The Great Fairy Fountain Research Thread

[KayLo!]

It posted, lol. & since you have an SD card, you can upload the replay online via your computer.

- Save replay to SD card
- Put SD card into computer
- Upload replay file to Mediafire, Megaupload, or any other file sharing site

 

[Fluttershy]

oh ok i didn't see it i"ve already placed the replay on the SD card but the computers that i get on don't have a SD card reader (library computers). my computer has it but...

 

[KayLo!]

Aw. Well it's cool if you can't upload it, but if you find a way, I'd love to see it.

For now I'll try to recreate what you described.

 

[Fluttershy]

ok if i'm able to upload it i'll post a link here. i should be able to do it whenever i get internet again but i don't know when that will be.

 

[Fluttershy]

ignore this

 

[#HBC | Scary]

MK would have plenty of time to attack you before you ever reach him. It just cannot work. I'll test though, just because.

 

[MrEh]

Somehow I don't think that this chaingrab is real, but it's always possible I suppose. It just sounds iffy, since it's Zelda.

 

[KayLo!]

I'm pretty sure this isn't legit, but I'll do some testing. Maybe. After I finish what I'm currently working on.....

 

[AlanHaTe]

I guess he could do a Shuttle Loop and many things more... but still I'll give it a try

 

[Fluttershy]

Within the one frame he maybe (not sure) able to do a shuttle loop (i can't test it because no one in my house right now plays brawl other than me ) but if he doesn't do it or jump away, it may be possible to regrab him.

 

[MrEh]

I'm sure it's possible to regrab him if he doesn't do anything, but what MK would just do nothing? When you grab release MK, he recovers BEFORE he hits the ground. If you're grabbing him when he hits the ground, this isn't even close to working.

Zelda just moves too slow. Characters that can GR chaingrab MK can generally do it for a reason, like Yoshi's long grab range, or Bowser's glitchy frames.

 

[Fluttershy]

I know i'm just saying that i'm not sure if the jumps are just that i missed it or if he's able to jump (and/or attack) before he lands. (It may not have sounded that way though...)

 

[MrEh]

He's always able to jump or attack before he lands.

 

[Fluttershy]

ok. the time when he can jump is like one frame before he lands?

 

[MrEh]

No. He can jump way before that. A couple feet above the ground.

 

[Fluttershy]

ok i "removed" the one post it just says "ignore this" now.

 

[MrEh]

There's no reason to remove things you know.

 

[Fluttershy]

I know its just that I don't like to remember somethings. I just try not to make the same mistake again but not remember the feeling after making the mistake.

 

[Kataefi]

i tested this too! but she can't do anything out of GR afaik.

 

[GodAtHand]

I missed something, but Zelda can grab release Meta. It's kinda useful in teams. And she can LK him out of it on the moving platform in smashville. That is all I believe.

 

[Fluttershy]

I tried MK's view. Once he's about the height of Zelda's head he can attack (or jump)

Also for lagless LK's. its possible to LK, land, (SH) jump then another LK (but it maybe lagless). I forgot to mention that and two more things. With the three bowser's I did two lagless LK's in a row. And they won't appear on the first couple tries.

 

[KayLo!]

Vids would be so niiiice~

 

[AlanHaTe]

Does anybody know how Dtilt works for spiking? is it some sweetspot thing, hitbox or just something random? I have succesfully landed it but in the whole time I've been playing it's just been like 4 or 5 times as I don't go for it too often... So maybe knowing something new this can be easier to do I think

 

[Fuujin]

Can I get the frame data difference between Nayru's in the air and on the ground?

 

[KayLo!]

Does anybody know how Dtilt works for spiking? is it some sweetspot thing, hitbox or just something random? I have succesfully landed it but in the whole time I've been playing it's just been like 4 or 5 times as I don't go for it too often... So maybe knowing something new this can be easier to do I think

It's a specific hitbox.... I think it's the toe.

Can I get the frame data difference between Nayru's in the air and on the ground?

They're both the same. =X

 

[GodAtHand]

I am pretty sure the the hitbox closest to Zelda's thigh during dtilt is the one that spikes.

 

[Fuujin]

They're both the same. =X

But....
"It won’t last as long in the air as it does on the ground, so be careful." -Sakurai
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/zelda.html

 

[KayLo!]

Sakurai's clearly wrong.

Jk, I'll look at the data again, but I don't remember them being different tbh.

 

[AlanHaTe]

Sakurai's clearly wrong.

LOL!!!!

that's one of the funniest posts I've ever read!!

 

[Half-Split Soul]

Sakurai's clearly wrong.

That is possible, some information on the official site really is false. For example, it claims that "You can even charge it (Mario's F.L.U.D.D.) up while shielding."

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/mario.html

 

[AlanHaTe]

lol at FLUDD xD
seems like Sakurai wanted to have some fun or something xD

still Sakurai has no idea of the real world... x_x

 

[Fuujin]

So both Nayrus are the same???

 

[KayLo!]

If I actually thought you cared, I'd probably rush a little more on this. ;; Been testing ISJR stuff instead. =X

But uhhh yeah I'll add it to my list so I don't forget again.

 

[Fuujin]

Kayla youre info is the only reason I even come to this board, other than to troll and submit data for flayls chart.

 

[AlanHaTe]

may I ask what is ISJR? :3

 

[KayLo!]

Infinite Second Jump Recovery. Examples would be Pikachu's QAC or Bowser's Klaw jumping.

According to some old thread that popped up again recently, most aerials have an ISJR/SJR window, including Zelda's kicks and dair. Dunno how accurate/usable it is, but I've never seen any Zelda use it (besides ledgewarping, which is kind of a subset of SJR).... so I wanna look into it.

Eventually.

When I have time.

Which is almost never nowadays.

 

[AlanHaTe]

ohh so that's it thanks!!! I tried to do it but couldn't get it done x_x

I have one question about SDI...

Does the character really depends on how fast he/she can get out of the attacks for example let's say for which character is easier to SDI out of Zelda's Dtilt lock for Mario or Peach...

And what is/are the thing that determine this?

I hope I don't get in trouble for posting this here

 

[Fuujin]

Still waiting on Kayla

 

[AyatoK26]

Could someone remind me what's the stun duration from a LK (sweetspotted)? I think it's around one second but I could be wrong.

 

[GodAtHand]

The Peach's have hurtboxes to look at. Can we have hurtboxes to look at? I would like to see if anything changes with Zelda while she is preforming her moves.

Edit: Actually their entire Hitbox thread is just far superior to ours. D=

Edit: I was wondering if anyone could get Zelda's hitboxes with a beam sword. That would be interesting to see...

None of this is really important I was just brainstorming.