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The North Carolina Melee Power Rankings! (Updated 2/11/10!)
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Sorry phoot. I usually don't read the posts (lolllolololol ifitdoesntpertaintome) but since you pointed it out, I wanted to reaction image it.
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
I'd take it up the butt from Samus.
Just sayin`
Just sayin`
Foxy
Smash Master
I'd take it up the butt from lolis.
Ohi, just droppin in
Ohi, just droppin in
Zero_Gamer
Smash Master
Foxy, is Foxy
BIG GAY THUNDER
BIG GAY THUNDER
Boss Hog (stack it up)
Smash Ace
sheik VS marth is not even.
it's like 6-4 sheik-marth on most stages, and on others I'd give it to sheik 7-3.
Sheik is actually better on BF and yoshis story than marth is IMO. needle cancels and playing a patient/fast/campy style is the death of most characters on those stages VS sheik. easily.
see- reno.
it's like 6-4 sheik-marth on most stages, and on others I'd give it to sheik 7-3.
Sheik is actually better on BF and yoshis story than marth is IMO. needle cancels and playing a patient/fast/campy style is the death of most characters on those stages VS sheik. easily.
see- reno.
7-3 is basically unwinnable Boss Hog, you sure about that?
I can see 6-4 though.
I can see 6-4 though.
Dorsey
Banned via Warnings
Setting up for tip shots or a regular fsmash isn't too hard though. I don't think that the fact that marth has to use either of those to finish a stock in the high % is insanely disadvantageous or anything..and if it was a really good marth i doubt that problem would come up much.
7:3 is a little intense. I think it's 55/45 marth, or on an even more even playing field even...maybe.
HER*****
7:3 is a little intense. I think it's 55/45 marth, or on an even more even playing field even...maybe.
HER*****
Boss Hog (stack it up)
Smash Ace
7-3 isn't unwinnable... do you guys even know ratios? lol
It means sheik wins the match 7 times out of 10 on those stages if both players are of the same skill and experience.
It means sheik wins the match 7 times out of 10 on those stages if both players are of the same skill and experience.
Dorsey
Banned via Warnings
actually, ratios don't mean that in this sense exactly. 7:3 means that shiek has a 70% chance of winning EACH match, not that the end result will be 7 vs 3. In essence, you're also saying that sheik is twice as much capable to beat marth than marth is to beat sheik (1 : 3/7).....which I gotta disagree with! I'm open to the possibility of sheik being a little better but not by that much.
example of what i mean: lets say marth has a 90/10 advantage on kirby. Do you think kirby will win 1 out of every 10 matches? Extremely doubtful. Because it's not the end result, it's kirby going into each match with 10% chance of winning, as a character.
example of what i mean: lets say marth has a 90/10 advantage on kirby. Do you think kirby will win 1 out of every 10 matches? Extremely doubtful. Because it's not the end result, it's kirby going into each match with 10% chance of winning, as a character.
R3N0
Smash Lord
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its hard for marth to kill sheik after 90%. if the sheik doesn't get fsmash spammed, marth can't "combo" into a death move.
sheik can just ***** whip marth at any percentage with dthrow fair / dthrow usmash / dthrow anything.
its a hard match for marth. but maybe not 7:3, i wanna say 65:35
sheik can just ***** whip marth at any percentage with dthrow fair / dthrow usmash / dthrow anything.
its a hard match for marth. but maybe not 7:3, i wanna say 65:35
Rawfuls
Smash Journeyman
A good marth player should never let sheik get that high to start with. not that it never happens, but as a marth player i know im aiming to gimp a sheik long before 90 percent. Not trying to imply his lack of killing ability at igh percents is a complete non issue, but i think you're putting more emphasis on it than it deserves. On that note i would agree to 6:4 in sheiks favor but definately not 7:3.
Sheik has a great recovery that is going to make things harder, even for Marth, to edgeguard, so I think it stands to say that Sheik should have the matchup 60:40 or maybe even 65:35.
And what Dorsey said about the ratios.
And lol sup Reno bro.
And what Dorsey said about the ratios.
And lol sup Reno bro.
You know how it is man, doin the Catfish combos to fools and all the good stuff. =p
On topic: what are the thoughts about Marth vs Fox? Even or not? I have mixed feelings on this matchup. Marth only needs one grab for his kills, but Fox can easily get around Marth's range with his speed and combo/gimp him pretty well.
On topic: what are the thoughts about Marth vs Fox? Even or not? I have mixed feelings on this matchup. Marth only needs one grab for his kills, but Fox can easily get around Marth's range with his speed and combo/gimp him pretty well.
Foxy
Smash Master
Marth vs Fox is a pure momentum match.
Stupid combos and gimps all over the place, miss your spacing once and you lose a stock.
Well, usually.
Stupid combos and gimps all over the place, miss your spacing once and you lose a stock.
Well, usually.
R3N0
Smash Lord
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if marth has 1st stock.. marth should be able to ledge / edge camp w/ grabbing..
however it depends on how aggressive the fox is.. if its campy.. and good at it marth has no chance.
but if marth gets close enough, marth has 0-death grab kill combo, so there should be no excuse. overall still in fox's favor. imo.
however it depends on how aggressive the fox is.. if its campy.. and good at it marth has no chance.
but if marth gets close enough, marth has 0-death grab kill combo, so there should be no excuse. overall still in fox's favor. imo.
Scar
#HarveyDent
a) never heard of you
b) haven't lost any tourney set to a non-chu ICs player in foreverish
also if you're an IC player and you play against someone like me in friendlies i'm not going to camp/space the **** out of you, it's a pretty miserable exercise that i reserve for tourney play (and i don't think it's quite a stretch to imagine others do too)
sooooooo yeah unless i played you in tourney at some point within this year and you almost beat me this statement is basically entirely misleading
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
lol THank you scar. He's an arrogant prick. XD
Boss Hog (stack it up)
Smash Ace
uh doesn't that mean the same thing?
If you play 10 matches, with somebody having a 10% chance to win each match... wouldn't that mean he SHOULD win 1 of the matches? Yeah....
Foxy
Smash Master
i'm pretty sure he knows he didn't seriously beat you. xD
Umm, hey Scar, you should go to HERB 2. It'll be good.
@ Boss Hog: No because it's a 10% chance every match. Just doing more matches doesn't suddenly raise your odds.
@ Boss Hog: No because it's a 10% chance every match. Just doing more matches doesn't suddenly raise your odds.
Vilt
Smash Lord
Are PR changing after Rawfulz and since Mike is leaving.
Hmm....that'll be third tournament after last update....and it IS Mask....
I'm gonna push for waiting longer for updates after this, but I think this is a good idea.
I'm gonna push for waiting longer for updates after this, but I think this is a good idea.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
scar said he's not coming to herb2 because last herb has a low melee turnout
same with pakman
same with pakman
-ACE-
Gotem City Vigilante
That's only because it was Vilt's first huge tournament. Not showing up doesn't really fix the low turnout problem lol (my logic owns). Plus Scar knows there's a slim chance he'll take first with m2k there lol
stingers
Smash Obsessed
well you tell him that but as it stands he won't be here
which will decrease overall attendance a ****load...
which will decrease overall attendance a ****load...
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Gotem City Vigilante
He'll read it, he obviously trolls here on occasion lol
Boss Hog (stack it up)
Smash Ace
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Gotem City Vigilante
You're over-analyzing this. Smash doesn't really work with basic odds, because the ratios are not definite. It's more of a general outline based on common knowledge and tourney results (partially opinion-based). There are just too many other factors that come into play for someone to take such ratios in a literal sense.
Awesome, no HERB tourney with amazing turnout due to people canceling that we had no control over. Weeeeeee
What Ace said.
What Ace said.
Boss Hog (stack it up)
Smash Ace
says the ganon player who agreed to a tournament match on hyrule temple
edit; also, how am I OVER-analyzing something by using BASIC odds as my argument?
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Gotem City Vigilante
Oh, so you think I was trying to diss you now. That's cute, really. You know nothing about the circumstances of that situation (among other things), so do yourself a favor and forget about it
Boss Hog (stack it up)
Smash Ace
when did I say anything about you dissing me?
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Gotem City Vigilante
Lol... I already answered this. Read my post again.
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Gotem City Vigilante
Your post was obviously out of retaliation. I'm not here to argue lol
Boss Hog (stack it up)
Smash Ace
you obviously don't know how I work as a person/poster if you think I'm serious lol
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Gotem City Vigilante
Too good
Foxy
Smash Master
ganon's d!ck is tasty.
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