ShadowLink84
Smash Hero
It is heavy armor not super people need to get their terms straight.
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You completely misunderstood me.
I never ONCE said Marth was as good as MK, I was just saying that he has no bad matchups, so OS's argument that everyone else can be counterpicked isn't true.
EDIT: You people need to read my posts. I never once said that Marth was as good as MK!
HEY, SAME HERE. Never would've guessed huh? >_>Then why are you part of this discussion Emblem Lord if you have nothing more to say other than common bashing. It's not like we haven't been told our character sucks a thousand times before >_>
Well, this is the first I've heard of that.Yoshi is weak.
So is Marth.
*Shrug* I don't see Hugo users complaining about it.And it's also hilarious to think that someone will think that a bad character is actually worth a d*mn just because they don't get beaten as badly in the match-up as most of the cast.
I hate you cuz you never answer my questions in the chat with emblem lord thread.Because seeing people delude themselves is annoying.
And it's also hilarious to think that someone will think that a bad character is actually worth a d*mn just because they don't get beaten as badly in the match-up as most of the cast.
Feel free to hate me now.
No... he's not.I'll say it even plainer. You're wrong.
Exactly so MK,Snake and maybe G&W are strong all other char are weak compared to those 3No.
I'm not.
Yoshi is weak.
So is Marth.
If you can't win a tournament consistently...YOU ARE WEAK!!!!
Thank you for evolving your idea through many illustrious points so it's easy for all of us to determine where you are coming from. You have truly, truly, changed all of our opinions on this matter. thank you for guiding us, you sir are a Smash Jesus.This thread is about to reach 500 pages of what is not going to happen. =/
Meta Knight is not super broken and that's that.... as long as he don't have the Mach Tornado from KSSU that is.
Best post so far in this thread, barely beating OS's earlier posts by a hair.Thank you for evolving your idea through many illustrious points so it's easy for all of us to determine where you are coming from. You have truly, truly, changed all of our opinions on this matter. thank you for guiding us, you sir are a Smash Jesus.
lol.Exactly so MK,Snake and maybe G&W are strong all other char are weak compared to those 3
I would hope so because Marth actually has weaknesses.Um I'm pretty sure no one is delusional into thinking Marth is almost as good as MK. They are talking about matchups numbers, and matchup numbers ONLY.
Were you pro-ban anti-ban or neutral before you played in this tournament?Banning Mk is stupid.... this tourney was boring cause of it....
Don't even ask him that, he's already biased enough as it is...Were you pro-ban anti-ban or neutral before you played in this tournament?
My point is, any character can be cheap, if the player is being cheap, am I right?
Your conception of 'cheap' is different from the majority's conception of it. And if throws are cheap to your friend, then he has to get better at the game, because grabs are easily avoidable.Well, I'm a n00b at smash (when it comes to knowing stengths and weaknesses of characters etc...)
I don't really see what the big deal about metaknight is?
The first rumour I ever heard was that if you combined your melee skills and used him he was the cheapest character in the entire game.
The only good MK players I've seen have been 100% cheap, they'll usually tornado attack/counter attack the entire match and draw you into traps to perform varios attacks on you.
But, seriously, it's just the player being cheap, am I right?
I main mario, he's not a character you can be cheap with as I figured...but my friend told me one time I was being pretty cheap since I was abusing throws one match.
My point is, any character can be cheap, if the player is being cheap, am I right?
No, I didn't say that, either.Yeah, but your using the no bad match up as a justification for either Marth to be banned next. We're saying that won't happen because Marth isn't as good as MK.
The ban criteria is that Meta is ridiculously overpowered and is greatly affecting the tourney scene in a dominating fashion.No, I didn't say that, either.
Again: READ MY POST. I was saying we need specific ban criteria so that Marth WON'T be at risk of getting banned since it's obvious he's not as broken, despite also having no disadvantaged matchups.
But the problem is he's beatable by other characters. You can select someone at a 6-4 with him and still win, which is why this whole debate is going on. If he was truly incapable of losing to anyone but another MK like people keep acting, we wouldn't be having this debate.The ban criteria is that Meta is ridiculously overpowered and is greatly affecting the tourney scene in a dominating fashion.
Here the reasonIn plus of having no bad matchups(Taked from EL thread): He excels at all the fundamentals of this game.
Spacing, poking, being safe, having the options to deal with bad situations, safe kill moves, having a spammable move that the majority of the cast can't deal with, insane recovery, can't be edge guarded.
He is just...on a whole different level.
But how often are you going to win this 6:4 match? If we are talking about two top, evenly skilled players the Meta Knight is going to win much more often.But the problem is he's beatable by other characters. You can select someone at a 6-4 with him and still win, which is why this whole debate is going on. If he was truly incapable of losing to anyone but another MK like people keep acting, we wouldn't be having this debate.
MK isn't unbeatable, then he'd be banned by now, but with no bad matchups and no real CP stages that hurt him, plus having a great recovery, priority, speed, disjointed hitboxes, spammable kill moves, the list goes on, he is amazing, he is overpowered, no one's saying he is unbeatable.But the problem is he's beatable by other characters. You can select someone at a 6-4 with him and still win, which is why this whole debate is going on. If he was truly incapable of losing to anyone but another MK like people keep acting, we wouldn't be having this debate.
Lmfao. This is the greatest comeback I have ever heard in my life. Kutos!Alright down-syndrome Sally let's take it easy.