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Why would you ever roll dodge with ZSS so much, you are not pit/lucario.
Serious question?
Run - Power shield - Run - Power shield - and then when you're close enough either do like an f-tilt or grab.
I thought my shielding and dodging of the arrows was pretty good. Using ZSS' grab is asking to get punishment, especially against Pit. He's really good at pulling out of attacks, and her grab has lag all over it, so... yeah. D:
If you keep a constant dodging style, you run the risk of becoming predictable.
True, but predicting a powershield will get your opponent nowhere; they may know you'll do it, but the technique is designed not to be punishable. Furthermore, PSing is a means of benefiting from prediction. So if your opponent predicts that you're going to predict him and punish him, then he shouldn't be doing what he's doing anyway.
I have to disagree with you there...
top 6 forward rolls in the game...K Prime's thread said:
Her forward roll true, however normally forward rolling gets you killed, at least it should, some people get
by it, though.Depends how you put him in the air. You can Dsmash stun him if he is under a platform, too.Ehhh darkwater, once ZSS gets pit in the air she is in a very good spot, its mostly the pain of his ground defense especially if he is under a platform that cause's all the problems, part of the problem is that pit is pretty much the easiest character in the game and when you have a hard time fighting that it can be pretty annoying, read Ky in GG:Isuka there is a reason why everyone still curses him.
Her forward roll true, however normally forward rolling gets you killed, at least it should, some people get
You need to be more aggressive. There were instances you could have killed with Fsmash KO'd.:O Work on your SideB and Neutral B spacing.
If you know how to space the SideB on him you out everything he has including his counter. But, yeah, you Dsmash stun'd him when he was really high in %. You could have followed that with Fsmash since he was level with you.
if you spam side b it becomes predictable, and can be punished, trust me I used to think side b was zss's best move and after seeing how many options she has BESIDES side b, I tend not to spam it as much (at least I try not to) I'm just learning how to get more and more creative with zss, and I'm having sooooo much fun with it.
Example One: Snake cannot DI out of a D-Tilt following a D-Smash at low percentages.
Umm, I was kinda scared fighting him. I got out of the habit of double downsmashing because I used to do it on instinct, and get punished when the first one hit the shield. /fail It seems to help me in those matches though. (Chops is scary with his pressure sometimes. -.-)
Yeah, I know about the cypher thing. Sometimes when I follow him, he randomly bairs or uairs, so I'm cautious vs. him.Match 2, 1:34. I am stealing that so hard. I seriously thought "wait, no d-smash?" after the jabs, and then I noticed the down+B's hop and went "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH." Still watching the other vids, but that particular part was crazy o_0
Only other things I've noticed were maybe not reading a Cypher airdodge early in game 2. The initial jump should've been enough to coax him into air-dodging, then with that read and correct timing, you could've nailed the fair you went for. You would've put Snake into an even worse position (an awkwardly spaced/timed Cypher) with more damage, but instead Snake got back to the stage and got a jab-ftilt in
Game 1...Your armor play seemed pretty weak, but my opinion on that changed in game 2.
K I've typed too much and I really want to watch the rest, very impressive and creative play
Also, who put Rainbow Road on their FD? That song only fits on Rainbow Cruise >_>
Yeah... I learned how to SDI it FINALLY sometime during the second set. -.- That move owns my soul.
You shouldn't count on D-Smash > D-Smash > F-Air, as it's SDI-able and unreliable. Sorry, I wasn't thinking clearly or something when I typed my previous response. Or it's plausible that you misinterpreted my text. Either way, D-Tilt > D-Smash does in fact work at low percentages unless the Snake player jumps.
Wooooord. I'm nominating this one in the best vids of each character thread. Basically every KO in this match was brilliant, and aside from all that Snake grenade nonsense in the first stock, there are very few major mistakes.
