The First Party general support thread

[Arcadenik]

Captain Syrup and Wario Land in general is so underrated. If only Captain Syrup was the Wario rep everyone was rallying behind because she could bring so much more to the table than any Warioware character in my opinion.

I just want a new Wario Land game.

Wario Land 3 is so good and it is my favorite Wario game.

Maybe they can remake Wario Land 3 and give it the Shake It hand-drawn graphics and animations?

 

[Otoad64]

I just want a new Wario Land game.

Wario Land 3 is so good and it is my favorite Wario game.

Maybe they can remake Wario Land 3 and give it the Shake It hand-drawn graphics and animations?

or better yet, remake ALL OF THEM, even the virtual boy one

 

[chocolatejr9]

or better yet, remake ALL OF THEM, even the virtual boy one

Wasn't the Virtual Boy one rumored to be getting a remake?

 

[Otoad64]

Wasn't the Virtual Boy one rumored to be getting a remake?

i don't know i don't pay attention to leaks

 

[Arcadenik]

or better yet, remake ALL OF THEM, even the virtual boy one

Ugh... I would even settle for a “Wario All-Stars” collection with Wario Land 1-4 plus the Virtual Boy game and the Wii game.

 

[Louie G.]

Captain Syrup and Wario Land in general is so underrated. If only Captain Syrup was the Wario rep everyone was rallying behind because she could bring so much more to the table than any Warioware character in my opinion.

Been saying this, everyone is always talking about the lack of Wario Land content in the game but not enough people are pushing for the most prominent character from that series (other than the man himself, obviously). There's no reason why Syrup couldn't happen as a result of a dedicated fan push in the same way K. Rool was revived, I really want to see that movement happen and I'll be at the forefront of it when it does.

With Syrup you have the opportunity to bring definitive Wario Land content without pointlessly shouting at Sakurai to change a unique (and fun!) moveset - considering he has a tendency to stick with his guns and keep characters the way they were already established more or less. I'd like a couple more Wario Land moves on Wario as much as the next guy but yknow, maybe if there was more effort put behind rallying for a new vessel for more Wario Land content that would happen regardless. I think Wario is perfectly fun as is too, so no major issue one way or the other for me.

Also Captain Syrup rocks. Awesome design and the more pirates in Smash the better.

Not to disparage any Warioware characters though because I think a bunch of them would be great too. I wouldn't be disappointed to get say, Mona or Ashley instead of Captain Syrup - but I think Syrup is the best possible option of the bunch.

 

[Oracle Link]

Add Ralph(zelda) you Cowards!

 

[YoshiandToad]

Talking of Wario, I'm actually shocked we haven't gotten a WarioWare on Switch yet?

Between the motion controls of the Joycons seemingly being perfect for a Smooth Moves type of deal and the accessibility of the console, how it hasn't happened yet is beyond me.

Regarding Syrup; If I recall there was a rumour going around about Wario Land Shake It possibly getting a port to Switch. I'm doubtful but if it turns out to be true that could net Syrup a lot of new fans since Shake It was...surprisingly not a great seller despite launching on the Switch in the midst of it's popularity.

I wonder if that's why Wario Land has been on hiatus since?

 

[fogbadge]

Talking of Wario, I'm actually shocked we haven't gotten a WarioWare on Switch yet?

I wonder if that's why Wario Land has been on hiatus since?

it hasnt been that long since the last one

wario ware

 

[Perkilator]

I really hate the whole "first parties aren't hype and should be base game picks" mentality, if it's a new character that's good enough for me for the most part.

To me, this mentality can only really apply to current Assist Trophies (Ashley, Takamaru, Waluigi, etc.). What I mean is that they had their chance in the base game and they missed it, so they're not just gonna make them DLC when they're already Assist Trophies to begin with.

 

[BritishGuy54]

I feel certain we are getting at least one more first-party character in this pass.

I hope it’s Rex, but knowing my luck, it’s going to be Buzzy Beetle

 

[Otoad64]

I hope it’s Rex, but knowing my luck, it’s going to be Buzzy Beetle

I hope it's not Rex, but I feel like he's the most likely

 

[YoshiandToad]

it hasnt been that long since the last one

wario ware

Normally I'd agree with you as three years is barely anything.... but it's WarioWare.

A collection of microgames. Plus Gold, the last entry, was largely a greatest hits game with only a handful of new microgames to it's name.

WarioWare at one point had a new game every one to two years. It slowed down around Game and Wario's development but before that some years even had two WarioWare titles to their name.

We also haven't had a new Rhythm Heaven in a long old time and these two titles are made by the same team.

Usually when WarioWare skipped a year Rhythm Heaven was getting a title but...the last RH title was 2016. Is the series meant to be dead, on hiatus or are we due a new entry?

 

[fogbadge]

Normally I'd agree with you as three years is barely anything.... but it's WarioWare.

A collection of microgames. Plus Gold, the last entry, was largely a greatest hits game with only a handful of new microgames to it's name.

WarioWare at one point had a new game every one to two years. It slowed down around Game and Wario's development but before that some years even had two WarioWare titles to their name.

We also haven't had a new Rhythm Heaven in a long old time and these two titles are made by the same team.

Usually when WarioWare skipped a year Rhythm Heaven was getting a title but...the last RH title was 2016. Is the series meant to be dead, on hiatus or are we due a new entry?

that is a good point. But games don’t always stick to release patterns. Not to mention loads of stuff is bound to have been delayed. But a switch rhythm paradise game would be very welcome

 

[Otoad64]

well, we got a first party

but it's probably the last 1st party, unfortunately. And good for anyone who wanted Pyra but I was not one of those people

Pyra seems interesting like an interesting character though

 

[NintenRob]

Its a step up from Fighter Pass 1, where we had to wait until the very end. I feel like we're at a stage where people can't seriously dismiss first party characters. I feel like we're in a good position going forward

 

[Guynamednelson]

Its a step up from Fighter Pass 1, where we had to wait until the very end. I feel like we're at a stage where people can't seriously dismiss first party characters. I feel like we're in a good position going forward

I've seen some people think this will be it for first parties. Which is ridiculous since Smash's finales aren't where they get all the money from.

 

[Mamboo07]

Been saying this, everyone is always talking about the lack of Wario Land content in the game but not enough people are pushing for the most prominent character from that series (other than the man himself, obviously). There's no reason why Syrup couldn't happen as a result of a dedicated fan push in the same way K. Rool was revived, I really want to see that movement happen and I'll be at the forefront of it when it does.

With Syrup you have the opportunity to bring definitive Wario Land content without pointlessly shouting at Sakurai to change a unique (and fun!) moveset - considering he has a tendency to stick with his guns and keep characters the way they were already established more or less. I'd like a couple more Wario Land moves on Wario as much as the next guy but yknow, maybe if there was more effort put behind rallying for a new vessel for more Wario Land content that would happen regardless. I think Wario is perfectly fun as is too, so no major issue one way or the other for me.

Also Captain Syrup rocks. Awesome design and the more pirates in Smash the better.

Not to disparage any Warioware characters though because I think a bunch of them would be great too. I wouldn't be disappointed to get say, Mona or Ashley instead of Captain Syrup - but I think Syrup is the best possible option of the bunch.

I'm pretty much the only one who wants The Shake King so I can play as a heavyweight villain that's a freaking Viking.

 

[fogbadge]

I'm pretty much the only one who wants The Shake King so I can play as a heavyweight villain that's a freaking Viking.
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hes not the only character thatd fit that category

 

[Mamboo07]

hes not the only character thatd fit that category

Lord Fredrik from Donkey Kong as well?

 

[fogbadge]

Lord Fredrik from Donkey Kong as well?

Exactly the character I was thinking of. I suppose the two of the are in very similar positions

 

[Oracle Link]

well, we got a first party

but it's probably the last 1st party, unfortunately. And good for anyone who wanted Pyra but I was not one of those people

Pyra seems interesting like an interesting character though

I do hate how it seems that Pyra and Mythra have 2 diffrent Movesets which means they now have as many movests as Kirby and zelda and 2 more movesets than Mother and Sonic

Also Bwd and a Zelda Rep should have been in before her espeacily because i think for Casual Bwd and Impa would be more interesting
(and for Kirby zelda fans too of Course)

 

[Otoad64]

I've seen some people think this will be it for first parties. Which is ridiculous since Smash's finales aren't where they get all the money from.

I don't know I just can't see us getting another first party. And it has nothing to do with Smash's finales

I do hate how it seems that Pyra and Mythra have 2 diffrent Movesets which means they now have as many movests as Kirby and zelda and 2 more movesets than Mother and Sonic

Also Bwd and a Zelda Rep should have been in before her espeacily because i think for Casual Bwd and Impa would be more interesting
(and for Kirby zelda fans too of Course)

eh, I feel like Ganondorf's moveset is mostly unique at this point. I've also heard people say only the specials are different between them

Yeah, Bandana Dee and Impa probsbly should've come first but I can see why they did them

Also, just realised that since Pyra & Mythra are officially considered different characters, each with a different number, Xenoblade now has as many fighters as Kirby and Donkey Kong. Weird

 

[Otoad64]

so, I actually am feeling a bit more confident in a First Party, though if we do get one I feel like it will be Garchomp or some other Pokemon

 

[fogbadge]

so, I actually am feeling a bit more confident in a First Party, though if we do get one I feel like it will be Garchomp or some other Pokemon

garchomp? no other remake has effected the pokemon choice

 

[Otoad64]

garchomp? no other remake has effected the pokemon choice

maybe, but I feel like it's too late for Galar and too early for Legends.

if it isn't a mon I think the 1st party will be Euden or Bandana Dee

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Well, I think Pyra/Mythra is Ultimate's last Nintendo newcomer. It sucks, but realistically, I don't think we are getting anymore Nintendo characters in this game.

 

[Oracle Link]

maybe, but I feel like it's too late for Galar and too early for Legends.

if it isn't a mon I think the 1st party will be Euden or Bandana Dee

whos Euden?

 

[Otoad64]

whos Euden?

he's from some Nintendo made mobile game called Dragalia Lost

 

[fogbadge]

maybe, but I feel like it's too late for Galar and too early for Legends.

if it isn't a mon I think the 1st party will be Euden or Bandana Dee

It’s only too late when gen 9 starts

 

[Otoad64]

It’s only too late when gen 9 starts

well it's because how much they'e focusing on Sinnoh

adding someone like Cinderace would be odd

 

[fogbadge]

well it's because how much they'e focusing on Sinnoh

adding someone like Cinderace would be odd

Says who?

 

[Otoad64]

Says who?

well it just seems that TPC is pretty much done with the Galar region

especially with how much they're promoting Sinnoh with two whole games, a Sinnoh mon seems quite likely

 

[fogbadge]

well it just seems that TPC is pretty much done with the Galar region

especially with how much they're promoting Sinnoh with two whole games, a Sinnoh mon seems quite likely

I don’t think they are. They’ve announced two games set in it that’s it

 

[Otoad64]

I don’t think they are. They’ve announced two games set in it that’s it

that's WAY more than usual, especially since one is such a departure, one would think they would use Kanto

 

[Mariomaniac45213]

Honestly were more 1st parties than I was expecting since the start of fighters pass 1 with Joker and Reggie's comments at the Game Awards and just based on Smash 4's DLC newcomers.

So honestly if Pyra/Mythra are the last 1st party newcomers I can't complain. Are their still 1st party characters I'd like to see? Of course, there always will be. Also did these 1st party picks seem kinda promotional? Yeah but thats not necessarily a bad thing considering the 1st party characters we got in the base game.

Overall Im satisfied.

 

[Guynamednelson]

realistically

Thinking "realistically" hasn't helped us correctly guess the DLC.

 

[fogbadge]

that's WAY more than usual, especially since one is such a departure, one would think they would use Kanto

But surely by this logic let’s go would have made inceneroar less likely

 

[Otoad64]

But surely by this logic let’s go would have made inceneroar less likely

see I don't even really think it would be to promote the remakes. I think they add a Sinnoh mon for the same reasons the new Sinnoh games even exist

 

[fogbadge]

see I don't even really think it would be to promote the remakes. I think they add a Sinnoh mon for the same reasons the new Sinnoh games even exist

Well the remakes exist cause it’s their turn which doesn’t apply to smash and we have no idea why legends is set in sinnoh