The Full Smash 64 Learning Curve (MASSIVE UPDATES)

[remedys]

i have to point out that 95% of the players reading this are at lvl4+ and so more between lvl 4 and 5 would be nice, but still very good thread, ty.

 

[asianaussie]

i have to point out that 95% of the players reading this are at lvl4+ and so more between lvl 4 and 5 would be nice, but still very good thread, ty.

Agreed...Z cancelling, most advanced techniques...they aren't hard to use. Most scrubs nowadays can use them, and think they are good because they can Z-cancel Kirby's D-Air into U-Tilt. If there was a difficulty list of ATs (eg. shine shield-break, shine jab, Ness's Down-B edgegrab would be high, Z-Cancel, edgehog are low) this list would be a lot more comprehensive.

If you ask me, the big thing separating scrubs from advanced players is DI. Scrubs just let themselves be comboed.

 

[ballin4life]

Wtf at ness's downb edgegrab being a highly difficult technique

 

[Zen Yore]

wrong
kirby scrubs have epic DI and cant combo

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

epic kb DI

 

[P D]

gc di > kb di

 

[Zen Yore]

gc di > kb di

DDR pad DI > gc DI > kb DI

Typical kirby scrubs like to do teh epic utilt combo, so there used to hit the kb arrows like 13 year old boys.

i think im the only elitist feg in here that has poor DI

 

[NixxxoN]

i think im the only elitist feg in here that has poor DI

Players online DI has a lot to do with what controller / kb they use. KB rulz at DI and sucks at precision

gc di > kb di

Its about input mashing... How can pressing a kb key be slower than mashing the GC joystick in a direction?

 

[Zen Yore]

Players online DI has a lot to do with what controller / kb they use. KB rulz at DI and sucks at precision

i just use a normal n64 controller, i have ok ledge DI and I can gtfo of combos in rapetent, but besides, yoshis drill is giving me pain in the ***, but i still manage to escape it a few times, if the Yoshi stands still and doesnt drill in the direction I DI. But I cant DI out of Falcon's Fair.

 

[Gammelnorsk]

wtf ddr pad that is p. much the best idea ive ever seen

 

[NixxxoN]

wtf ddr pad that is p. much the best idea ive ever seen

lolwut. I can't see ddr pad working that good.

Someone tell a faster way than mashing a keyboard button...?
The only thing i know is a dual joystick input so its like you move it twice as fast. The result is fking crazy. Its close to TAS DI

 

[Zen Yore]

no hax plz
u could put an input on the right/left step of the ddr pad, and on the controller, so when u DI, u tap ur foot in the same direction that u are smashing the joystick/kb arrow

i wish that wud work ):

 

[P D]

Its about input mashing... How can pressing a kb key be slower than mashing the GC joystick in a direction?

dpad is way better than kb because its so tiny

 

[SeanxFayt]

i'm a level 4 i definitely have to start playing this again lol the community is growing :D

 

[Darth Rancorous]

i'm a level 4 i definitely have to start playing this again lol the community is growing :D

u should! smash64 is the best out of all 3 smash games. and it does seem that more people are gettin into it recently

 

[karterfreak]

I believe I'm around the 5A/5B area, leaning a little towards 5B. Still got a long way to go to get past it too. :/

 

[Surri-Sama]

i just use a normal n64 controller, i have ok ledge DI and I can gtfo of combos in rapetent, but besides, yoshis drill is giving me pain in the ***, but i still manage to escape it a few times, if the Yoshi stands still and doesnt drill in the direction I DI. But I cant DI out of Falcon's Fair.

Your DI is normal for your controller...i wouldn't worry about it

I use D-pad (ps3 controller) so my DI is above average...but not to the point of some peoples...

I would prefer to use analog but personally i find the analog on the ps controllers to be in an awkward place ....screws me up

 

[U900]

wow I guess I'm level 3-4 :\

 

[Terra~]

If I just D-Air everything with Kirby am I a level 6?

 

[Zen Yore]

i dont see how you can win one single match by just using dair

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Well... not l-cancelling dair has some knockback... which gets noticeable at higher percents... Though I highly doubt it would kill anyone lol

 

[Lawrencelot]

i dont see how you can win one single match by just using dair

Add an uptilt and you can hardly lose though

 

[WOTG]

I was a Level 5C/5B at best, than moved down to Level 5A/4 after switching controllers.

 

[Fireblaster]

I was a Level 5C/5B at best

Lol.

No offense, but you weren't at that level yet.

 

[remedys]

probly a 4.

 

[Surri-Sama]

WOTG fire blaster is 5c, can you keep up with him on every level?

i almost can not quiet though...

5a/b ...any argument?

 

[WOTG]

I was a level 6 cuz I can spam backthrow with DK, j/k

Yeah, you're right, I somehow read that wrong. I only played teams with Fire, and thats enough to show that he is definately better.

I averaged between 5A and 5B, and would be a 5B at the top of my game.

 

[Deleted member]

Fireblaster is the most overrated smasher in online 64

 

[NixxxoN]

Fireblaster is the most overrated smasher in online 64

at least his falcon seems to be very good

 

[Darth Rancorous]

Well... not l-cancelling dair has some knockback... which gets noticeable at higher percents... Though I highly doubt it would kill anyone lol

lets keep this ssb64 related please lol j/p

 

[Gammelnorsk]

world level champ

get @ my level

 

[Blue Yoshi]

lets keep this ssb64 related please lol j/p

lag cancel? At least according to House that's what it's called. Then again, maybe I use the keyboard and my shield button is the 'L' key. How do you know?

 

[Deleted member]

at least his falcon seems to be very good

His Falcon is very good at camping like a ****** and doing the original combo of up-smash, up-air up-air up-air up-air up-b every single stock

 

[Daedatheus]

His Falcon is very good at camping like a ****** and doing the original combo of up-smash, up-air up-air up-air up-air up-b every single stock

ugh who cares

 

[NixxxoN]

His Falcon is very good at camping like a ****** and doing the original combo of up-smash, up-air up-air up-air up-air up-b every single stock

Two words: HAX DI
Use it only against those "original" falcons x)
Or against utilt spamming kirby b¡tches

 

[StealthyGunnar]

Hmm.. Nice guide. I honestly don't know what 'level' I am at. I do multi-hit combos, but not consistently. I do shorthop aerials. I juggle, spike, and have almost mastered comboing into JigglyPuff's rest.

I though I was a very good player, and I still do. So far, no one I have battle has stood any chance. But I do know for sure that there are better players out there than me.

Help? At least help me find out what level I'm at... lol. ^^

 

[Surri-Sama]

Hmm.. Nice guide. I honestly don't know what 'level' I am at. I do multi-hit combos, but not consistently. I do shorthop aerials. I juggle, spike, and have almost mastered comboing into JigglyPuff's rest.

I though I was a very good player, and I still do. So far, no one I have battle has stood any chance. But I do know for sure that there are better players out there than me.

Help? At least help me find out what level I'm at... lol. ^^

Its hard to judge when you have nothing to go by really

Do you play online

 

[Blue Yoshi]

It sounds like you're a 5A. You're learning to combo but it isn't fluent. You use all (or most) of the advanced techniques, including short-hop and some character-specific techniques.

If you play online, you can play someone who's good, and they'll be able to tell you what you are.

 

[StealthyGunnar]

Umm.. how exactly do I play online? I mean, i have an N64 and the game... Do I need like an adapter?

thx for the replies ^^

 

[Surri-Sama]

Umm.. how exactly do I play online? I mean, i have an N64 and the game... Do I need like an adapter?

thx for the replies ^^

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