Mekos
Smash Master
Also note that that tourney is Japanese ruleset with no Dave's stupid rule. So he took me to Yoshi's island twice. That stage sucks for us 
. Huge advantage.
. Huge advantage.
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The Lucas General Discussion
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BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
I don't have any recorded, the ones I have are like a year old and they're terrible!
~Pink Fresh~
Smash Master
Yes.
I've played Stingers and Chibo, though not recently.J I look forward to your insight...
@PF - The matchup isn't hard? Wth. Maybe you mean the players you have played aren't hard haha
Rob has all the tools to **** Lucas. He out ranges us. With my smarts and a mastery of Rob I would **** a lucas once off the stage.
*shrugs* I only find like 3 MUs hard. Everything else is player based
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
Just watched the Lucas vs ROB video (mekos) and is it just me or does the thing that floats up on Yoshi's Island tend to get us killed more?
It always picked me up and gets me smashed or takes my PKT. xD
It always picked me up and gets me smashed or takes my PKT. xD
Mekos
Smash Master
haha I'm with u buddy! Prob killed more. Get's me by surprise!!
@PF - Yea I slaughter Rob's too but I know the MU is still in there favor. It just means we are the better player. Stingers is the only Rob to come close because he has played me alot and he is smart. He is adapting to my playstyle. And yea he gets better. His skill doesn't stay stagnant.
Only three matchups hard!? Dude I find mk, pika, ice-climbers, DK, Marth, lucario, Wario, Snake, ZSS, Falco, etc all hard at the highest level of play.
I'm like the opposite with u. I probably find like only 3 matchups not hard. -_____-
Ganon, Luigi, Mario.
@PF - Yea I slaughter Rob's too but I know the MU is still in there favor. It just means we are the better player. Stingers is the only Rob to come close because he has played me alot and he is smart. He is adapting to my playstyle. And yea he gets better. His skill doesn't stay stagnant.
Only three matchups hard!? Dude I find mk, pika, ice-climbers, DK, Marth, lucario, Wario, Snake, ZSS, Falco, etc all hard at the highest level of play.
I'm like the opposite with u. I probably find like only 3 matchups not hard. -_____-
Ganon, Luigi, Mario.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
pf i was playing sooooooo bad at apex. /johns
do u still play?
do u still play?
Jamwa
Smash Champion
I get you now
you mean they show off their imbaness (AW YEAH IM SO PUNNY) and you have to somehow beat them and 'understand' the feeling of the character before everyone says that characters bad.
Havent versed a rob, but i imagine fair>dtilt lock would happen often coz of his size and bad bounce animation or w/e
~Pink Fresh~
Smash Master
Well, hard as in feel like they can't be won no matter how well I play.haha I'm with u buddy! Prob killed more. Get's me by surprise!!
@PF - Yea I slaughter Rob's too but I know the MU is still in there favor. It just means we are the better player. Stingers is the only Rob to come close because he has played me alot and he is smart. He is adapting to my playstyle. And yea he gets better. His skill doesn't stay stagnant.
Only three matchups hard!? Dude I find mk, pika, ice-climbers, DK, Marth, lucario, Wario, Snake, ZSS, Falco, etc all hard at the highest level of play.
I'm like the opposite with u. I probably find like only 3 matchups not hard. -_____-
Ganon, Luigi, Mario.
We just play a bad character, so everything seems more difficult to us haha.
I just started again like a month ago. :o
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
I have 0 bad matchups in that case if they're "unwinnable"
But I do find it hard to fight Ganondorf, Zelda, L- wait no
Marth, ROB (Sometimes, I see how to do it now because Mekos video), Perkilachu, Falco sometimes, DK if he's that guy who grabs, uhmmm... Olimar is annoying, Snake, and that's about it. Everyone else it's whoever can win.
Any tips vs Ganon though? I beat him but I wanna know how to play vs him, it'd be embarassing being beat at Apex vs Ganon ;_;
I don't think he's AS bad as people say he is, probably 2-3 places higher on the tier list imo.
But I do find it hard to fight Ganondorf, Zelda, L- wait no
Marth, ROB (Sometimes, I see how to do it now because Mekos video), Perkilachu, Falco sometimes, DK if he's that guy who grabs, uhmmm... Olimar is annoying, Snake, and that's about it. Everyone else it's whoever can win.
Any tips vs Ganon though? I beat him but I wanna know how to play vs him, it'd be embarassing being beat at Apex vs Ganon ;_;
I don't think he's AS bad as people say he is, probably 2-3 places higher on the tier list imo.
FightAdamantEevee
Smash Lord
Mekos
Smash Master
@Fae I don't consider zelda or sheik an individual character haha. Zelda's can turn into sheiks! Ahhh
@PF - Ah now I understand. Hard = unwinnable to u. Gotcha bro
@BlueBerry - I love u bro! I'm the same. I have 0 bad matchups by that definition. We can achieve anything! woohoo! Lets go!
@PF - Ah now I understand. Hard = unwinnable to u. Gotcha bro
@BlueBerry - I love u bro! I'm the same. I have 0 bad matchups by that definition. We can achieve anything! woohoo! Lets go!
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
Lucas mains gotta share the love!
One thing I like about Lucas mains is we all have to put a ton of effort into winning, it makes us really strong and smart players in the longrun I think...
Love the Lucas/Ness community both, let's all stick together and get Lucas higher in the tier, and hopefully next smash we'll all play together as well.
On a side note, Zelda is a troll, I just camp her she has no offense.
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCA9vKLRDA4&list=UUp-6iKsb-dmrM3INRt9sU1g&index=6&feature=plcp
Someone please explain this to me, I've been trying to do it, maybe I'm not buffering (Don't know how)
I just don't know what I'm doing wrong, I've done it once out of like 100 tries, but I don't see the exact timing, which I'd like someone to help me with if possible.
Someone please explain this to me, I've been trying to do it, maybe I'm not buffering (Don't know how)
I just don't know what I'm doing wrong, I've done it once out of like 100 tries, but I don't see the exact timing, which I'd like someone to help me with if possible.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
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Jamwa
Smash Champion
The videos instructions at the start pretty much tell you how to do it. buffer a jump, hold it, then airdodge frame 1 and zair frame 2.
its really tricky, i cant do it either. zap jump lyfe
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
I've been practicing it, you just gotta have timing and the airdodge is where I have the problem, I can do it like 10-15% of the time if I try.
The instructions are good but it's hard to do even with them lol.
The instructions are good but it's hard to do even with them lol.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
that is so cool, i never knew you could zap jump with zair. mekos why dont you do that?
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
It's a lot harder, and... it's really unreliable I think.
Zap Jumping isn't as strict with timing, and you don't have to press as many buttons lol.
Zap Jumping isn't as strict with timing, and you don't have to press as many buttons lol.
Alberto1866
Smash Journeyman
Do you guys use two fingers for zap jumping(index on b and muddle on jump) or just use your thumb for both?
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
I press X, and use my C Stick, and I also use L/C Stick depending on which direction I'm going so I can magnet pull.
Alberto1866
Smash Journeyman
Right, I forgot about setting c-stick to b.
Luco
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I use wiichuk so I press side-b and c at the same time (c on a nunchuk is an extra jump button). Unfortunately my timing is still iffy and while I am getting better at it, I find it very unreliable in real matches, preferring item jumps.
But that's not what I jumped in to say.
So, first off, i'm in the desert and have limited internet connection.... long story. It's good to say hi though. :D
A couple of things i've been practicing are reverse attacks. These are instances where I turn around before using the special, like running, jumping, using PK freeze and having the momentum carry my lucas in the other direction. This also allows for longer periods of running before doing a turn-around PK fire.
My most exciting piece of news... I just found out that Duon is Lucas's best boss... by far. I never knew you could HEAL from him! It's awesome. On that news i've been wondering... would it be okay if I started a new thread that outlined Lucas's performance in other Brawl modes? Just as a guide. He's good enough in quite a few sectors to be considered notable. ^^
But that's not what I jumped in to say.
So, first off, i'm in the desert and have limited internet connection.... long story. It's good to say hi though. :D
A couple of things i've been practicing are reverse attacks. These are instances where I turn around before using the special, like running, jumping, using PK freeze and having the momentum carry my lucas in the other direction. This also allows for longer periods of running before doing a turn-around PK fire.
My most exciting piece of news... I just found out that Duon is Lucas's best boss... by far. I never knew you could HEAL from him! It's awesome. On that news i've been wondering... would it be okay if I started a new thread that outlined Lucas's performance in other Brawl modes? Just as a guide. He's good enough in quite a few sectors to be considered notable. ^^
FightAdamantEevee
Smash Lord
Nope, it's ezpz
I can usually do it like 85% of the time, especially since I use it more than Zap Jumping now because I never really taught myself how to Zap Jump without Bstick
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
Wow FAE, you're gonna be that guy?
Btw, was gonna ask what you record with, I have a Dazzle DVC 100, just need to know the program to use/settings if we can talk someday. I have a lot of great clips to make a combo video, might make one with a lot of people if I'm sent some clips.
Btw, was gonna ask what you record with, I have a Dazzle DVC 100, just need to know the program to use/settings if we can talk someday. I have a lot of great clips to make a combo video, might make one with a lot of people if I'm sent some clips.
Luco
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I feel bad watching combo vids, they make me feel like less than the speck of dust under one's desk.
Although Fsann's 3rd combo vid is up, for reference. :I
I have an SD card but nothing to connect it to the computer with. The result? No uploading videos. I have so many to share. Just then, for instance, I recorded a video in which I did a zap jump from standing position. I also recorded an 'up to date what I generally do' vid, although it's not my best but it's ok.
Still, no go if I can't upload. :/
Although Fsann's 3rd combo vid is up, for reference. :I
I have an SD card but nothing to connect it to the computer with. The result? No uploading videos. I have so many to share. Just then, for instance, I recorded a video in which I did a zap jump from standing position. I also recorded an 'up to date what I generally do' vid, although it's not my best but it's ok.
Still, no go if I can't upload. :/
Alberto1866
Smash Journeyman
You can buy a USB stick that you can insert your SD card to at your local electronics store, I know best buy sells them. They're only 6-8$
Also I love watching combo videos :D they always encourage me to do better.
Also I love watching combo videos :D they always encourage me to do better.
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
How do you transfer the vids from brawl to your computer? I was just gonna record with my Dazzle.
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
Good job Luco!
Guys, what should I get...
http://www.fangamer.net/products/eb-fanfest-combo This, or...
This
http://www.fangamer.net/products/awesomeness
Alberto1866
Smash Journeyman
Blueberry there's a thread that shows you how to get the Vids on your computer let me find it and ill edit my post in a sec
Here it is : http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=217934
Here it is : http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=217934
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
Thanks, I wonder if that's what FAE did, hopefully if I do that, it'll be like... good quality still.
Alberto1866
Smash Journeyman
Wait I think there was also a thread about recording brawl in HD I didn't read it though lol
NVM its expensive
NVM its expensive
BlueberrySyrup
Smash Lord
I have the necessary things though, Dazzle for recording, and I can get the software.
I just wanna see if FAE gets his stuff from what I have.
I just wanna see if FAE gets his stuff from what I have.
Alberto1866
Smash Journeyman
Oh alright well when you're done with your combo video post it here first I love Lucas combo videos :3 they're my favorite.
~Pink Fresh~
Smash Master
NY/NJ is so hard. ._.
They have so many good players like wtf. I LOST TO SALEM AND NAKAT. SALEM FRIGGIN BROKEN CHARACTER.
Nakat went mk and just played really patient. (to the point where he was up 2 stocks and still used glide to go under the stage alllllllllllllllllllllllll the way to the top blastzones loool)
all of Md/va got 9th in singles (me included)
They have so many good players like wtf. I LOST TO SALEM AND NAKAT. SALEM FRIGGIN BROKEN CHARACTER.
Nakat went mk and just played really patient. (to the point where he was up 2 stocks and still used glide to go under the stage alllllllllllllllllllllllll the way to the top blastzones loool)
all of Md/va got 9th in singles (me included)
Jamwa
Smash Champion
lol, i spent $180 on that fangamer kickstarter hehe ^^"
btw FAE, you cant wavebounce with Zair Jump can you, or is it a less lag/greater height trade off?
also anyway to learn the diddy naner lock? i know a good way of setting it up is dair as you pick up a banana and then footstall and then nana lock, but its super hard to learn. anyone got any methods that make it easier?
btw FAE, you cant wavebounce with Zair Jump can you, or is it a less lag/greater height trade off?
also anyway to learn the diddy naner lock? i know a good way of setting it up is dair as you pick up a banana and then footstall and then nana lock, but its super hard to learn. anyone got any methods that make it easier?