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The North Carolina Melee Power Rankings! (Updated 2/11/10!)

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*P*L*U*R*

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1. Have you ever seen me? I'm a ****ing light weight if you ever saw one.
2. I don't normally tolerate Jew jokes and have gotten into fights because of it (I know none of you could see me in a fight), but you guys are all my friends and I know it's all in good fun.
3. **** you gofg you ****ing prick. No one gives a **** about your statistics and no one else finds it funny.
Really, Lucas? None of us could "see you" in a fight? Really?

<33333


AND HELL YEAH. cHEAP DRUNKS FOR THE WIN.
 

Foxy

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I think it's really stupid when anyone of any racial/religious identity becomes upset at minor or irrelevant (or even significant) statements regarding that identity.

Sure, sometimes people are flat-out trying to insult you in the most harmful way possible and that's a real offense, but they can do that to you regardless of using racial remarks... if they want to insult you, there's lots of ways.

But it gets really annoying when someone makes a random statement or post that just simply has the word "Jew" in it and Lucas pops in saying "CAREFUL GUYS I'M JEWISH".

It's like... really? Do you really think they were trying to offend your identity?

If I overhear people talking about how much they hate kids these days with their emo f@g style, or if they tell me something like that to my face, I don't get offended at all. One, because they're right: that is what I look like and it's my choice. Second, because why does it hurt me? Let them have their lulz.

It's your choice if you want to get upset over a racial/religious remark (offensive or neutral). It has absolutely nothing to do with your identity. Lucas would probably be unhappy with me if I said to him "you're a Jew." Why? It's true. There is absolutely zero offense in that statement.

I think Hitler was one of the best leaders and made some amazing progress and decisions if he just didn't have the whole antisemitism deal, which showed he was pretty insane in the end. I think one of the funniest songs from a musical is "Springtime for Hitler" from The Producers. My grandfather thinks the Holocaust was a conspiracy and never happened or was exaggerated.

Does this mean I'm trying to offend Jews?

Of course not. Two of those things are unrelated opinions of mine and another is a simple fact that isn't under my control.

And it bothers me when people get upset over silly things like people's opinions or facts that are obviously not intended to offend them in any way.

lol i don't even know why i'm posting this, i'm bored and just got up, this thread jus git me thinkin
 

Criosphinx

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I was excited for a second. The only time I type that cataclysmically bad is when I'm tripping on DXM. I thought I could relate >.>


On that subject, dear NC. I smoked Opium for the first time the other night, and played Melee for like 5 hours.

Gooooood times.
 

*P*L*U*R*

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I think it's really stupid when anyone of any racial/religious identity becomes upset at minor or irrelevant (or even significant) statements regarding that identity.

Sure, sometimes people are flat-out trying to insult you in the most harmful way possible and that's a real offense, but they can do that to you regardless of using racial remarks... if they want to insult you, there's lots of ways.

But it gets really annoying when someone makes a random statement or post that just simply has the word "Jew" in it and Lucas pops in saying "CAREFUL GUYS I'M JEWISH".

It's like... really? Do you really think they were trying to offend your identity?

If I overhear people talking about how much they hate kids these days with their emo f@g style, or if they tell me something like that to my face, I don't get offended at all. One, because they're right: that is what I look like and it's my choice. Second, because why does it hurt me? Let them have their lulz.

It's your choice if you want to get upset over a racial/religious remark (offensive or neutral). It has absolutely nothing to do with your identity. Lucas would probably be unhappy with me if I said to him "you're a Jew." Why? It's true. There is absolutely zero offense in that statement.

I think Hitler was one of the best leaders and made some amazing progress and decisions if he just didn't have the whole antisemitism deal, which showed he was pretty insane in the end. I think one of the funniest songs from a musical is "Springtime for Hitler" from The Producers. My grandfather thinks the Holocaust was a conspiracy and never happened or was exaggerated.

Does this mean I'm trying to offend Jews?

Of course not. Two of those things are unrelated opinions of mine and another is a simple fact that isn't under my control.

And it bothers me when people get upset over silly things like people's opinions or facts that are obviously not intended to offend them in any way.

lol i don't even know why i'm posting this, i'm bored and just got up, this thread jus git me thinkin
good fucin poast


GIMME DA CHOCOLATE
 

Dorsey

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It's your choice if you want to get upset over a racial/religious remark (offensive or neutral). It has absolutely nothing to do with your identity. Lucas would probably be unhappy with me if I said to him "you're a Jew." Why? It's true. There is absolutely zero offense in that statement.
Yes foxy you may be right(seriously) but when you're older, and a little more mature you will learn to not say things like that all, just for the sole principle of the other person possibly getting 'unhappy' over it. I personally don't like to be in the situation of knowingly antagonizing someone, just because I'm right. Maybe you do though, idk..but that's what little kids do. Anyway, being right over the matter and especially religion is not the issue here, it's respect. It sounds like to me that you haven't said stuff like that to the wrong jew before. When and if that day comes, I think you will have a slightly different view point.
 

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Yes foxy you may be right(seriously) but when you're older, and a little more mature you will learn to not say things like that all, just for the sole principle of the other person possibly getting 'unhappy' over it. I personally don't like to be in the situation of knowingly antagonizing someone, just because I'm right. Maybe you do though, idk..but that's what little kids do. Anyway, being right over the matter and especially religion is not the issue here, it's respect. It sounds like to me that you haven't said stuff like that to the wrong jew before. When and if that day comes, I think you will have a slightly different view point.
Yeah, I understand what you mean.

That's why I gave those opinions over a forum on the internet. :laugh:

Even though people SHOULDN'T get upset over anything like that, it doesn't mean that they won't, and it also doesn't mean that you should go around saying it to reaffirm that you're correct.

But I do bring it up like I did when discussing the subject itself, but out of that context there wouldn't be any reason.
 

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You're still not getting it though. The two actions cannot even be compared in the same regard, although they're both improperly handled. The reason for this is because if the person who made the initial comment has the power to just keep their mouth shut and not even stir a stupid counter-reaction to his already stupid comment. You have two actions of stupidity, a cause and a reaction... who is at fault here? I mean c'mon.

I'm not saying that people can't have friends that they joke with, but debating it as if it's applicable to society in any sort of way?....lol. As I said, it's not a matter of debate, right, or wrong, it's respect.

The reasoning behind my initial post was using myself as an example saying if I were in Lucas' shoes, I would beat peoples' ***** for saying that **** to me, which in itself proves my point. I am one of these people who would handle situations like these very improperly.
 

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We could be playing Melee with our minds and play with each other every day with our teleportation machines if it weren't for those **** Christians.
 

Dr Peepee

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Yeah, so I wanted to talk about Melee crews. How many are there, and how willing are they to pick up stragglers(Daft or others)?

I know right now there is:

SP(I think)

State(I'm pretty sure)

Chapel Hill?

I'm gonna try to get a Gboro/WS thing going.

Is there even enough of YGO left?

The Kids(when they come I'm with them lol).

Seems like there will be good competition during crews at Billfests. Question is, how many people will be on each crew in crew battles(average)? How will the crew battles be organized(so the two "best" don't play first)? And of course, how much trash talk will be dished out?

I just want a general idea of crews since I wasn't really sure about what I read in the Billfest thread and figured this would be some nice clarification.
 

ZIO

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*takes wheel*

OKAY!

*starts attempting to steer in right direction*

Why are there ganondorfs in the tier list? How did pyro get in there? How much variance in skill is there from top 3 and bottom 3? Why is there not enough Falcon in the list? Will the next event (to5) make changes in this list, or will we have to wait? Why are we so concerned with this?
 

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If we have enough people, we will probably do round robin. If not, we'll have to seed it. Regional crews might be kind of hard, perhaps we should just do it loosely by association.
 

ph00tbag

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Chapel Hill is mostly Brawl/B+ players at this point. Melee players, there's Ace, Dorsey and Karn, that I can think of, but Karn is in MP, as I recall, if they're even still active.

So there's not really much of a Chapel Hill Melee crew.
 

vZakat

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Not enough NCSU Melee players right now for a crew... but maybe someday.
I'm taking one class at NCSU does that mean I could be in a crew for it? I don't really care much for crews though, and I'm sure you don't want a Roy main in your crew.
 

Dr Peepee

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vZakat is legit.

What if you're NOT THERE Stongers?

I'll answer some of your stuff later, ZIO. I have ANOTHER FREAKING MEETING soon.

Guys quit being gay and just enter crews. Those who are hesitant to enter will be competition for each other, and more confident crews will make interesting matches as well.
 

Dr Peepee

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*takes wheel*

OKAY!

*starts attempting to steer in right direction*

Why are there ganondorfs in the tier list? How did pyro get in there? How much variance in skill is there from top 3 and bottom 3? Why is there not enough Falcon in the list? Will the next event (to5) make changes in this list, or will we have to wait? Why are we so concerned with this?
There is Ganon on the tier list, you obviously aren't looking hard enough.

He beat some people and has a fro.

Me and LoZR ****, and Boss Nasty ***** but he doesn't watch videos/get to travel so he doesn't improve as much.
Bottom 3 will keep changing(new faces very soon I predict).

We aren't all manly enough. Need more Catfish/Thunda.

TO5 probably won't change anything, but it all depends on how much NC surprises the panel(by going) I guess.

Concerned with the PRs? Because they keep people focused on improving in a goal oriented fashion. It's also fun to brag. Oh and everyone likes being on a cool list.



The Kids can pretty much do both Melee and Brawl lol. We ****. G-Salem on the other hand.....

I'm excited PLUR. But then again, I'm always excited when you're involved. <3
 

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Raleigh crew will be the biggest for sure.

I can sorta help you PLUR, but I don't know a lot about ICs.

You should record something so I can watch it. If you can't though, then just lemme watch you play for a bit and I can usually help.

I think someone has told me before that you base too much of your game off of predictions instead of combining predictions and reactions. Maybe work on guessing but being flexible(for example, you know a Foxes best option is tech in place, so you try to punish that every time, even though the particular Fox you are fighting never techs in place or is able to read you dashing towards him and always techs behind you. Think of the missed grabs!)? It's all I've got for now.
 
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