The Old Diddy Social/General/Q&A Thread

[ChocoNaner]

Camp, camp like a fgt :I

And mfk your way to victory I:

MFK all dai wai ichu:

 

[vato_break]

choco come over

 

[Mr. game and watch]

just run away

This is how you win at brawl.

 

[Emuwins]

When recovering offstage, what is the best way to get on stage against a Marth player that likes to try to edgeguard? Also, when I try to use diddy's barrel rockets after a diddy hump it does diddy's kick instead of up-b, some of the time. Why would that happen?

 

[Zinoto]

When recovering offstage, what is the best way to get on stage against a Marth player that likes to try to edgeguard? Also, when I try to use diddy's barrel rockets after a diddy hump it does diddy's kick instead of up-b, some of the time. Why would that happen?

Honestly there's no one right way. This is one of the reasons why Marth doesn't do terribly in this matchup. The option to prevent yourself from getting gimped is to take the high option, but they're usually waiting for you to do this so they can juggle you. You MUST do mix ups to get back to the stage or else you'll be juggled/hit back off stage all game. If you have a banana with you, throw it to clear a path. Use b-reversals, monkey flips, and everything else you can think of to fool him into letting you back on stage. When Marth is good at keeping you up there the match up feels one sided. Keep yourself covered in bananas so that you reduce the times you are actually in this position by as many times as possible. For the mfk thing, you're probably trying to up b before the monkey flip animation has ended. Wait a tad longer to use it and you should be fine.

 

[DiSQO_BuNNY]

^^^^ yes.
Also it should be known that if you do the diddy hump and it connects to the opponent, YOU WILL NOT HAVE BARRELS AFTERWARD. So don't superman your way offstage after it.

 

[-Googs]

if you press jump instead of attack to release you have barrels another jump and another side b before you land.

 

[Geoberos]

Or you could also Diddy Hump Release (footstool optional afterwards) and still have the ability to rocket barrel. Having your double jump is more preferred though for the gimp.

 

[-Googs]

I almost never attack release anymore, jumping is just way more effective I find. Jump release>Reverse Peanut gun>Jump>Side+B again is a great mix up on tall characters.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

My Diddy is the best.
I Play campier than I do with Yoshi.
I run around with one nanner, air dodge, roll, spot dodge, edge.

And when they mess up, nanner>DA>grab nanner>nanner(if possible)>run away again.

 

[Kantrip]

That's how you do it.

Punish attacks on your shield or your opponent's landings or anything else that can be punished with banana>fthrow and then run back grab your banana again and reset. Then when your opponent is in kill percent switch the fthrow out for a dsmash.

 

[hichez50]

My Diddy is the best.
I Play campier than I do with Yoshi.
I run around with one nanner, air dodge, roll, spot dodge, edge.

And when they mess up, nanner>DA>grab nanner>nanner(if possible)>run away again.

What a bad strategy that should never work.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

It doesn't. But it still does.

 

[tibs7]

came 3rd in tourny today,so bad
. got planked hard in both my losses. gnw and mk. i also go gimped whenever i lost. sigh at diddy's recovery...

 

[GDX]

yea diddy's recovery will troll you every now and then

gotta DI and recover high bro. and abuse the kung fu kick priority in the right situations

 

[DRDN]

And get the rising up B

 

[vato_break]

how bad is game and watch for diddy? is it an even match up or worse?

 

[-Googs]

I really dislike that matchup. Use a lot of fair though, uhh its in our advantage cause he dies pretty early and his trip animation is really long, im very bad at it though

 

[SaveMeJebus]

came 3rd in tourny today,so bad
. got planked hard in both my losses. gnw and mk. i also go gimped whenever i lost. sigh at diddy's recovery...

How could you lose to G&W? That MU is like +3 for us

 

[GDX]

yea its our favor. unless, you decide to go in and be more aggro than the GW

in that case, you're probably about to get styled on

 

[SaveMeJebus]

yea its our favor. unless, you decide to go in and be more aggro than the GW

in that case, you're probably about to get styled on

That could be said about any match up that isn't being played correctly, though

 

[Zinoto]

how bad is game and watch for diddy? is it an even match up or worse?

So long as your shield isn't ridiculously low, G&W has like no safe moves on our shield. This MU is basically bait and punish. Make him do an aerial and punish it with a banana. There's no reason why you should run at him without a banana. I'd say the MU is like +1/+2 for us because there's such a big difference between top G&W's and those who are just good with G&W. Unless that G&W is a tryhard G&W, using every trick in his 2D book to make you do something stupid, just bait and punish.

 

[ChocoNaner]

Thank you zinoto for being informative unlike jebus who feels the need to post the stupidest things possible even though he loses to not-even-pocket loocases :I

Jeez ichu:

 

[vato_break]

Choconaner lost to a gnw whom ive never lost with diddy.



choco has used diddy since release :I

 

[GDX]

nah theres quite a few matchups where you can be the aggro one and do well

being campy is just easier overall

 

[ChocoNaner]

Choconaner lost to a gnw whom ive never lost with diddy.



choco has used diddy since release :I

You lost to my merio tho :I

smd ichu:

 

[vato_break]

also sails with that 3rd/10th place today

 

[Player-1]

GaW IMO is +1 because of his kill power and like a good read at 80 is the stock and I think he's decent at poking diddy depending on the stage, so he can keep the lead and so 1 good read can be the game and with CP stages it can be the set... But I'm not too experienced with the MU. I think with only neutrals its +2, but +1 with CPs.

Guaranteed 3rd right now, got kicked out of the venue and going to play after ihop against kismet. Reflex beat me again but was a lot closer than last time. Game 1 was even til I sded at 30 and was still last hit. I got dis tho

 

[ChocoNaner]

Stop losing to :I

noob ichu:

 

[tibs7]

yeah i was kinda aggro, i was easily the better player. good reads to comeback but then i woiuld just play stupid and die early/kill myself. was embarressing.
with gnw's bair its before the last hit of the turtle that it can be punished correct? i am so rusty will get better though.

and then with mk i sd'ed in like every game, he's a good player but its not like its hard to gimp diddy with mk. so much salt

 

[GDX]

whens the next hype GA tourney? aside from BBC in like april

 

[Player-1]

Well Im hosting a tournament on the 18th

 

[Mr. game and watch]

He said Hype...

 

[Player-3]

Its pretty hype

 

[Mr. game and watch]

Sounds ghetto

 

[Zinoto]

GaW IMO is +1 because of his kill power and like a good read at 80 is the stock and I think he's decent at poking diddy depending on the stage, so he can keep the lead and so 1 good read can be the game and with CP stages it can be the set... But I'm not too experienced with the MU. I think with only neutrals its +2, but +1 with CPs.

Guaranteed 3rd right now, got kicked out of the venue and going to play after ihop against kismet. Reflex beat me again but was a lot closer than last time. Game 1 was even til I sded at 30 and was still last hit. I got dis tho

I agree, +2 is kinda pushing it. Not letting your shield get too low stops the pokes, but that turtle can do it so well sometimes. Nice job getting 3rd, you'll get Reflex next time ^_^.

Sounds ghetto

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[vato_break]

i fell off Socal PR sorry guys :/

 

[Player-3]

just spike #10 off the left side and get your spot back

 

[SaveMeJebus]

nah theres quite a few matchups where you can be the aggro one and do well

being campy is just easier overall

I meant playing the match up wrong

Example: The DDD/Wario match up is in DDD's favor unless he decides to not chain grab or grab release

The match up is +3 even when you take CPs into account. You could destroy him with one banana and the match up only gets worse with two. He has no way of forcing an approach and Diddy can live for a really long time if he doesn't get killed early by a smash attack or a 9.

 

[GDX]

camping aggro is different from not using a move entirely or guaranteed kill setups bro

diddy/GW is definitely not +3, especially since all of his smashes will be relatively fresh since he has to poke you out just to get in. One read at like 80-90 and diddy is dead. He can bucket break and live alot of diddy's kill moves as long as a heavy character could as well.