Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Yeah, Snake just like... throws himself on the ground when he does it. It looks really silly.
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The Captain Falcon Q&A Thread
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Smash Apprentice
Ness' is almost like a wavedash. Yoshi's too.
UzakiuzuG
Smash Journeyman
does 1st hit n-air to d air work?
lordhelmet
Smash Master
Decent frametrap but no.
At 0% FH Nair gives an average of ~12 free frames. Jump + Dair takes 21 frames to hit.
At higher percents you may have better frame advantage but I don't think so because it's a set knockback move.
UzakiuzuG
Smash Journeyman
...ugh thats not cool. 1more question if you use his down grab and the opponent di's away whats your best follow up?
lordhelmet
Smash Master
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
If he's DIing toward you, knee isn't a bad follow-up either if you buffer it. Not guaranteed, but hey, why not try throwing one out there if they're in the perfect position in the airspace?
PZ
Smash Lord
who can cf nair after grab releases?
Also is nair<uair a combo if they DI u or high enough at low percents? On heavies like falco nair<grab low percents?
Also is nair<uair a combo if they DI u or high enough at low percents? On heavies like falco nair<grab low percents?
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
First hit Nair -> Uair on the ground?
Also, do you mean ground release or air release?
I don't see how an air release -> nair -> uair would work.
Also, do you mean ground release or air release?
I don't see how an air release -> nair -> uair would work.
PZ
Smash Lord
not first hit FF nair<uair and yes air grab release. Ofcourse ive tested these at 0-10 so it could work lol probably not reason im asking
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
It shouldn't work.
If you're talking about the first hit of the Nair giving them hitstun in order to perform a Uair, no. You would have to hit them in a way where the second part of the Nair wouldn't hit them and cause knockback, which considering you're not hitting the ground to cancel it, they would have the reaction time to avoid it.
Nairing them within short hop distance -> fast fall -> buffered uair would be decent follow-up, but not guaranteed.
EDIT: However, thinking about it from 0%, you might be able to Nair -> keep moving in the direction they're knocked back after the second hit -> double jump rising Uair.
Still not guaranteed though, I would say.
If you're talking about the first hit of the Nair giving them hitstun in order to perform a Uair, no. You would have to hit them in a way where the second part of the Nair wouldn't hit them and cause knockback, which considering you're not hitting the ground to cancel it, they would have the reaction time to avoid it.
Nairing them within short hop distance -> fast fall -> buffered uair would be decent follow-up, but not guaranteed.
EDIT: However, thinking about it from 0%, you might be able to Nair -> keep moving in the direction they're knocked back after the second hit -> double jump rising Uair.
Still not guaranteed though, I would say.
PZ
Smash Lord
It looked like it I guess ill ask my friend to try to buffer a dodge when I do it but yea wut ur edit said FF nair both hits<buffer the DJ rising uair. Its not that theres not enough stun or theres too much lag after the nair it depends on DI but even then you could just nair juggle or nair<grab.
Ive only done it on dk, bowser, not sure about D3 but eh, and a few other characters that are big or can somehow get hit by both hits on the floor. Btw nair is actually very viable against falco.
BigLord
Smash Lord
Mario's cape is effective/damaging since which frame?
Because I fought a Mario and he tried to cape me everytime I falcon Dive'd, and got him everytime. Falcon Dive has grabbing super-armor, so I got curious about this...
Because I fought a Mario and he tried to cape me everytime I falcon Dive'd, and got him everytime. Falcon Dive has grabbing super-armor, so I got curious about this...
lordhelmet
Smash Master
You'd have to look at his frame data.
Mario has to cape us when the grab hitbox isn't out. I'm not sure if it matters where he capes us, but if he does when the grabbox is out, we'll get turned around but still grab him. I'm bad at explaining things but it looks funny :D
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Falcon Dive doesn't have super armor, it just has a lot of range. If it connects with a character's hurtbox before their attack's hitbox can hit Falcon's (which they have to be disjointed to do), than it cancels out their animation completely and grabs them.
lordhelmet
Smash Master
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
This is where I got the super-armor reference from my last post.
I was just clarifying that.
lordhelmet
Smash Master
I think he just meant Grab Armor :/
BigLord
Smash Lord
Grab armor = Grab Super armor, in a way, right?
*shrugs* sorry for the confusion.
*shrugs* sorry for the confusion.
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Grabs just have priority and if it connects and starts the grabbing animation before it's canceled by another move, it continues- even if you 'exchange hits'. I'm assuming that's what we could call this if you take damage but the grab still connects.
Either way; grabs have priority, not super armor.
Either way; grabs have priority, not super armor.
BigLord
Smash Lord
Have you never grabbed someone out of a F-smash, getting hit by the smash in the process? You take the damage, but you still grab the opponent. That's what I meant with super-armor.
Regardless, no point in discussing this further.
Regardless, no point in discussing this further.
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BigLord
Smash Lord
Exactly that.
10exactamondos
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Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
^ This.
But I know what you mean, BigLord. Just saying it gets out-prioritized by a grab is better though. It works with normal grabs too, not just Falcon Dive.
BigLord
Smash Lord
Yeah, that's why it's called "Grab armor", lol.
Anyway, that's one of the reasons why Falcon Dive is actually a nice recovery and a nice surprise attack.
Anyway, that's one of the reasons why Falcon Dive is actually a nice recovery and a nice surprise attack.
. fail
UzakiuzuG
Smash Journeyman
Anyone think that brawl is dead..?
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
Well, I wouldn't say that it's dead, but a huge part of the community died off this year. Even I've stopped playing it regularly. lol.
lordhelmet
Smash Master
Michigan is actually steppin' it up in tournament attendance.
I have noticed that most of the wifi kids stopped playing and smashers aren't playing wifi as much in general.
Is it me or has wifi been becoming laggier as well?
I have noticed that most of the wifi kids stopped playing and smashers aren't playing wifi as much in general.
Is it me or has wifi been becoming laggier as well?
lordhelmet
Smash Master
*assumes you're referring to my post*
Did I use "wifi" and "dead" in the same sentence?
yes.................
lordhelmet
Smash Master
You got me.
No, it was just an observation calm down.
No, it was just an observation calm down.
BigLord
Smash Lord
Here in Portugal we only have like 8 smash players, and they're divided in 2 groups: north and center (south doesn't have any players).
Most of the casual players don't like the organized smash-scene (they mostly like Street Fighter for 1v1s, they only play smash to have 4 player FFAs).
We've been trying to improve ourselves and going to foreign tournaments (we've been to Sevilha for a Spain tournament last summer), but other than that, we can't even organize tournaments... almost nobody appears.
Brawl isn't dead around here, but it feels zombie'ish.
Most of the casual players don't like the organized smash-scene (they mostly like Street Fighter for 1v1s, they only play smash to have 4 player FFAs).
We've been trying to improve ourselves and going to foreign tournaments (we've been to Sevilha for a Spain tournament last summer), but other than that, we can't even organize tournaments... almost nobody appears.
Brawl isn't dead around here, but it feels zombie'ish.
UzakiuzuG
Smash Journeyman
Idk it just seems that way, I go to the fox,sonic, and of course the FALCON board abd nothing has been posted there in awhile. Well nothing like useful wise. idk compared to melee crowd seems dead. lol it's only the second or 3 year?
teluoborg
Smash Otter
I don't understand your logic : low/mid tier metagame is representative of the health of a game ?
If so then why do you compare it to melee where the metagame revolves around the top 6 ?
TL;DR : lolwut
If so then why do you compare it to melee where the metagame revolves around the top 6 ?
TL;DR : lolwut
Darky-Sama
Smash Lord
He means, almost three brawl boards have got almost completely inactive over the past few weeks, generally around the same time. I wouldn't say that the community is 'dying', but there's been a mass of inactivity occurring in all the boards. lol
Sovereign
Game Reaper
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