Reioumu
Smash Lord
Kirby is too good :3. I agree with this list.
-Rei
^Too good cause it's true.
-Rei
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The H2YL Tier List - The Real Sh*t
- Thread starter chillindude829
- Start date
hunger!
Smash Champion
i agree with this list with the exception of luigi, i think he should be right behind wario because of his crazy airgame. other than that pretty accurate in my eyes
SpikeSpiegel19
Smash Ace
Can u get off Kirby's back cuz he combos and gimps Falco ****less???
Keitaro
Banned via Administration
No offense to either of you but this would prove nothing.
Chillin is Chillin and PRiDE is PRiDE.
We might as well let Azen's Lucario face everyone so Lucario will be # 2.
boss8
Smash Hero
1st....last time we had this little debate...korn beat your brother in a set
2nd..... korn consistantly places high.....ch3 9th/25.......cyberden 3rd(second turney) Cyberden 2 (9th)
3rd.....candy easly gets out smarted....korn doesnt....
4th....your bro plays snake aka god tier
5th...korn never started the argument.....korn just said that dark night(the movie sux)
so yea any questions???
chillindude829
Smash Master
I never said it would prove anything, I just like money. :D
boss8
Smash Hero
dayummm......ike vs yoshi.....
a useless character vs a wanna backstreet boy with a sword and blue hair........
a useless character vs a wanna backstreet boy with a sword and blue hair........
says the Mario user.
boss8
Smash Hero
i mean for the longest time......yoshi wuz mario's *****
Once you start losing money you get used to it.
xYz
Smash Lord
phail.
He's fine where he is at....
MK
Snake
DDD
Falco
G&W
That's what i've alway thought the upper tier was, and at FAST, M2k told me the same exact thing. Theirs obvious reasons why G&W is ranked so high, and he has very little bad match ups. and does very well against the god tier.
I would know...
p.s.- PRiDE is a sick yoshi main!!! But i'm not going to argue on where he places in the tier list.
1. I don't know what you're talking about. Candy has beaten Korn 95% of the time and you KNOW this. If you're so confident that Korn can beat Candy, then do you want to do side bets next time they play? Let's say $50? Let's see how confident you are about Korn being better now!!!
2. Consistently places higher? See what Korn places on average and compare it to what Candy averages... Not only does Candy average better but he also goes to more tournaments. Now that's being consistent.
3. You're entiled to your opinion, no matter how wrong you are.
4. Yeah he plays Snake... Your point? Korn plays MK!!! Wooooooow.
5. Are you serious? Go back and re-read everything Korn has posted. Then get back to me.
SpikeSpiegel19
Smash Ace
lol lets not have this debate here uall, perhaps it should be continued in front of some brawl with 50$ on the table?
boss8
Smash Hero
it doesnt matter....it depends on turney placings who is better.....if they fought one on one it doesnt matter.....im sure the people your bro lost to are the same ones they korn can beat...GTFO.......or i will beat u all with my low tier mario....btw tell yo bro i will have his money in about a week.
korn has lost interest in brawl anyways....due to melee....
i still play both and i am good AT BOTH!!! unlike danny.....
melee=he is horriable....
brawl=he is decent....
ShadowDragonG
Smash Cadet
- Joined
- Jul 11, 2007
- Messages
- 52
I disagree with the lower half of that list.
But, okay.
But, okay.
hova
Smash Champion
the originals aka TNR part 2 are the worst crew ever
all ya'll do is bicker back and forth. makeshift crews are stupid, crews need to be formed naturally from people that you play with often and actually like
originals=fail
all ya'll do is bicker back and forth. makeshift crews are stupid, crews need to be formed naturally from people that you play with often and actually like
originals=fail
chillindude829
Smash Master
Hova speaks the truth, thats why H2YL has been going strong for 7 years, cuz we play together a lot and are cool with each other. Except Mild.
Crizthakidd
Smash Champion
what do u base that tier list off O.o i know that like mid high and top are the ones that matter but a lot is opinionated here right.
east coast ftw! i wish i got more into njz tourny scene
east coast ftw! i wish i got more into njz tourny scene
ChaosKnight
Smash Master
actually the only close knit group i would play with is korn Boss and Blues except blues is not an original the rest candy gonzo and peeps just wanna be in the loop xD
boss8
Smash Hero
hova
Smash Champion
u could try...
the only time i lost to an original is when Candy teamed with Omni
the only time i lost to an original is when Candy teamed with Omni
Scissors Sir
Smash Ace
**** you chillin...
People are already using this list for referencing
*shakes fist until it falls off arm*
People are already using this list for referencing
*shakes fist until it falls off arm*
chillindude829
Smash Master
Well considering it's the most accurate tier list currently posted anywhere, that doesn't really surprise me
KORNNNNN~
Smash Master
lol it's not my fault...
i dont have a clue why a guy name chaos keep arguing in this tier thread...
and i agree with CK..
only Boss, CK, chozengay and me are in Originals, we're all cool to each other
so don't blame our crew D:
...and a whoever name Chaos need to stop kiss Candy's azz...
no one cares about his argument..
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sorry Chillin, Hova..
Mew2King
King of the Mews
ummmm no MK clearly loses to Snake, I don't know who's better but MK definitely does not have the advantage over Snake. You live in the area where all the top MK players are, but you haven't seen many top snake players by comparison. Every snake that was good took a match off me in FL when i was mk, but i won the sets cuz im a better player. If Snake doesn't get gimped, he wins, if he gets gimped he loses.
Oh and let's not pretend you can't land, you can still footstool people's heads if they are trying to land, and you can B-momentum-pivot your trajectory by pressing B (or down B) and then right after that pressing left or right, besides coming down with an aerial or air dodge and mixing up fast falls. You play Azen who is perfect at punishing air dodges, but I don't even compare with Azen's timing at that, and without gimps Snake beats MK.
1-2) MK/Snake tie
3) Falco
4-5) Wario/GW
6) DDD
that's my current opinion
Oh and let's not pretend you can't land, you can still footstool people's heads if they are trying to land, and you can B-momentum-pivot your trajectory by pressing B (or down B) and then right after that pressing left or right, besides coming down with an aerial or air dodge and mixing up fast falls. You play Azen who is perfect at punishing air dodges, but I don't even compare with Azen's timing at that, and without gimps Snake beats MK.
1-2) MK/Snake tie
3) Falco
4-5) Wario/GW
6) DDD
that's my current opinion
CY
Smash Ace
oh, the mighty m2k has spoken words of wisdom.
chillindude829
Smash Master
DDD under Wario and G&W? M2K do you realize how many different characters can grab release Wario into a strong attack? I think you let every tourney you play affect your view of the tiers too much. Before FAST I never saw you put Wario that high but a Wario gets 2nd at FAST and suddenly he's 4th on your tier list. And a couple of matches that some good snakes took off your MK don't exactly prove to me that Snake beats MK.
Mew2King
King of the Mews
actually chillin even though i do change opinions based on experience, i thought wario was TOP tier BEFORE fast1, since Futile was doing so well, and DSF thought the same thing, just not enough people used him. I still think Snake has the advantage vs MK, you can think what you want, but you have played all the top MKs and you still beat them, that should say something besides your own skill level.
chillindude829
Smash Master
Wait, wtf? Top MK's I've played with Snake: you (I lost), Forte (barely won last time), Omni (lost last two times) and Azen who always dominates my Snake with MK, although we've never done that match in tourney. Out of all of those top MKs, I only actually beat one, and even then it was extremely close. I don't even use Snake vs MK anymore, because I know I have a better chance with a different character.
Shadow 111
Smash Lord
YES!!!! lmfao .. now that m2k has said it i bet everyone who was just talking **** about meta ****** snake will shut up.. so sad haha
imdavid
Smash Journeyman
what... sheik is in low tier.. sigh... okay.. if you say so... not that i don't believe you XD hahah
BurtonEarny
Smash Ace
- Joined
- Jun 15, 2008
- Messages
- 579
Sorry but some of your statements are completly innacurate...
D3 is 3rd, sorry standing infinites dont impress you, but he is also just a good character, with the ability to chain grab nearly everyone he has the recovery, weight, reach,and hes not slow. He is solidy one of the top characters.
Kirby ACTUALLY is great again. He can combo well in the air and his kill moves have much more knockback, his recovery was great and his speed isnt bad at all. Kirby characters got a buff this time around, but thats clearly seen why.
I'll agree on the diddy and yoshi statements. Yoshi isnt that bad and ganon certainly isnt as good as they said he is, they could be switched and I think it would be fine. Pikaand diddy are better than peach and D.K. IMO... People can argue the details all day, but its still a good tier list.
lil cj
Smash Lord
I thought Olimar was high tier?
And why is Lucas so low??
And why is Lucas so low??
old king coal
Smash Journeyman
yay falco is high
Tell him to quit. That's not good for your health.
Anyway, sorry for my ignorance, but what is this list based on? Attributes, strengths and weaknesses, popularity, what?
Nyjin
Smash Ace
This is as accurate of a tier list that I've seen (I don't generally look at them, though, so I can't really talk.)
I, of course, have a few small disagreements but that's always going to happen with things like this...
One thing I have to point at is why Ike is so high? I main Ike, myself, but consider a few of the characters below him to be better simply because of how many bad matchups and how gimpable an Ike is.
*backs away slowly before he gets attacked*
I, of course, have a few small disagreements but that's always going to happen with things like this...
One thing I have to point at is why Ike is so high? I main Ike, myself, but consider a few of the characters below him to be better simply because of how many bad matchups and how gimpable an Ike is.
*backs away slowly before he gets attacked*
Brinzy
Godfather of the Crimean Mafia
I'm glad that Zelda's buff actually got her somewhere. As for Ness...
MK26
Smash Master
Is there any reason why this is in Atlantic North discussion? Is it to avoid being locked for not being in the official tier discussion in Tactical Brawl?
Ohhhh...This is here because it is a tier list based mainly on the Atlantic North Brawl scene. Amirite?
K, anyways, I feel like arguing, but I don't want to be flamed. So, rather than arguing, I will respectfully state my opinion and ask why yours differs from mine.
What's your reasoning for putting Pit so high? Is arrow spam really that effective?
Wario: agree
DK: expected lower, but agreed.
ICs: Probably could go a little higher, but no complaints.
Wolf: Maybe a little lower, but maybe the Kirby bias is talking again.
Peach: ?! Does Peach have some insane aerial float-cancel where she can combo 3 attacks in a short-hop? Everybody is under the opinion that Peach has been drastically nerfed from Melee, so why is she still in high tier?
Ike: Really? I can see where you're coming from, Ike definitely has some potential. But putting him above Pikachu, Fox, and Toon Link? Do any of these guys come even remotely close to having a bad match-up with Ike? Why is Ike in the middle of Mid Tier and not the bottom (of the tier)?
Others: Agree. I might place Pika a little higher, but no complaints here.
1) Why is Bowser where he is and not a lot lower? Just asking.
2) What do you see in Ganondorf? I thought he was universally agreed to bottom 2. Are there some really good Ganondorf players in your area?
3) PT? Low Tier? I would have thought at least the bottom of middle. Can you explain why he's so low?
Ohhhh...This is here because it is a tier list based mainly on the Atlantic North Brawl scene. Amirite?
K, anyways, I feel like arguing, but I don't want to be flamed. So, rather than arguing, I will respectfully state my opinion and ask why yours differs from mine.
I agree. I expected Snake to be #2 of God tier, but that D.I.C.K.ing thing definitely takes the cake. Expected Falco to be lower, but I play Kirby. So that's personal bias. No comlaints here.
Agreed. I thought R.O.B. would be higher than Marth, but I see where you're coming from.chillindude829 said:
OK. So this is where things start to get a little shaky for me. I want to say Kirby might be a little lower, but the Kirby main inside me is telling me to shut up.chillindude829 said:
What's your reasoning for putting Pit so high? Is arrow spam really that effective?
Wario: agree
DK: expected lower, but agreed.
ICs: Probably could go a little higher, but no complaints.
Wolf: Maybe a little lower, but maybe the Kirby bias is talking again.
Peach: ?!
Does Peach have some insane aerial float-cancel where she can combo 3 attacks in a short-hop? Everybody is under the opinion that Peach has been drastically nerfed from Melee, so why is she still in high tier?Zero Suit Samus: I expected her to be lower. Have they found a combo for her that you can't DI out of?chillindude829 said:
Ike: Really? I can see where you're coming from, Ike definitely has some potential. But putting him above Pikachu, Fox, and Toon Link? Do any of these guys come even remotely close to having a bad match-up with Ike? Why is Ike in the middle of Mid Tier and not the bottom (of the tier)?
Others: Agree. I might place Pika a little higher, but no complaints here.
Yes, I reaize the lowest tiers are hard to order, but I have a few questions.chillindude829 said:
1) Why is Bowser where he is and not a lot lower? Just asking.
2) What do you see in Ganondorf? I thought he was universally agreed to bottom 2. Are there some really good Ganondorf players in your area?
3) PT? Low Tier? I would have thought at least the bottom of middle. Can you explain why he's so low?
For the most part, I agree with this. However, I think Jigglypuff could be a little higher. Bottom of low sounds good. Why is he/she/it/puffball not higher up?chillindude829 said:
Keitaro
Banned via Administration
lol, we should Falco ditto friendly although Falco dittos are ********. I wanna learn some ****. Come to Esticle.