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The Most Controversial Thread on the Site! (Originally the Anti-Lucario/Pro Squirtle)

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Bassoonist

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Everyone on here said that Squirtle wouldn't make it.

Wow.

Anyways this DOESN'T DISPROVE Lucario. At least I don't think it does.
 

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^_^ Yay Squirtle, I'm really really really pleasantly surprised with this update and quite happy with it. I really don't think this lessons Lucario's chances of being in because imo it would be a foolish mistake not to have the 4th generation of pokemon rep'd
 

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HAHA!! I'm guessing sandman was a squirtle supporter...Good on ya Sandman!!

I've been Charizards #1 fan from the beginning. Looks like a good team. Don't think Ivy was on anyones list though lol

Saki a the team is brilliant
None of them were on mine. But of all of them Ivysaur's my fave (if they'd had Blastoise or Charmeleon, then it might've been a different story).

All I've got to say is, I like how unique this idea is, and it bodes well for whatever other surprises Sakurai has. . . but I don't like Red. He's ugly. And I don't like the lack of newer gen pokemon we've seen so far. I still think including only first gen pokemon would be a bad move. We'll have to wait and see who else (if anyone) makes it in.
 

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Final Smash, they all evolve to their final form and blast the stage.(minus charizard)
 

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But you know, that completely erases the dilemma of "which starter is better" which prevented a starter from being playable.
Actually, it's a trilemma.

... please don't take away a slot from Lucario or Gardevoir, awesome character addition. ;_;
 

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None of them were on mine. But of all of them Ivysaur's my fave (if they'd had Blastoise or Charmeleon, then it might've been a different story).

All I've got to say is, I like how unique this idea is, and it bodes well for whatever other surprises Sakurai has. . . but I don't like Red. He's ugly. And I don't like the lack of newer gen pokemon we've seen so far. I still think including only first gen pokemon would be a bad move. We'll have to wait and see who else (if anyone) makes it in.
All I gotta say is....wow.

I've NEVER, EVER expected SQUIRTLE would actually make it.
 

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No ****ing way. I enjoyed this thread when I first read it for its honest humor, but I never thought that it'd actually become a reality.
 

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I guess this thread wins?

Never would have guess.. Was hoping for Lucario even though I didn't care all that much for him. I never even gave a thought about the Pokemon Trainer.. not a "hmm a reason could be" it was just a flat out no for me.. Wow..

And wel even get 3 pokemon along with him..
 

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Lucario has a chance of getting in Brawl as a C.Falcon with projectiles. Squirtle on the other hand (needs a better moveset), would just be a Bowser after a Poison Mushroom, Swampert is a better water poke choice for a brawl character. Also, you forget that Lucario is popular , not in your eyes, but most people who play smash have played pokemon and thus, a greater chance of Lucario in brawl because that's what fans want, you also forget Lucario has more moves than that.

P.S- Out of all of the Water pokes, why Squirtle? If you've played pokemon past that gen, then you know Squirtle isn't popular now.
 
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Lucario has a chance of getting in Brawl as a C.Falcon with projectiles. Squirtle on the other hand (needs a better moveset), would just be a Bowser after a Poison Mushroom, Swampert is a better water poke choice for a brawl character. Also, you forget that Lucario is popular , not in your eyes, but most people who play smash have played pokemon and thus, a greater chance of Lucario in brawl because that's what fans want, you also forget Lucario has more moves than that.

P.S- Out of all of the Water pokes, why Squirtle? If you've played pokemon past that gen, then you know Squirtle isn't popular now.
Your being sarcastic right?
 

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Um,.... Ilovecelebi!!numbers, your sig is frightening. I trhink you're on my creepy list.

And Squirtle is awesome, it's like I've always said "You haven't unlocked anything in Melee until you have the Squirtle Trophy."
 

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I WAS WITH HIM FROM THE START YOU NAYSAYERS!

Put that in your pipe and smoke it! *SHAKES FIST*
Same here!!!

Lol, this is what I have been waiting for. SOMETHING related to pokemon characters on the site AND completely unique-to-the-pokey-games characters.
 

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Well even though pro-squirtle fans "won", those who said it was unlikely were STILL right: Squirtle does NOT have what it takes for a complete playable character. That cannot be denied, and Sakurai using him in a 3-pokemon team that has to be switched out occassionally to keep effective is proof of that. :p
 

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Well even though pro-squirtle fans "won", those who said it was unlikely were STILL right: Squirtle does NOT have what it takes for a complete playable character. That cannot be denied, and Sakurai using him in a 3-pokemon team that has to be switched out occassionally to keep effective is proof of that. :p
He is about as much of a character as Sheik is. He has his OWN model, move-set, animations, stats and so on so yea, he is a complete character (there is must likely just as much time put in him as any other character without a stage) . . . he only leaks a Bv.:p

Im gone for tonight, yall take care.
 

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Unlike Sheik, though, there's a limited time you can use Squirtle until you have to switch. Who knows what happens if you don't switch, but the consequences are probably bad.
 

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exactly.

don't even try rationalizing it, blacklight. when you win a match, it's Pokemon Trainer who gets the win, not Squirtle. They are nothing more than living special attacks for Red. :p
 

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Sorry but....


ROFL @ SANDMAN.

Even if you want to think this makes squirtle a "playable character" which technically he isn't because he is not on the character list, it is still probably the lamest possible way you could get to use squirtle lmao.
 

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Sorry but....


ROFL @ SANDMAN.

Even if you want to think this makes squirtle a "playable character" which technically he isn't because he is not on the character list, it is still probably the lamest possible way you could get to use squirtle lmao.
Sorry but why do you seeming insist on making ******** posts? Squirtle is a playable character in the way that you can play him, as a character. Hence the term, playable character. Realistically it is also pretty much the only way that squirtle would ever become playable without going into scenarios which are incredibly unlikely (such as his own character) and so while you may think it's the "lamest way possible" I think this is a good thing for squirtle since you can play as him, as well as Ivysaur and Charizard, without each of them taking up a slot on the character list.
 

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The pokemon selection is considered an attack

that in itself if the lamest possible way you could play him. And "playable character" in Smash Bros. jargon refers to a selectable characters.

the three pokemon are virtually just attacks that trainer uses.
 

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Independently Squirtle is weak, hence why you rotate through all three pokemon.

that in itself if the lamest possible way you could play him. And "playable character" in Smash Bros. jargon refers to a selectable characters.

the three pokemon are virtually just attacks that trainer uses.
Squirtle could be strong for all you know, you haven't played the game yet. Then again he might be fast with good projectiles and kicks *** against people with a weakness to ranged attacks. There's obviously benefits to playing as him otherwise Sakurai wouldn't force you out of playing him for too long.

By your logic, Sheik wasn't a playable character in Melee. I beg to differ.

The trainer has 3 separate movesets depending on which Pokemon he is using, and thus if they were "just attacks that the trainer uses" then each one would be assigned to a different move like many of the Red movesets that people made. However since each one is different, they're all technically playable characters linked into one gigantic moveset by the non-playable playable character, the PT.
 

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The pokemon selection is considered an attack

that in itself if the lamest possible way you could play him. And "playable character" in Smash Bros. jargon refers to a selectable characters.

the three pokemon are virtually just attacks that trainer uses.
thats lame.......... thats like saying sheik is a lesser character for being shared.......
 

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Agree to disagree. And yes, I do not consider Sheik a playable character independently.

thats lame.......... thats like saying sheik is a lesser character for being shared.......
No...that isn't like saying that. Sheik is just Zelda transformed.
 

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I hope you're happy Sandman. You not only got Squirtle, but also Ivysaur and Charizard.

Not that I'm complaining.:grin:
 

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Agree to disagree. And yes, I do not consider Sheik a playable character independently.



No...that isn't like saying that. Sheik is just Zelda transformed.
he'll have the same amount of moves as everyone else in the game -1 special :| thats pretty **** good...
 

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*Looks at thread name*Well,this confirms Squirtle and kind of hurts Lucario chances,so the author of this thread should be thrilled! Also,Ivysaur,Squirtle,and Charizard are three separate characters,not just attacks.
 

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*Looks at thread name*Well,this confirms Squirtle and kind of hurts Lucario chances,so the author of this thread should be thrilled! Also,Ivysaur,Squirtle,and Charizard are three separate characters,not just attacks.
I'd say this hurts Jiggs and Mewtwo's chances more than Lucario. Ivy, Squirt, and Char(too lazy to right it all out) are all first gen. And i'm sure all the pokemon aren't going to be from the first gen.
 

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I say Lucario probably isn't going to be in the game now. I can't believe you guys were actually right. XD

I never would've expected Squirtle to be playable.
 

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Hey, look! We all got our wish more or less...Charizard, Ivysaur, and Squirtle are all playable in a sense.

Lucario's chances = ???....
 
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