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Sorry, NinjaLink, I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be looking for in this particular video. I see that the banana striking your opponent right after you D-air spiked him may have altered his trajectory, but you're probably going to have to explain why this is useful to me. =) I ain't hatin', I just don't get it, is all.
Okay. You're most certainly correct that it changed the way he fell. Seeing that we all at least play a lot of Diddy Kong, I'm sure you guys have had the experience where you connect with a KO move that you think would have killed someone if it weren't for your **** banana falling on them from the air right after you hit them to decrease their knock-back. It's kind of like when someone knocks you off the stage, only to have the body of another character "break" your fall and keep you from dying - it also slightly alters the direction you travel in. I'm just not sure of how you would be able to consistently manipulate this fact to your advantage is all.
What exactly is causing you to not collide with the stage and just hug the contours of it instead? It seems like of like Wolf's Illusion hugging the jagged edges of Yoshi's Island. And are you saying that this works for not getting gimped off-stage as well?
The reason it hugs the walls is because im in the barrel state. When ur hit in the barrel state, diddy flies off really weird. U can use this to edgeguard if u kno how to use it properly as well.
I have been informing ppl about things u can do with peanut gun cancel for the longest. And I already knew about that ungimpable tech that you have no name for. Me and my friends call it "Momentum DI" Any ways it doesnt knock you into the wall because certain moves in this game such as Diddy's Up-B have momentum to it (in melee falcos shine not only hit u up but was one of the only moves that had momentum to it. Momentum is DIFFERENT than DI, and there are more moves in brawl with momentum than melee. Diddys dash attack also has momentum to it as well as a lot of other characters with certain moves, ill post up a new discussion explaining momentum in more detailed as soon as i get off my lazy azz lolz.) Its hard to explain but you can actually add DI with this that make it so you can be edge guarded from under Battlefield and still make it back onto the stage (this works best on FD and Yoshi story, just another reason y i say yoshi story is not a bad stage for Diddy, along MANY MORE reasons). We discovered this in June when playing gay MK's that like to stage shuttle loop spike. Any ways I have been telling ppl that Diddys barrels are extremely good and versatile with a lot of different uses. Now im just trying to figure out how to make the barrells fly off on my own, like without getting hit (solid walls are the only thing I can think of, any suggestions??) Then it will be beastly.
Actually what ur saying is true but isnt fully understood. When ur hit in the barrel state u CANT DI when hit sorry to say. Ur forced into the original trajectory u were original was gonna go. Not sure what u mean by in melee falcos shine when in melee u can smash DI which way u were hit. The reason he doesnt hit the wall is because hes in a weird state while being hit while charging the barrels. Theres no other move that i seen that makes ur character look different while gettin hit because u was using the move.I have been informing people about the peanut gun cancel usage for the longest. And I already knew about that ungimpable tech that you have no name for. Me and my friends call it "Momentum DI" Any ways it doesnt knock you into the wall because certain moves in this game such as Diddy's Up-B have momentum to it (in melee falcos shine was one of the only moves that had momentum to it. Momentum is DIFFERENT than DI, and there are more moves in brawl with momentum than melee. Diddys dash attack also has momentum to it as well as a lot of other characters with certain moves, ill post up a new discussion explaining momentum in more detailed as soon as i get off my lazy azz lolz.) Its hard to explain but you can actually add DI with this that make it so you can be edge guarded from under Battlefield and still make it back onto the stage (this works best on FD and Yoshi story, just another reason y i say yoshi story is not a bad stage for Diddy, along MANY MORE reasons). We discovered this in June when playing gay MK's that like to stage shuttle loop spike. Any ways I have been telling ppl that Diddys barrels are extremely good and versatile with a lot of different uses. Now im just trying to figure out how to make the barrells fly off on my own, like without getting hit (solid walls are the only thing I can think of, any suggestions??) Then it will be beastly.
Any ways the banana spike trajectory thing and B-boosting are both new discoveries to me. I'm gonna play around with them when I can. Thanks again Ninjalink for the great finds, and can we officially name the ungimpable tech Momentum DI, or barrel momentum
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I knew that you were the one first showing us applications of peanut gun cancelling in your written articleI have been informing ppl about things u can do with peanut gun cancel for the longest. And I already knew about that ungimpable tech that you have no name for. Me and my friends call it "Momentum DI" Any ways it doesnt knock you into the wall because certain moves in this game such as Diddy's Up-B have momentum to it (in melee falcos shine not only hit u up but was one of the only moves that had momentum to it. Momentum is DIFFERENT than DI, and there are more moves in brawl with momentum than melee. Diddys dash attack also has momentum to it as well as a lot of other characters with certain moves, ill post up a new discussion explaining momentum in more detailed as soon as i get off my lazy azz lolz.) Its hard to explain but you can actually add DI with this that make it so you can be edge guarded from under Battlefield and still make it back onto the stage (this works best on FD and Yoshi story, just another reason y i say yoshi story is not a bad stage for Diddy, along MANY MORE reasons). We discovered this in June when playing gay MK's that like to stage shuttle loop spike. Any ways I have been telling ppl that Diddys barrels are extremely good and versatile with a lot of different uses. Now im just trying to figure out how to make the barrells fly off on my own, like without getting hit (solid walls are the only thing I can think of, any suggestions??) Then it will be beastly.
Any ways the banana spike trajectory thing and B-boosting are both new discoveries to me. I'm gonna play around with them when I can. Is it ok if I use ur peanut gun cancel vid and your last un-namable vid for my ADS?? Thanks again Ninjalink for the great finds, and can we officially name the ungimpable tech Momentum DI, or barrel momentum
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U cant DI AT ANY TIME BEFORE OR AFTER u get hit.Yo Ninjalink I gotta agree with you now. I think were both right. You can di with that before your sent flying but you cannot di after the hit. You will just go your normal trajectory but instead of slamming into the wall it will just slide you against all solid walls. Yea i know about the whole slipping on an opponents banana with the barrels (learned it from Gano) but some way some how I hope we can figure out another way to do it with taking no or little damage
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More testing was done yesterday and your right about that. i have also been able to successfully NEVER get gimped on battlefield any more.
I'm pretty sure you can do this. I thought up this way of doing it by myself a while ago and tried it, and it seemed to work, though I could never seem to work it into my play style.
I dunno. It all depends on your play style I suppose.
pick pokemon stadium and pictochat
Listen to NinjaLink, not me lol.
the fact that PS1 is the same length as FD........yea. Wallcling mindgames. Frigate is good also.....well i use it. Japes is another.
I'm with Vyse on this one. The thing that held my game back for the longest time was because of the preferential treatment I gave to Smashville and Final Destination, and it ended up rendering my banana approaches linear, stale and predictable as a result. It wasn't until I started Z-grabbing bananas off platforms earlier during the summer that I started to open my eyes to newer, simpler banana mix-ups, which include simply jumping or short-hopping and throwing a banana. As I know I've mentioned this elsewhere, but this, combined with a glide-toss upon landing on another banana, really limits your opponents' approach options and consistently yields me free damage.
haha wow, sounds just like the tournament I went to on thursday.
good luck vyse. represent!
