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The Official Krystal Thread ;)

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Elysium

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Alright, i'm back sorry for the delay. I forgot that since Thanksgiving, we got the rest of the week off. I also found out that I'm getting my home line put in on Wednesday this week, so no more college only internet.
I have class here in a little bit, but after i'll be back on and working on what I think is a workable moveset for Krystal. It'll most likely be a tweaked version of Fluffy's except mine will be better. ;)
 

Teeb147

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It'd be pretty easy to create a moveset, it would just be cool if some one had the talent to draw it out.

btw, did you guys stop taking in new members?
 

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The "Wow that took forever" Krystal Moveset

(I'm comparing her to Fox since we would be the closest match....)
*Size* - A tad taller than fox (or same size)
*Weight* - Less than fox, more than Pikachu....
*Speed* - Same as fox
*Strength* - Staff makes her about where Link is
*Jump* - Above average (higher than fox)
*Recovery* - Since I want a teleporter Krystal I'd say better than Fox's
*Fall* - Average faller
*Combo* - A tad below sheikness
*KO-ness* - Somewhat low, only one or two KO moves

Thats all for stats

Neutral A (second tap)
One horizontal swipe. (A vertical slice)
first hit=5%
second hit=7%
Lag=very low

F-Tilt
A vertical slice starting from the ground, sends opponent upwards.
Hit=10%
Lag=Low

U-Tilt
Horizontal swing above Krystals head (from shoulder to shoulder)
Hit=9%
Lag=Average

D-Tilt
Forward sweep on the ground
Hit=9%
Lag=Low

Dash
Jumps low and does a hard horizontal slice
Hit=10%
Lag= Mid

F-Smash
Steps around 180 degrees, turns back and swings the staff back
Hit=13%
Lag=Mid

U-Smash
Stronger U-tilt, but two swings altering direction (left than right?)
Hit=11% (wont hit twice)
Lag= High

D-Smash
360 degree sweep.
Hit=12%
Lag= Mid

Arials

Nair
Sex kick
Hit=7%
Lag=High (leg stays extended for awhile)

Fair
D-smash in the air (less powerful, swung around mid body)
Hit=7%
Lag=Mid

Bair
Short backwards kick, followed by a swing of the staff
Hit=10%(can only hit once)
Lag=Mid

Dair
Hard downward swing, krystal does a flip because of the swing
Hit=10% (spike)
Lag=Low

B-movese
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Neutral-B

Ground: Midsize fireball shoots out of the staff (straight trajectory)
Air: Same as ground
Hit=9%
Lag=Mid

Forward-B

Ground: Krystal thrusts the staff forward about two staff lengths (depending). If it hits it encases the opponent in ice and shoots them upwards Mr. Freezie style. Ice encasing doesn't last.
Air: Same as ground, except it doesn't shoot opponents in the air, they just fall. Counts as second jump.
Hit=10%
Lag=High (short enough to dodge retaliation)

Down-B
Ground: Krystal slams the staff tip in the ground, resulting in a a moving shockwave along the ground. (could have some mario cape abilities if extremely timed right.)
Air: Krystal fast falls to the ground with the staff tip below her. When she lands it's the same as on the ground, except weaker shockwaves, and she recovers quicker.
Ground Hit=10% per shockwave hit
Air Hit=15% before she hits the ground.
7% per shockwave
Ground lag= High (low if L-canceled brawl style?)
Air lag= Mid

Up-B
Ground: Krystal crouches and teleports roughly the length of Mewtwos teleport
Air: Same as ground minus the crouch
Hit=N/A%
Lag= Low (landing)

Grabs

Grab hit
Krystal grabs them by the collar area and stabs her opponent with the tip of the staff
Hit=3% per stab

F-Grab
Krystal throws them forward and swings her staff
Hit=5%
Lag=Extremely low

B-Grab
Krystal tosses her opponent backwards and roundhouse kicks them
Hit=6%
Lag= Low

D-Grab
Krystal slams her opponent down with her staff.
Hit=8%
Lag= Extremely low

U-Grab
Krystal throws her opponent upwards and kicks them
Hit=7%
Lag=Low

Final Smash
(To be honest, I like some of the other Final Smashes that have been thought of, but since this is a personal moveset, I'll try not to steal anyone elses FS idea....)
Krystal gets that cool glow, and mumbles something that undecipherable. Then 6 Spirits come out (1 at each point of the screen and 1 at top middle, other at bottom middle. Each spirits does a fly through twice.
Hit=Insane damage yada yada etc.

Krystal Wins

That should give us something to discuss and ridicule for awhile.
Edit: Of course not Teeb, Your added to the smashwiki page, which means you get to wear the Sig proudly. ;)
@KB-Depending on the reaction to this moveset.... we might still be. lol
 

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Edit: Of course not Teeb, Your added to the smashwiki page, which means you get to wear the Sig proudly. ;)
@KB-Depending on the reaction to this moveset.... we might still be. lol
kk, I was waiting for a pm :p
Sweet, it's time to staff **** people.

Like your moveset by the way.

I heard they were removing the clubs from the wiki pages, anyone heard that?
 

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im not crazy about the moveset, in facgt i dont really like it. i like the most common one(im working on an what would be an "A" attack myself) but the FS was ok. i think the up should be the staff's rocket boost. and Krystal never teleported in any of the games that i can recall. i'll post mine later
 

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im not crazy about the moveset, in facgt i dont really like it. i like the most common one(im working on an what would be an "A" attack myself) but the FS was ok. i think the up should be the staff's rocket boost. and Krystal never teleported in any of the games that i can recall. i'll post mine later

You've made me realize that I dont know everything Krystal is capable of, does anyone have a list of all the kind of moves/ spells, ect. that Krystal has done in the starfox games??
 

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kk, I was waiting for a pm :p
Sweet, it's time to staff **** people.

Like your moveset by the way.

I heard they were removing the clubs from the wiki pages, anyone heard that?
Yes, they are removing them, the R.I.D.L.E.Y., A.S.H.L.E.Y., S.S.S., and Geno Alliance have all been deleted.
 

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well we could always start a free website thing or just start a private thread.

and Krystal didnt really do much magic its really what the staff could do.
 

Teeb147

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well we could always start a free website thing or just start a private thread.

and Krystal didnt really do much magic its really what the staff could do.
And is there a list of what she was able to do? I remember a bit the moves she could do, but I dont remember if there was anything else showed like in the cinematics, or anything showed in assault and command..

Do you know basically everything she could do with the staff? Was there a signiture gun for her in assault?

Just trying to inform myself more about her.
 

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And is there a list of what she was able to do? I remember a bit the moves she could do, but I dont remember if there was anything else showed like in the cinematics, or anything showed in assault and command..

Do you know basically everything she could do with the staff? Was there a signiture gun for her in assault?

Just trying to inform myself more about her.
Well, we do know that she is capable of doing all the things Fox did with her staff in adventures, boost, fire blast, etc.

As far as Assault, she is most likely capable of using any standard issue Star Fox equipment. She has movesets from 2 different extremes. On one end of the spectrum is advanced technology and on the other side is physical prowess and magic.

She is agile enough to be a formidable staff wielder...though her competency as a firearms specialist is not certain.
 

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nice move list but as much as i hate to say it i really hate to say but i think ur over estimating her just a tad (man that was hard to say)
 

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A moveset I made years ago

Krystal,

A (1st): swipe
A (2nd): counter swipe
A (3rd): downward swipe
A (repeatedly): figure 8's (traces figure 8’s with staff tip using primarily wrist)
A (while dashing): skid (slides with staff facing forwards)

Tilt Side A: double kick (uses staff as support, and kicks outward with both legs)
Tilt Up A: uppercut (staff starts just behind ankles and is arced until it rests on her shoulders)
Tilt Down A: staff jab (very long ranged ground based jab)

SMASH side A: power smash (energy charge is sent through staff as it strikes)
SMASH up A: vortex (Krystal extends staff above head in a conical spinning motion)
SMASH down A: double sweep (first clockwise at feet, then counterclockwise at feet)

A (midair): spin cover (spins staff around laterally, moving it from top to bottom once)
Forward A (midair): Meteor pummel (arcs staff from behind head down to feet)
Back A (midair): double strike (swings staff laterally. It continues the motion over her head and comes back around to strike again)
Up A (midair): safety bar (holds staff overhead to block and then spins once on it (think uneven bars in gymnastics))
Down A (midair): clear away (spins staff rapidly below knees in a kneeling position)

Z: grab
Z or A (while holding): elbow to head
Forward (while holding): gut staff jab
Back (while holding): kick away
Up (while holding): fan blades (holds opponent overhead and spins staff, hitting them repeatedly for nice damage but little knockback)
↓ (while holding): one toe drop (lays opponent on ground, jumps and lands on them, with one toe)

Up B: staff boost (shoots almost straight up (starfox adventures))
B: fire-blaster (not the fastest projectile, but can be fired in rapid succession creating a chain of bolts (starfox adventures))
Side B: ice blast (can potentially freeze, like ice climbers ↓B, but slightly stronger and in one direction (starfox adventures))
Down B: ground quake (super ground quake in mid-air (starfox adventures))

(Out of 10)
Speed: 7
Power: 4
Size: 6
Jump: 6
Durability: 4
Projectile or melee: either


Krystal: this very balanced character is a great pick. She has extraordinary range and her staff gains a slight advantage in damage percentage at the tip so she can keep foes at a distance. She is a very finesse based character, so a lot of practice is necessary to truly make Krystal a force to be reckoned with. The way to truly master Krystal, however, lies in the mastery of her B-button moves.
B These slow moving projectiles can be fired in rapid succession. It may be easy to avoid one or two of these fire blasts, but a chain of five or six can seriously hinder the advancement of foes. Use this move to keep foes at a distance, keep foes from returning from off of the edge, or as a distraction to aid your retreat.
Up B The staff boost technique is, unfortunately, not capable of covering much horizontal distance. It does, however, move at a fairly decent clip and does cover great vertical distance. This move also does not leave Krystal vulnerable during its execution. It is great for climbing up a stage’s levels and escaping congestion on the ground.
Side B This chilly technique is great for stopping enemies in their tracks. This move can stun advancing enemies immediately in front of you for long enough for you to escape or perform a quick smash attack, whichever you prefer.
Down B This ground shaking move is a meteor smash in midair. When it strikes the ground, it sends out a shockwave that sends opponents flying. Its relative strength is proportional to the distance above the ground you are when you use it. It is great for putting an exclamation point on entering the fray, clearing enemies and causing all around havoc.
Master these moves and using them effectively, and you master Krystal.

If aggressive: Keep foes at end of staff length. At this distance, few melee attacks can reach you, allowing you the upper hand. Try to keep engaged with only one foe at a time, however, as Krystal is not the sturdiest of brawlers.

If defensive: you are in luck. Krystal’s moves allow for quick escapes and effective distance attacks. Krystal can easily snipe or quickly enter a fray, cause great disruption and, just as quickly, retreat. Mastering her “B” button moves can help you accomplish this task with the slightest of ease.

If you love to be in the melee: Krystal may not be the best bet for you. She is a little frail, but is an easy enough target to hit that she’s a liability. Her earth shattering Down B and chilling Side B moves can cause widespread damage, however. Know when to retreat if you plan on using this strategy with Krystal.
 

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nice lists im guessin were movin into her moves now that all the problems were fixed. ill probally come up with one of my own sooner or later just for fun but i think its pretty much decided. nice list E but the fs could have been alot better though all the good fs's were taken by everyone else. the earthwalker fs, the spirits in different ways of attacking. not much after that i suppose but whatevs

yeah im not the noob in the club anymore lol j/k j/k

welcome teeb glad ya made it in

top ten in **** staff confirmed LOL
 

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Fridays update will be Krystal, I can sense it. Also, I bet 5 dollars on it.
 

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Alright, i'm back sorry for the delay. I forgot that since Thanksgiving, we got the rest of the week off. I also found out that I'm getting my home line put in on Wednesday this week, so no more college only internet.
I have class here in a little bit, but after i'll be back on and working on what I think is a workable moveset for Krystal. It'll most likely be a tweaked version of Fluffy's except mine will be better. ;)

nevermind i dont want to find out just ignore and keep posting, just ignore and keep posting

anyways nic sig
 

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well he posted all the requirments on the wiki page here
http://www.smashwiki.com/wiki/The_Rape_Staff

pretty much if you support krystal and you remain active in the thread all you need to do is tell the leader about yourself and what you plan to do for brawl and you're in (so close you could have been in the top ten if you would have asked a little sooner lol im kiddin we need all the supporters we can get in here)
 

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I'm really afraid to ask, but why is that Krystal organization called the '**** Staff'?!
i havent been able to find out either, but i think its something involving ****** people with a staff, because she would use a staff. .. maybe
 

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I'm too lazy to split up the quote, so I'll just make my comments/ideas in red.

(I'm comparing her to Fox since we would be the closest match....)
*Size* - A tad taller than fox (or same size)
*Weight* - Less than fox, more than Pikachu....
*Speed* - Same as fox
*Strength* - Staff makes her about where Link is
*Jump* - Above average (higher than fox)
*Recovery* - Since I want a teleporter Krystal I'd say better than Fox's
*Fall* - Average faller
*Combo* - A tad below sheikness
*KO-ness* - Somewhat low, only one or two KO moves
My only major issues are that she's as fast as fox and as strong as link. that seems way broken to me, unless you meen brawl fox and link, which in that case, maybe I heard fox was nerfed.

Thats all for stats


I actually study martial arts and know a few staff forms, so I'll try to use my knowledge here, and apply some of the forms I know. I hope I don't sound too condescending

For starters, I have always been taught to hold a staff with my right hand facing palm up, and left palm down, dividing the staff into equal thirds. It should be held so that it goes diagonally down from right to left in a "ready stance" when attacking it will rarely be like this (duh)


Neutral A (second tap)
One horizontal swipe. (A vertical slice)
first hit=5%
second hit=7%
Lag=very low

Strikes vertically down with the head of the staff, head ends up at about stomach height. very fast. If A is pressed a second time krystal will swing up with the bottom of the staff, just as fast but less powerful, bottom of staff ends up at about stomach height. If pressed many times she can do any of the crazy combos from Adventures.

F-Tilt
A vertical slice starting from the ground, sends opponent upwards.
Hit=10%
Lag=Low

Swings head of staff around her head resulting in a horizontal swipe from left to right. The bottom of the staff should end up at her right side, and the head directly in front of her

U-Tilt
Horizontal swing above Krystals head (from shoulder to shoulder)
Hit=9%
Lag=Average

since I never have to deal with a guy jmping on me from up above in real life, I really wouldn't know what to do here. your idea is fine

D-Tilt
Forward sweep on the ground
Hit=9%
Lag=Low

slides her grip slightly to the lower end of the staff, and sweeps the head along the ground.

Dash
Jumps low and does a hard horizontal slice
Hit=10%
Lag= Mid

I've never done a dash attack in real life, this is fine

F-Smash
Steps around 180 degrees, turns back and swings the staff back
Hit=13%
Lag=Mid

That could work. My ideas include her thrusting the staff forward. Think C.Falcon/Gdorf in melee with homerun bat

U-Smash
Stronger U-tilt, but two swings altering direction (left than right?)
Hit=11% (wont hit twice)
Lag= High

Again, most people dont jump on me, really wouldn't know what to do.

D-Smash
360 degree sweep.
Hit=12%
Lag= Mid

I'm not sure what you mean by 360 degrees, if you mean the staff just swings 360, then good, but I don't want krystal spinning like a balerina.

Arials

I was hopeing for a more marthesque arial moveset, but what you have is fine

Nair
Sex kick
Hit=7%
Lag=High (leg stays extended for awhile)

Fair
D-smash in the air (less powerful, swung around mid body)
Hit=7%
Lag=Mid

Bair
Short backwards kick, followed by a swing of the staff
Hit=10%(can only hit once)
Lag=Mid

Dair
Hard downward swing, krystal does a flip because of the swing
Hit=10% (spike)
Lag=Low

B-movese
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Neutral-B

Ground: Midsize fireball shoots out of the staff (straight trajectory)
Air: Same as ground
Hit=9%
Lag=Mid

Forward-B

Ground: Krystal thrusts the staff forward about two staff lengths (depending). If it hits it encases the opponent in ice and shoots them upwards Mr. Freezie style. Ice encasing doesn't last.
Air: Same as ground, except it doesn't shoot opponents in the air, they just fall. Counts as second jump.
Hit=10%
Lag=High (short enough to dodge retaliation)

I would have wanted her to shoot a cloud of Ice, but this works

Down-B
Ground: Krystal slams the staff tip in the ground, resulting in a a moving shockwave along the ground. (could have some mario cape abilities if extremely timed right.)
Air: Krystal fast falls to the ground with the staff tip below her. When she lands it's the same as on the ground, except weaker shockwaves, and she recovers quicker.
Ground Hit=10% per shockwave hit
Air Hit=15% before she hits the ground.
7% per shockwave
Ground lag= High (low if L-canceled brawl style?)
Air lag= Mid

I would have thought the air vesion would be stronger all around, but OK

Up-B
Ground: Krystal crouches and teleports roughly the length of Mewtwos teleport
Air: Same as ground minus the crouch
Hit=N/A%
Lag= Low (landing)

I really don't see krystal teleporting, she's telepathic, not telekinetic. Staff booster

Grabs

Grab hit
Krystal grabs them by the collar area and stabs her opponent with the tip of the staff
Hit=3% per stab

F-Grab
Krystal throws them forward and swings her staff
Hit=5%
Lag=Extremely low

B-Grab
Krystal tosses her opponent backwards and roundhouse kicks them
Hit=6%
Lag= Low

D-Grab
Krystal slams her opponent down with her staff.
Hit=8%
Lag= Extremely low

U-Grab
Krystal throws her opponent upwards and kicks them
Hit=7%
Lag=Low

Final Smash
(To be honest, I like some of the other Final Smashes that have been thought of, but since this is a personal moveset, I'll try not to steal anyone elses FS idea....)
Krystal gets that cool glow, and mumbles something that undecipherable. Then 6 Spirits come out (1 at each point of the screen and 1 at top middle, other at bottom middle. Each spirits does a fly through twice.
Hit=Insane damage yada yada etc.

My favorite idea has been that krystal releases krazoa spirits from her that posses her opponents and hinder their movements, or they go inside her and make her stronger. Either way they just let her get better attacks.
But now I think I have a new favorite


Krystal Wins

That should give us something to discuss and ridicule for awhile.
Edit: Of course not Teeb, Your added to the smashwiki page, which means you get to wear the Sig proudly. ;)
@KB-Depending on the reaction to this moveset.... we might still be. lol
The only thing I feel that strongly about are her neutral A moves


I'm really afraid to ask, but why is that Krystal organization called the '**** Staff'?!
i havent been able to find out either, but i think its something involving ****** people with a staff, because she would use a staff. .. maybe
Yeah, we really just like double meanings and inuendo. The idea was that it gives a new meaning to getting "*****" in smash
 

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Blargh... but then again, I'm used to **** jokes, I go to court-records.net's forums.

But I find something REALLY ironic about the **** Staff. Their wiki page says:

Any support that comes from a sexual attraction to the character does not count. You must support the character, not the character's body.
The group's name is about ****** someone with a foreign object, but they don't want their members to be distinctly about sex? How ironic.

Is there another Krystal support group? At least Geno's group is more creative.
 
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