The Official SBR Brawl Tier List v1.0

[brinboy789]

Lucas: Bad approaches, gimpable recovery, a lot of punishable moves, grab game is pretty bad.

bad approaches: PK fire is amazing for approach, SHPK fire is annoying as hell. gimpable recovery, yea. some of his moves are punishable, but some of them are totally safe (lol dtilt). his grab game is highrisk/highreward. if he can actually GET the grab, its really good, but if he misses, hes screwed lol

 

[Hype]

Is the SBR tier list v2 in the works? when can we expect this?

 

[Barge]

Pk fire, shield.
>_>

 

[Ryusuta]

yeah, because i main falco, it totally means that i can't play/don't know about any other character right?

It totally means you're in no position to talk about other characters being too easy to use, silly.

 

[gantrain05]

bad approaches: PK fire is amazing for approach, SHPK fire is annoying as hell. gimpable recovery, yea. some of his moves are punishable, but some of them are totally safe (lol dtilt). his grab game is highrisk/highreward. if he can actually GET the grab, its really good, but if he misses, hes screwed lol

PK fire is not an approach......its a spacing tool....he still has no approaches. and his grab game isn't bad really, his pivot grab is just about as fast/long ranged as yoshis, except his throws are much better imo.

 

[Deleted member]

his pivot grab is much worse than yoshis:
Yoshis has slightly longer range,
YOSHIS PIVOT GRAB LASTS MOST OF THE ANIMATION! That is the main thing, lucas' doesnt last.
Lucas' has more post lag, and is more punishable in general.


=P

 

[Ryusuta]

Yeah, there is just no contest between Yoshi and Lucas' grabs. Yoshi's pivot grab simply destroys Lucas'.

OLIMAR, on the other hand...

 

[greenflame88]

Haha. I main Lucas, but I don't approach, I get approached and counter or w/e. Yes, Lucas is screwed if his grabs miss, but are deadly when they connect. And yes, there may be some moves that are EASILY Punishable, but if you play someone with good enough Lucas skills, those punishable moves usually connect. =P

XD

 

[Snowstalker]

Is the SBR tier list v2 in the works? when can we expect this?

1: Yes, i'm sure it is.
2: I have no clue, but probably in early 2009.

 

[XxBlackxX]

It totally means you're in no position to talk about other characters being too easy to use, silly.

not true...GnW and D3 were both my secondaries before so i know them. so by that reasoning, im assuming charizard is the only character youre entitled to talk about, therefore your statement that D3 isn't one of the easiest to use holds no value.

 

[Ryusuta]

Way to make my point fly WAY over your head, dude.

(And I don't main Charizard/PT, by the way. )

 

[XxBlackxX]

Way to make my point fly WAY over your head, dude.

(And I don't main Charizard/PT, by the way. )

ok, so unless D3 is your main, isn't that your point on since i main falco, i shouldn't be knowledgeable about other characters?

 

[Ryusuta]

No, that's not my point at all.

 

[Barge]

If theres any uses to pivot walking found, I could see a lot of characters going up, like luigi/fox/marth.
I don't really see anything being discovered from pivot walking though. But it is easier to surprise your opponent with a shield grab/fsmash. Lulz.

 

[XxBlackxX]

No, that's not my point at all.

say what you mean then...

 

[Ryusuta]

I said exactly what I meant, just as I always do. If there was any subtext at all, I didn't make any effort whatsoever to hide it.

 

[Barge]

Falco is easy to use. o_o

 

[XxBlackxX]

Falco is easy to use. o_o

would you not agree GnW is easier? o_o

and @Sir Orion
then i don't see how just because i main falco i am somehow "ineligible" to say another character is easy to use.

 

[Barge]

would you not agree GnW is easier? o_o

and @Sir Orion
then i don't see how just because i main falco i am somehow "ineligible" to say another character is easy to use.

Easiest: GnW, Metaknight, Falco
IMO at least

 

[Ryusuta]

Barge just gave you an INCREDIBLY obvious clue as to what I've been saying this whole time in the previous post, Black.

And he flat-out TOLD you before that.

 

[XxBlackxX]

Barge just gave you an INCREDIBLY obvious clue as to what I've been saying this whole time in the previous post, Black.

And he flat-out TOLD you before that.

lolwut? seriously, i don't get it.
all he said was that falco is easy to use (which i agree with by the way) but i said that GnW was easier imo.
and i never said, "D3 is the easiest" if you go back and look at my post. "one of the easiest" was what i said.

 

[Ryusuta]

You'll notice that I never made any attempt to contradict any of those things.

 

[XxBlackxX]

You'll notice that I never made any attempt to contradict any of those things.

oh ****, i get it now x[

ur a confusing person Sir Orion lol ...or am i just stupid?

 

[Ryusuta]

Don't worry about it. It's all good. I'll admit that I was deliberately being somewhat obtuse about it, heh.

 

[Mmac]

Lucas's Pivot Grab is good, but as Burnt explained, It's just much harder to use in general.

Still much better than his other grabs though.

 

[Ravin]

<.< Samus should be getting higher on the list, the only reason she isnt is her inability to escape D3's grab.

I mean... Seriously, Wolf can be CG'd 0- Death by a Falco. But hes close to mid highish?

and Sir O got a few good sights on my Samus at the tounry we went to. I attracted a good crowd or more.

Also Tether = too good.

 

[Ryusuta]

I should have shown you some of my Yoshi, but I only wanted to play random. *Shrug*

I'm still disappointed with how I did, though. One of my worst outings ever.

 

[Ravin]

I saw your Yoshi in the tounry. I kept my eye on you -winks-

 

[Ryusuta]

I only played him like twice. I'm surprised you saw at all. I'm also incredibly disappointed.

 

[Ravin]

There is always next time... I think i placed top ten, being in tenth, i didnt bother asking after that *** ****** Digity handed me... XD
Nice DDR skillz btw.

 

[Ryusuta]

Last CCCT I attended (the one in Thornton), I placed 3rd in Teams (with a total stranger ) and... I think top 16 in Singles. Still not great, but one heck of a lot better than this time around. I had a close 2-1 set with that Peach player (****ing Luigi's Mansion), but that second match creamed me, sadly.

(Incidentally, why am I always up against someone that's got a cheer squad with them? )

 

[BurtonEarny]

I do have to say that, to an extent, ddd is an easy enough charater to use effectivly. However, his air game is difficult (namely fair and hitting with uair last hit) to master. He is more difficult to use than people give him credit.

 

[kr3wman]

Last CCCT I attended (the one in Thornton), I placed 3rd in Teams (with a total stranger ) and... I think top 16 in Singles. Still not great, but one heck of a lot better than this time around. I had a close 2-1 set with that Peach player (****ing Luigi's Mansion), but that second match creamed me, sadly.

(Incidentally, why am I always up against someone that's got a cheer squad with them? )

What I love is cheer squads for scrubs. When you **** the scrub the cheer squad starts johning to hell.

 

[Barge]

<.< Samus should be getting higher on the list, the only reason she isnt is her inability to escape D3's grab.

I mean... Seriously, Wolf can be CG'd 0- Death by a Falco. But hes close to mid highish?

and Sir O got a few good sights on my Samus at the tounry we went to. I attracted a good crowd or more.

Also Tether = too good.

Honestly her lack of kill moves is also a culprit. I swear, I can't kill under 120% with her. Excluding dair spikes of course.

 

[PKNintendo]

Who else thinks that Ness should move down?

 

[viparagon]

Who else thinks that Ness should move down?

he should be below mario at least IMO

 

[PKNintendo]

he should be below mario at least IMO

No. Mario should always be below Ness. I made that post as a joke. Ness>Mario.

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

Yes! Fanboy Fight!

 

[PKNintendo]

Yes! Fanboy Fight!

You gotta join in man. Your a Manic fanboy right? Manic=cool like Ness!

 

[Umby]

You gotta join in man. Your a Manic fanboy right? Manic=cool like Ness!

Well this is false. Nothing is as cool as Ness.