiely amazing stuff happened to me.
All in all, I feel self love and therapy are really underrated values.
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They heard the bots in TF2 were distributing CP and put an end to that **** immediately because of legal reasons. That's the only reason Valve gave a damn tbh.
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Woke up to the surprise that Grandpa was watching Space Jam without falling asleep.
This is actually fascinating because he HATES movies as a whole due to spending his entire teen years working on a cinema as the one who rolled the camera (you know, those cameras with a thing you had to roll to keep the movie going). He also usually only watches two things: Blue Bloods and Crime In Paradise.
So yeah, happy he seems to be trying to enjoy other stuff.
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True. They did stick around and find out after doing that for weeks. Though the bots originated a decade ago, so still needs progress.
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It IS that, but yes it's def more than that
Tho IMO no one's beyond saying, I just think there are those that'd be so difficult to actually save that we kinda just give up on em
Well ****, sorry about that
Glad you're still with us chief
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New Pokémon Kanto game with all the later added Kanto Pokémon Evolutions, all the Johto Pokemon and their later added evolutions, the Meltan line, and a bunch of new pokemon to better represent underrepped types, leading to Kanto having a typical modern region Dex. I want this, to happen. Do you?
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Depends on whether there's a new story or if it's yet another remake of the first game.
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2024 election day is national commit persona 3 day. Anyone wanna join me?
Im not joking
Im really not joking
im planning
2024 election day is national commit persona 3 day. Anyone wanna join me?
Im not joking
Im really not joking
im planning
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Why are the Johto mons not in Johto?
SnakeFighter64
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the Johto mons are all over Kanto in Gold/Silver. Makes sense to me they'd still be there
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The route 24 Gatekeeper failed to keep them out, because he was blocking kids from exploring that super dangerous mountain. Now all the invasive species have taken over Kanto.
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Michael the Spikester
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Crappy weather today where I am. Attempted to write more of my next chapter to my Courage the Cowardly Dog/Danny Phantom AU crossover but don't have the motivation...-_-
Might go tonight to the show to see A Quiet Place: Day One as a means of getting out of the house. Off work from my job for four weeks since the family has gone off to Japan for vacation.
Might go tonight to the show to see A Quiet Place: Day One as a means of getting out of the house. Off work from my job for four weeks since the family has gone off to Japan for vacation.
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dezeray112
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I see that there had been some Marvel Vs Capcom talk lately. I'm going to give my thoughts of the X-Men's inclusion.
I will say that the X-Men were always integral to the Marvel Vs Capcom franchise since Children of the Atom in which I do understand why fans were not happy about their omissions 9as "functions") within Infinite is puzzling.
I will say that the X-Men were always integral to the Marvel Vs Capcom franchise since Children of the Atom in which I do understand why fans were not happy about their omissions 9as "functions") within Infinite is puzzling.
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It may not be the spanish localization, but still cool that we are doing progress.
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Life is so tiring.
Government sucks
Baby boomers think they know more then you
Old white men and a select few old black men in office think they can control women
Your votes dont matter because no one is.gonna do their job anyway
Jobs say they are hiring but they actually are just lying and they dont pay you enough to live
*****, Im bout ready to log off
Government sucks
Baby boomers think they know more then you
Old white men and a select few old black men in office think they can control women
Your votes dont matter because no one is.gonna do their job anyway
Jobs say they are hiring but they actually are just lying and they dont pay you enough to live
*****, Im bout ready to log off
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Headcannon: Since they fit the style of cartoon he would have made, Tex Avery was the in universe creator of Yakko, Wakko, and Dot. And their shelving and the vaulting of all their films is what caused him to quit the studio and go over to MGM.
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welp I missed out on the X-Men discussion again so imma just say this (probably again)
1. X-Men better reclaim their 2nd place throne within Marvel
2. Wish Marvel would do better with both Ms. Marvel and Ghost-Spider. Sure Kamala hasn’t been overshadowed as an Inhumutant, but her only having mini series is hella dumb for such a popular character. Also they better not make Iman write another X-Men vs Inhumans storyline cause those ****ers are mostly dead within the comics. As for Gwen…it’s a damn travesty that they’d deport her to 616 without explaining why so far (not only that, but it adds on to the hypocrisy of the Spider-Editorial).
2.5. “There’s too many Spiders in the 616 for us to have Ben as a Spider” my ass. Peter and Miles are understandable, but then there’s Cindy and Jessica with their yearly mini comic runs, Kaine who is teased to make a return this year, Rek-Rap who still exists due to the Paul era, Shift being a really good Miles clone, Miguel who is still Migueling I guess, Spider-Boy cause Slott gonna Slott, and of course Gwen being moved to the 616 instead of staying in the beautiful Earth 65…Marvel yall may as well just let Ben become Scarlet Spider again or something
3. Earth 616 ****ing sucks
1. X-Men better reclaim their 2nd place throne within Marvel
2. Wish Marvel would do better with both Ms. Marvel and Ghost-Spider. Sure Kamala hasn’t been overshadowed as an Inhumutant, but her only having mini series is hella dumb for such a popular character. Also they better not make Iman write another X-Men vs Inhumans storyline cause those ****ers are mostly dead within the comics. As for Gwen…it’s a damn travesty that they’d deport her to 616 without explaining why so far (not only that, but it adds on to the hypocrisy of the Spider-Editorial).
2.5. “There’s too many Spiders in the 616 for us to have Ben as a Spider” my ass. Peter and Miles are understandable, but then there’s Cindy and Jessica with their yearly mini comic runs, Kaine who is teased to make a return this year, Rek-Rap who still exists due to the Paul era, Shift being a really good Miles clone, Miguel who is still Migueling I guess, Spider-Boy cause Slott gonna Slott, and of course Gwen being moved to the 616 instead of staying in the beautiful Earth 65…Marvel yall may as well just let Ben become Scarlet Spider again or something
3. Earth 616 ****ing sucks
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Reminder, there is one month left before the Xbox 360 online store shuts down. Some reminders:
1. Anything that can be played on newer consoles may still be available post shutdown. There are exceptions however (for example, if you want to play the DLC for The Maw, you must grab it before July 29).
2. On July 16 there will be a final batch of discounts that will run until the store closes. These publishers put most of their non back comp stuff on sale the last two times so keep an eye out:
3. You can redownload your purchases post shutdown. Any backwards compatible games purchased in the modern store will also show up on the 360.
1. Anything that can be played on newer consoles may still be available post shutdown. There are exceptions however (for example, if you want to play the DLC for The Maw, you must grab it before July 29).
2. On July 16 there will be a final batch of discounts that will run until the store closes. These publishers put most of their non back comp stuff on sale the last two times so keep an eye out:
Atari
Bethesda
Bigben Interactive
bitComposer Entertainment
Capcom
City Interactive/CI Games
Deep Silver
EA
Focus Home Interactive
Kalypso Media
Kasedo Games
Konami
Square Enix
Team17
THQ Nordic
Ubisoft
Warner Bros.
Bethesda
Bigben Interactive
bitComposer Entertainment
Capcom
City Interactive/CI Games
Deep Silver
EA
Focus Home Interactive
Kalypso Media
Kasedo Games
Konami
Square Enix
Team17
THQ Nordic
Ubisoft
Warner Bros.
3. You can redownload your purchases post shutdown. Any backwards compatible games purchased in the modern store will also show up on the 360.
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This story is insane:
The Nintendo live Tokyo event that got cancelled back in January this year was due to 39 BOMB threats—-
— 🅶🅸🅶🅸➡️ AWA AA:1133 (@Kamaniki) June 28, 2024
caused by this 27 year old guy
That..
Was frustrated by the amount of times he lost in Splatoon 3
🧍♀️”I’ll make you regret for making a shitty game Nintendo” https://t.co/yP9CYbSK7X
