ZMan
Smash Master
it'll be never as fresh as the first hit but pummeling is a good idea to refresh attacks. just attack as much as you can before using your attack again
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The Lucas Boards' QnA Thread
- Thread starter ZMan
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I was just about to say that ;_;
I dunno about yall, but once I get a D-tilt in i tend to spam it a bit- at least 3 or 4 more times (hooray tripping effect!) before a F-smash. quick easy combo to refresh? Bair->D-tilt spam(x8)->F-smash
of course, if they get out of the D-tilt, a quick jab combo works as well, no?
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
naw, why would I talk about marth? hes gay.
~Pink Fresh~
Smash Master
8 dtilts?
that is stupid.
that is stupid.
actually, unless your opponent techs out of your initial D-tilt, its relatively easy to d-tilt lock them. The point of saying (x8) is because the Bair->d-tilt lock(x8)->F-smash combo would be an instant refresh on stale moves. obviously you dont NEED to hit your d-tilt 8 times.
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
c3gilliam: i thought u meant a bunch of dtilts. i didnt no u litterally meant 8 =]
Levitas
the moon
I like the fsmash x4 as Ike. It's a guranteed KO on most characters.
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
^^^^^
uhhh levitas
i think you mean 3 Warlock Punch's. it's much better and ko's waaay faster than Ike's x4 fsmash
uhhh levitas
i think you mean 3 Warlock Punch's. it's much better and ko's waaay faster than Ike's x4 fsmash
8 just gives the refresh- I would never bother to actually count them, I just spam about 3 or 4 and then F-smash.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
As awesome as a storm of Warlock punches is, I have a serious question, and I'm sure it's a ******** question, but oh well...
I see lots of things mentioning zap jumps and magnet pulls, and videos showing each, (and have finally managed to get both down) yet see nothing showing/talking of doing a magnet pull out of a zap jump.
Now I thought I'd heard people talking about it before, yet can't seem to find demonstrations/explanations, and can't seem to do it myself.
So basically, can I magnet pull after a zap jump, and if so how?
I see lots of things mentioning zap jumps and magnet pulls, and videos showing each, (and have finally managed to get both down) yet see nothing showing/talking of doing a magnet pull out of a zap jump.
Now I thought I'd heard people talking about it before, yet can't seem to find demonstrations/explanations, and can't seem to do it myself.
So basically, can I magnet pull after a zap jump, and if so how?
prOAPC
Smash Lord
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
Ooooh.... I thought wavezapping was something else.
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for the help!
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
Edited
sorry
sorry
ToonGLaX
Smash Rookie
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well...i new in this webside and just started to play lucas and i want to know if somebody can tell me how i can get better with his bair spike `cuz is really har to doit i mean sometimes i do it but just with lucky so...somebody can helpe i dont know how to practice or something?
Levitas
the moon
>_>
<_<
*looks for Yoshi-Kirby's ninja posting skills*
Practice against human players trying to recover once you find where the spike happens. To find the right place to hit, set a cpu to jump on practice mode and try to spike them until you find it.
<_<
*looks for Yoshi-Kirby's ninja posting skills*
Practice against human players trying to recover once you find where the spike happens. To find the right place to hit, set a cpu to jump on practice mode and try to spike them until you find it.
sounds about right- i suggest hitting it with the tip, and if that works nicely you know your hitting the right (G) spot. then practice more often, and youll nail it everytime!
EDIT- just look at the previous page (page 3) in this thread? lolz
-Annet211-
Smash Rookie
What techniques can I use to face a Diddy Kong. Had to face one in a tournament and lost horribly. This is probably a noob question but I am new to Lucas.
Yoshi-Kirby
Smash Journeyman
What I usually do against Diddy is just go all out offensive. I don't use PK Fire that much, cuz if you stay too far away, you'll get ***** by his bananas. I would put as much pressure on him as possible. Lucas has better range, so you should do good up close to him. Nair works pretty well against him. Just don't stay too far away.
Against Diddy Kong, I stay in the air, and I catch his banana's and use them against him, but you have to be sly, or the Diddy player will just catch the banana's, any good Diddy will, so you have to be tricky with them. Dair, ftilt and Diddy falls short of beating your grab range a lot so abuse those things.
Also it can be difficult for him to get past PK Fire when they're playing offensively.
Also it can be difficult for him to get past PK Fire when they're playing offensively.
FireKirby7
Smash Lord
Use the nanerz against him. It works so well.
Like Irsic said, be tricky with them. Throw them up in the air, or just hold on to it and spam PK Fire. They won't know when you'll throw it.
When you throw a naner at them and know that it will hit 'em, go after them with a rising dair or a dashgrab. Diddy's light, so fsmash will kill him easily. Don't expect it to hit though. If he is about to throw a naner at you, retreat while using PK Fire at him.
Like Irsic said, be tricky with them. Throw them up in the air, or just hold on to it and spam PK Fire. They won't know when you'll throw it.
When you throw a naner at them and know that it will hit 'em, go after them with a rising dair or a dashgrab. Diddy's light, so fsmash will kill him easily. Don't expect it to hit though. If he is about to throw a naner at you, retreat while using PK Fire at him.
ChaosTheoryX
Smash Lord
Short hop neutral air directly over bananas automatically picks them up. Use this technique against our diddy main and he says it annoys the hell out of him because I can grab his bananas with a move that has no lag if auto cancelled.
Levitas
the moon
you bsticking?
I am having some difficulty with the SJR and "infinite" jump- I can easily do it with nair, and fair- but for dair I can only SJR once (dair, SJR, dair, fail.) and with bair its the same but twice, i cant seem to do it more than that. and I can only do PK Fires SJR once! 
any advice? something i could be screwing up? my timing still feels right.
EDIT- also, immediatly following any aerial or PK Fire, my zair seems to airdodge rather than tether. after the airdodge I can tether again- but is there any reason for this?
any advice? something i could be screwing up? my timing still feels right.
EDIT- also, immediatly following any aerial or PK Fire, my zair seems to airdodge rather than tether. after the airdodge I can tether again- but is there any reason for this?
Levitas
the moon
Don't bother with the SJR. It has fairly trivial applications, and SJRing Dair once is more than enough..
I'll look into those frames c3gill (airdodge not tether, that is)
I'll look into those frames c3gill (airdodge not tether, that is)
Yoshi-Kirby
Smash Journeyman
Yeah, I wouldn't use SJR much either. Maybe with Dair and Nair, but only once and that's it. Other than that, I wouldn't recommend it.
prOAPC
Smash Lord
you are pressing L before the animation of the attack ends, that will perform a buffered airdodge
I thought that too, but some of the times I did this it was as much as a full second before I tried to tether and i still was airdodging.
I dont think Lucas' moves have that much down time... this could easily lead to a death in a match, which is why I asked. A full second seems too long to me..
EDIT- also this doesnt happen at all with PSI Magnet- I believe that APC is right, but why so long after my initial attack?
Levitas
the moon
lucas's attacks have a long time when it looks like he isn't doing anything after they're done hitting stuff.
prOAPC
Smash Lord
use Lucario's nair offstage, and you'll have to wait like 2 seconds to use your second jump, it autocancels though
Levitas
the moon
Because this is a very important thread
ToxiCrow
Smash Ace
OMG LEVITAS!!!
YOUR NAME IS RED!!!!
This change: when did it happen?!
YOUR NAME IS RED!!!!
This change: when did it happen?!
ummm ditto? GRATS!
and while it still pisses me off that i cant aerial -> tether, if you whack on the zair twice really fast after an aerial your airdodge with the first one and (it looks like) mid-airdodge you can throw out the snake.... so it the airdodge canceled? this is just
me
Levitas
the moon
It happened last night. I guess none of you looked up at the moon, it was a deep shade of blood red.
c3gill: you can cancel an airdodge at any point into a tether. It's not just you. In fact, it's not just lucas. Anyone with a zair can cancel their airdodge into it.
c3gill: you can cancel an airdodge at any point into a tether. It's not just you. In fact, it's not just lucas. Anyone with a zair can cancel their airdodge into it.
prOAPC
Smash Lord
congrats Levitas
you can have and item in your hand, airdodge and then zair, and you won't throw the item
you can have and item in your hand, airdodge and then zair, and you won't throw the item
as usual, thank you for clearing that up for me. im sure i have another stupid question brewing, so ill probabally be posting it soon.
S.D
Smash Master
Big ups to Levitas and also to this thread for becoming STICKY.