*Sigh* Why can't people just leave my arguments to myself?
Well... Define "High". There's not really alot of characters placing "High" these days
Fair enough.
He also has some of the worst approaches in the game (Cyclone is decent, but once you know how to deal with it, it's easily punishable), his traction is a double edge sword, and his UpB is very punishable if whiffed. His recovery seems to be overjustified. It has great distance, but at times, you can't really defend yourself when recovering.
Unless he's playing those characters with a s***load of range our disjointed hitboxes, dair to nair is a **** good approach. dair to cyclone, or even just a straight bair WoP are all good approaches. I don't think you realize how good his priority is. "his UpB is very punishable if whiffed", actually jab to up b is unescapable by a certain number of characters and if you catch a character in the air with a jab, then the fire punch is guaranteed. His recovery is always defensable with a nair unless your playing MK or Marth. Also his shield traction isn't a problem if you know how to powershield.........it's great try it sometime.
Poor Shield =/= Poor Defence. DK also has one of the worst shields in the game, but is his defence bad? No, and neither is Yoshi. His physical defence is enough to cover the flaws of his shield.
How does this make any sense? Pretty much what you said here was:
Tier List = Potential > Tournament Results
Potential = Tournament Results
Therefore Tier List = Tournament Results?
Makes no sense to me. Plus your saying that an highly recognizable pro who has been playing the game since Melee times is using Luigi, that automatically proves his Potential? Isn't that an unfair comparison? That's pretty much like saying "Ha Ha! We have Boss and you don't you suck lololololololoooooolllllol".
Well they also had Void in the beginning stages of the summer.
And if you aren't reading my arguments all the way through and just ASSUMING that you are the one that is being biased. Plus was Luigi sought to be nerfed to hell? Was Luigi Complex? Was Luigi considered the worst by most?
What does this have to do with anything? Yoshi was obviously considered the worst for a long time for a reason. This is just like if CF mains came in here and complained about the same thing.
His shield is horrible, I can't deny it. However that doesn't mean his Defence is horrible. Also, a good benefit though is that his shield slides alot (Almost as much as Luigi's, no joke, so he usually gets out of harms way fast. Can't counter with it, but it does it's primary job as a shield.... I guess.
So his shield is horrible and a lot of Brawls metagame revolves around OoS punishment.......nice.
If you think a 40:60 is "Destroyed", then sure. Also Yoshi has Zero Deaths against both Snake and Falco (Snake is harder to pull off, and Falco is still under heavy debate), and ROB might actually be Neutral(ish). Also how is Yoshi vs. MetaKnight Laughable?
Top MK players laugh whenever they hear the whole Yoshi vs. MK crap. I really don't want to get into that right now because i'm sure it's been debated for months and Yoshi mains are stuck on it.
And if you were comparing Yoshi to Luigi, Luigi does even WORSE against the Higher Tiers! So Yoshi should remain Low Tier because his Matchups against the High Tiers are "Terrible", but Luigi should rise up to High Tier when his Matchups are WORSE! Your Logic astounds me.
When did I say Luigi should rise to high tier? Please don't put words in my mouth.
