The Metal Discussion (Come in here for the chugga chuzz of the br00tal metal)

[Luigitoilet]

EDIT FOR THIS NEW TONY DANZA SONG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36NNnUbMQY0

holy **** that's sick. that main riff is catchy as hell.

@Rubyiris:

that's a pretty weird opinion no offense. hell, I even thought their latest album was pretty dang good, and Nightfall in Middle Earth blows the three you mentioned out of the water to my ears. I love Imaginations though don't get me wrong. I don't particularly think they often put out "unlistenable" material but a lot of it isn't genius I'll admit.

hey on that note, anyone remember Demons and Wizards, that super group made up of Iced Earth with Hansi vocals? that one album is pretty amazing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGMx0YkeTFQ

@Xyzz

I didn't really like A Night at the Opera, but the original mix/recording of And Then There Was Silence is tied for my favorite BG song along with Nightfall. It has one of the most satisfying end buildup and releases out of any metal song I've ever heard. I really don't mind the overproduction on BG's material particularly on the vocals. That hundreds of vocal layers/harmonies thing is cheesy as hell but it gets me every time. I do wish they would "modernize" their guitar tones a little bit though. They also completely ruined many parts of this song when they re-recorded it in like 2011 I think?

 

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[Xyzz]

Imaginations is my favourite BG album as well, although I am probably biased as hell, because it was the album that got me into metal (awww... the wait for NIME. At that time I was still pretty excitable :D).
I don't really have preferences amongst their other albums, but I do think that BoF / FtB sound a lot better when the songs are produced a bit better, the only thing I really like when underproduced is black metal. In other cases I highly prefer it, when the instruments / vocals sound more "fat", but well... during the 80s there still was a difference between a 10k and 2million euro studio (there really isn't anymore, the 10k still make a difference towards lower regions, but from there onwards its pretty exclusively about the guys doing the producing knowing how to do a good job).

Oh, and I loved the layering on NIME. ANATO just doesn't have interesting melodies for me, apart from a select few (the original "and then there was silence" for example). With their earlier releases there isn't a single non enjoyable song.

 

[Rubyiris]

The layering and overproduction is the exact reason why bg is unlistenable.

The more stripped away, raw sound of the early productions of imaginations, and their first two albums show their ability to write very solid metal without gimmicks.

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[Luigitoilet]

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Vote for me please :D

No. **** off with this crap.

 

[Xyzz]

I am fine with layering. Provided the underlying melody is still good, it's just an artistic device. The problem is when there's no real substance just layers of layers of banal stuff I don't care about.
Actually just about everything we hear that's not produced in somebody's (the spelling stuff is horribly wrong here, right?) garage has some layering, since it just sounds better, if there's more than the actual recording of a single instrument. I find this rather amusing, how you can make two tracks of the same guitar sound like one guitar that just sounds better by doing some pitch shifting / delay :D

 

[Rubyiris]

Except that bg ruins their music with overproduction

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[Get Low]

So, I just listened to Periphery 2 for the first time.
I love their style, but when you're listening to it for an hour straight, it becomes monotonous toward the end.
The cleans are very pleasant to the ear, and are pulled off better than most attempts I've heard by other djent bands.
I think I'll end up giving it quite a few listens, but I hope they make their future albums shorter.

 

[Roboturner]

The reason it's long is because they wanted to make two albums after the first Periphery. A normal album and a concept album. They then realized that was stupid and just combined the two albums (Muramasa, Ragnarok, and Masamune being the concept songs).

I love the new Periphery. Every song is great to me, although I wish they had more songs like Have a Blast.

 

[Luigitoilet]

I just discovered some cool bands

Giant Squid sort of this progressive post-rock indie rock metal (??). idk, it's interesting though and actually kind of accessible even though the music goes in very different places. kinda Mastodon-ish but more atmospheric http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izCFMYWuVps

Unexpect is a band my bandmates have been really nagging on me to listen to so I finally did and I'm kicking myself. It's so up my alley. They are kind of like Diablo Swing Orchestra but way more interesting, exciting, heavy, etc and more all over the place. basically they are what I wish DSO was when I first heard them.

http://youtu.be/xwbEi1JRa7w

NOK NOVUM is ****. Acid jazz fusion tech metal. http://noknovum.bandcamp.com/album/nok-novum

also a new BTBAM production video thing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFaS8UCXF8E guitar leads are sounding really tasty especially Dusty's parts. he dont get enough credit

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Giant Squid sort of this progressive post-rock indie rock metal (??). idk, it's interesting though and actually kind of accessible even though the music goes in very different places. kinda Mastodon-ish but more atmospheric http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izCFMYWuVps

Well damn, this is great

 

[Geist]

Aha I've totally posted giant squid and unexpect here before lmao
I love those guys

I wanna check out more of those nok novum guys

 

[Luigitoilet]

Aha I've totally posted giant squid and unexpect here before lmao
I love those guys

I wanna check out more of those nok novum guys

well gee aren't you cool.

I think I've kinda avoided Unexpect because their name is really boring especially compared to the music. I found Giant Squid through Spotify listening to Witch Mountain and they were a related artist.

 

[Geist]

Yeah I just needed to legitimatize my indie street cred there :b
Also those frenchie black metal guys Blut Aus Nord have their new album streaming in all sorts of places http://obskuremag.bandcamp.com/album/cosmosophy
Just kinda remembered because Unexpect are also frenchies. French Canadian though


I can't remember if I posted this, but I ran across this awesome post rock/metal band, a lot like Russian Circles called '*Shels', and anybody who likes post-whatever should really get their hands on the album 'Plains of the Purple Buffalo'.

 

[Roboturner]

Parallax II leaked

 

[Luigitoilet]

PM me if you're not just going off of hearsay because hearsay is all I can find.

edit: actually, nvm...I think. this is not downloading fast enough. I hope I'm not gonna be disappointed.

 

[the melon!!!!!]

Parallax II leaked

Listening to it now, I'm on The Black Box right now, haven't stopped drooling since the start. Its a good one, guys. Its a good one.

 

[Luigitoilet]

Welp, that just topped my favorite albums of the year list. I'm honestly awestruck. This album had me feeling the same way I did the first time I listened to Colors and at the same time, it almost makes Colors feel irrelevant. That's something I never thought I'd say, let alone about BTBAM after they made TGM and Parallax 1. I disliked Parallax 1 and thought Great Misdirect was just okay but this feels like a TRUE progression. It's recognizably BTBAM but it is almost never going through the motions of a BTBAM album (Telos excluded, and I think that is the weakest track) and its scope of ambition is so beyond the past two albums that it feels like a new, different band as well. It blew me away and the first playthrough hit me harder than any other metal/core release I've heard this year. I just might have just become a BTBAM fanboy again.

 

[Get Low]

Are there breakdowns in the new BTBAM album?

 

[Roboturner]

Why does that matter? BTBAM have always had their heavy parts

 

[Get Low]

I love when bands that are very technical/experimental incorporate breakdowns into their music (as BTBAM did in their earlier albums), because it's a nice refreshment from stale deathcore. But when these bands start focusing more on the musical aspects and ditch the breakdowns, it just becomes monotonous and boring to me.

 

[the melon!!!!!]

I love when bands that are very technical/experimental incorporate breakdowns into their music (as BTBAM did in their earlier albums), because it's a nice refreshment from stale deathcore. But when these bands start focusing more on the musical aspects and ditch the breakdowns, it just becomes monotonous and boring to me.

...wait.


....hold on a sec.


....seriously.

Nah, but seriously, it does have a few chugging moments in it you might enjoy, especially in Lay Your Ghosts To Rest.

 

[Luigitoilet]

Are there breakdowns in the new BTBAM album?

No. Maybe one or two. From your other post I'm going to say this album isn't for you. It's far from monotnous though, they've just replaced breakdowns with literally everything else under the sun

 

[Roboturner]

The bass drop at around 7 minutes in Telos is ****ing epic and heavy

 

[Lore]

Blah blah blah don't post a link to the leak blah blah blah.

That being said, I have a question for those who have listened to it. Is the mixing as good as Colors? Colors is the only BTBAM album that I've listened to (which is odd since I loved it so much. Heck, I own a physical copy), and the mixing was just sooo freaking good imo.

 

[Roboturner]

Yeah the mixing is good, but I'm just waiting for an actual CD rip because the 1 second of silence between each song is really annoying.

I'm pretty sure they turned Dan Briggs way up on this album because his bass has the best tone ever

 

[Geist]

it's common for these leaks to be lower quality production than the actual thing is when it's released, for example Baroness's Yellow/Green sounded way way better on the CD than it did on the leak I got my hands on a week or so prior to its release. But I'd say the leak sounds pretty good. I found mine at 320 kb/s

Colors was my favorite album of theirs but this could possibly overtake it.
I have to listen to it more. It's just really good. Seriously.

 

[Jane]

good to see all the positive reviews of parallax 2, because i was seriously underwhelmed by part 1. i'm gonna wait until the official release though, does anyone know when that is?

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

October 9th

 

[The Ben]

New Sonne Adam is crushingly heavy. I know this is probably not many people's cup o' tea but it seriously rules.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uGYl8K6VJk

 

[Luigitoilet]

Blah blah blah don't post a link to the leak blah blah blah.

That being said, I have a question for those who have listened to it. Is the mixing as good as Colors? Colors is the only BTBAM album that I've listened to (which is odd since I loved it so much. Heck, I own a physical copy), and the mixing was just sooo freaking good imo.

here is a whole bunch of words about Parallax2:

Mixing is pretty great even on the rip. I think everything here is comparable to Colors and The Great Misdirect. I'm not crazy about the compression on the clean vocals during the heavier parts but I think he sounds wonderful in the more quiet and intimate moments of the album. I'm really not a fan of that epic power metal singing style too much on this album, and I think was bugs me about it is just how overbearingly mixed it is over the instruments.

This album is markedly different territory in many ways from those albums especially as far as layering and harmonies go. It's especially good compared to Parallax 1 which to me had really terrible mastering and mixing.

Also "Bloom" is a genuine contender for my favorite song on the album. It is just SO WEIRD. It's just such an unabashed Mike Patton/**** Dale/Beach Boys/Dillinger Escape Plan funfest and it makes me happy to see that the band is still capable of making an interesting song without it needing to be 7-15 minutes long.

This album is going to take a long time to digest. It's almost too much music if that makes any sense, and I find myself mentally worn out about 80% of the way through and honestly everything just runs together more or less like Colors did. I'm also glad they didn't end the album with that same epic buildup to ridiculous breakdown thing they did in Colors and TGM and the last song is not comparable to any of the other album closers.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

I actually liked the clean vocals on Parallax 2 moreso than other albums. I liked the kind of weird, spacey feel that they have.

Also, I didn't find the clean vocals nearly as obnoxious as power metal highs.

 

[the melon!!!!!]

I actually liked the clean vocals on Parallax 2 moreso than other albums. I liked the kind of weird, spacey feel that they have.

Also, I didn't find the clean vocals nearly as obnoxious as power metal highs.

I agree, I think it actually works well! While, production wise, I definitely see where LT is coming from, I don't think it takes away from the album at all.

Overall, I think my favorite part of this album is either Bloom, Lay your Ghosts To Rest, or Astral Body. Astral Body's intro just kicks SOOOOOOO much ***. I also love what Dan did on bass this album, some of the riffs are just awesome sounding, especially the fretless fun he throws in on some of the songs.

 

[Psychoace]

New Sonne Adam is crushingly heavy. I know this is probably not many people's cup o' tea but it seriously rules.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uGYl8K6VJk

Thanks for that man, ****s dank. \M/

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Astral Body's intro just kicks SOOOOOOO much ***.

It was at that moment where I realized "This is going to be a good one"

 

[Luigitoilet]

I love Astral Body because of how happy it sounds. I love happy metal with harsh vocals.

I'm also at a loss at how the hell they are going to play this thing live.

 

[Yodery]

lol @ metal. I guess it's cool... if you're 12 and want to piss off mommy and daddy, but otherwise, it's the laughing stock of music.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

So I found this article about the Parallax story. Blew my mind.

 

[Luigitoilet]

lol @ metal. I guess it's cool... if you're 12 and want to piss off mommy and daddy, but otherwise, it's the laughing stock of music.

yeah, well, that's just like, your opinion, man.

I personally think it's dumb to think in genres. If I avoided certain genres because of some imagined perception of what I thought its fanbase was I would not have found so much of my favorite music. genres are just a blockade, honestly. Different people listen to and play metal for thousands of different reasons, just like any other genre of music, and the result is a wide variety of sounds and to throw them all under one singular label is...well, pretty ********.

 

[DerpDaBerp]

And all that without even speaking toward a super delusional image that there are credible people somewhere who enjoy sitting around laughing at the idea of metal, sipping mint juleps and trolling forums