The Captain Falcon Q&A Thread

[Kishin]

Was is already discovered that a full hop d-air is able to hit Ganon and combos into a sweet knee at about 82-108 percent? The original short hop lag-cancel D-air to sweet knee doesn't work at higher percentages right? But against Ganon a full hop d-air can combo into a sweet knee too.

 

[Skip2MaLoo]

I couldn't. I tried for a couple of minutes, and you really can't use anything more than one aerial during a SH. During a full jump, U/B-Air + Raptor Boost works, but not in a SH.

Bair timing is harder but could possibly be more useful. As soon as you jump try uair then RB. Do you play with tap jump off or on?

 

[Face124]

Can anyone help me find the Falcon boards awards thread from ages ago, I don't remember who made it and it gonna take ages to find it

 

[Hiza]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=214153&highlight=awards

Falcon Superlatives Thread

 

[eRonin]

^Wow, I totally missed out on that thread... awww
I think that was when I was still maining Falco. The lesser falcon.

 

[Wogrim]

Was is already discovered that a full hop d-air is able to hit Ganon and combos into a sweet knee at about 82-108 percent? The original short hop lag-cancel D-air to sweet knee doesn't work at higher percentages right? But against Ganon a full hop d-air can combo into a sweet knee too.

Ayaz suggested that a while ago, but I don't think anyone tested which characters are tall enough for it to work on and at what percents it works.

 

[RjPunch]

How many variations of the falcon punch can you do? O Canada

 

[eRonin]

Wogrim's video showed most of the possibilities, I think.
To be honest, I think the move isn't nearly versatile enough to have that many uses...
I just use it to punish, sometimes...

 

[RjPunch]

I understand that it just that these are the ones that I use the most. I'm just posting some basic ones and using it against opponents.

 

[t3h n00b]

Dude you should have let me help I think the stuff you posted is more or less in someone's complete Falcon guide. Everyone knows like the reverse FP, and the 360 if you b-reverse it, but there are some good times to use it.

 

[eRonin]

RAR 360 falcon punch is fun to edge guard with =D

 

[t3h n00b]

I love falcon punching people who raptor boost onto the stage in dittos

 

[RjPunch]

Should have but i'm going to work on it today.

 

[illinialex24]

Should I main Falcon?????

 

[Skip2MaLoo]

I personally wouldn't recommend anyone main brawl falcon, as it is a curse. Once you start, you will not stop.

 

[illinialex24]

I personally wouldn't recommend anyone main brawl falcon, as it is a curse. Once you start, you will not stop.

Thats not an issue.

 

[eRonin]

Thats not an issue.

What is the issue that is preventing you from doing it? Assuming you main Jiggly now, a drop of tier position by one shouldn't hurt ^^
You could be the guy who mains all the bottom tier characters =D

 

[illinialex24]

What is the issue that is preventing you from doing it? Assuming you main Jiggly now, a drop of tier position by one shouldn't hurt ^^
You could be the guy who mains all the bottom tier characters =D

Read my sig and I think you'll find that impossible.

 

[Noodlehead]

Should I main Falcon?????

main him, eat mks and snakes. destroy tier whores, n00bs, campers, and johners. it feels so great when you pull out the pawnch.

 

[Face124]

I think LinIsKorean is inactive now, but I'm not sure. either way, the video thread hasn't been updated for a long time.

should we make a new video thread?

 

[eRonin]

making a new video thread isn't going to solve any problem regarding inactivity in the video thread...

also, main Falcon, illianex =3
You're here often enough
We'd feel as though nothing has changed...

 

[Brave Hippo]

Guys, I have tried to main Falcon. I have tried and I have failed. Sadly, even though I know I will get wrecked when I use him, I cannot stop. There HAS to be a way to stop using Falcon. What is it?

 

[Player-3]

Guys, I have tried to main Falcon. I have tried and I have failed. Sadly, even though I know I will get wrecked when I use him, I cannot stop. There HAS to be a way to stop using Falcon. What is it?

stop playing brawl

 

[Brave Hippo]

stop playing brawl

Your good. I was hoping to get more of an answer like,"Slowly move up the tier list so the transition wont be so heartbreaking". Now I have a real question. After reading Ayaz's advice thread, he mentioned the Falcon Kick is good for priority wars. My question is how good is the priority on that move, exactly? We talking MK priority or Mario priority here? Because if it even comes CLOSE to being better than all his other moves other than the jab, Im going to have to start using it.

 

[Player-3]

Your good. I was hoping to get more of an answer like,"Slowly move up the tier list so the transition wont be so heartbreaking". Now I have a real question. After reading Ayaz's advice thread, he mentioned the Falcon Kick is good for priority wars. My question is how good is the priority on that move, exactly? We talking MK priority or Mario priority here? Because if it even comes CLOSE to being better that all his other moves other than the jab, Im going to have to start using it.

doesnt work

i have like 4 mains now...

marf, falko, and sawnik

and some fox for fun because shine spiking is a *****

EDIT:

falcon too

 

[Brave Hippo]

If I ever want to WIN in a tourney, I use my main Olimar. Im unstoppable with the little guy. Normally though, I use CF for the hell of it. hahaha

 

[illinialex24]

Yeah Falcon is too much fun

 

[Skip2MaLoo]

I only main one character, luigi. for the last time, NOBODY MAINS FALCON, HE MAINS YOU

edit: with all seriousness, go for it.

 

[eRonin]

Your good. I was hoping to get more of an answer like,"Slowly move up the tier list so the transition wont be so heartbreaking". Now I have a real question. After reading Ayaz's advice thread, he mentioned the Falcon Kick is good for priority wars. My question is how good is the priority on that move, exactly? We talking MK priority or Mario priority here? Because if it even comes CLOSE to being better than all his other moves other than the jab, Im going to have to start using it.

I'm pretty sure it outprioritises Tornado unless they're mashing b...
so if you anticipate a tornado coming just do it.

 

[Skip2MaLoo]

I'm pretty sure it outprioritises Tornado unless they're mashing b...
so if you anticipate a tornado coming just do it.

wtf, no it doesnt.

 

[Roager]

I'm pretty sure it outprioritises Tornado unless they're mashing b...
so if you anticipate a tornado coming just do it.

Um... No. No it does not. Unless you mean an aerial FK that hits the top of MK. Then it just hits MK before he hits you.

 

[illinialex24]

Ok for everyone here:

The tornado is a complicated move. It has a very weird hitbox/hurtbox system and it is fairly messed up.

On the sides, it has a very strong hitbox and almost no hurtbox, only a very long disjoint will allow you to hit through it with perfect timing (Marth F-smash for example). On the bottom, it has a hurtbox but also a fairly substantial hitbox so you will generally get sucked in but a decent hit can go through.

However, on the top it is very weak. It has a huge hurtbox above him and it has no hitbox to speak of directly above. Almost any attack that can hit down through can punish the tornado, the issue is setting that up.

As the move continues, the priority of the move decreases. So pressing B to extend the length also makes it more punishable. This is why MK's try to get the first hit in the standard hitbox, the one where it would still happen if you didn't press B and retreat after so they can't get punished.

Use all these factors to understand tornado. It is a very powerful foe.

 

[eRonin]

ah, maybe I was hallucinating. =(
but thanks Illianex =3

 

[illinialex24]

ah, maybe I was hallucinating. =(
but thanks Illianex =3

It go through the very ending of tornado, because that has moderate priority. Or if for some reason he was above it could go through it likely. Or if you came straight down the top. All those address weak points in the tornado, which can be exploited if you careful. I recommend shielding it and forcing him to approach you another way. Try shielding it and use uair imo, your thoughts??

 

[Player-3]

It go through the very ending of tornado, because that has moderate priority. Or if for some reason he was above it could go through it likely. Or if you came straight down the top. All those address weak points in the tornado, which can be exploited if you careful. I recommend shielding it and forcing him to approach you another way. Try shielding it and use uair imo, your thoughts??

run away from it and dodge it using falcons speed, then grab

/discussion

 

[illinialex24]

run away from it and dodge it using falcons speed, then grab

/discussion

Except for the fact that he will give you shield pressure and then he will go away. He's gonna give you shield pressure so you can't just screw with him like that. If he doesn't, its way too easy to punish him. And trust me, if you start running at him after he starts retreating, he'll go after you again once in a while. And you will be punished.

 

[Player-3]

Except for the fact that he will give you shield pressure and then he will go away. He's gonna give you shield pressure so you can't just screw with him like that. If he doesn't, its way too easy to punish him. And trust me, if you start running at him after he starts retreating, he'll go after you again once in a while. And you will be punished.

i said dodge not sheild..

and it was a generic plan, like a battle plan

tactics on the other hand, those are different

 

[EPIC-FAIL]

If you time it right, you can hit him with a downward angled F smash. I have tried it at tournaments and it works, but you better time it right.


Side note: Has anyone tried RB in their ledge game. I went to a tournament with a slight ace up my sleeve. While on the edge, I pulled away from the edge and RB away from the stage (done to a MK while in his jump animation. I know, that was risky, but I did it) and it caught him off guard, thus resulting in a spike.

1. Does anyone approve?

2. Your thoughts?

 

[Player-3]

If you time it right, you can hit him with a downward angled F smash. I have tried it at tournaments and it works, but you better time it right.


Side note: Has anyone tried RB in their ledge game. I went to a tournament with a slight ace up my sleeve. While on the edge, I pulled away from the edge and RB away from the stage (done to a MK while in his jump animation. I know, that was risky, but I did it) and it caught him off guard, thus resulting in a spike.

1. Does anyone approve?

2. Your thoughts?

you can angle falcons forward smash? i didnt know that.

1.
No.

2.
It was stupid and lucky.
unless you had a 2 stock lead on him, in which case it was win

 

[t3h n00b]

i said dodge not sheild..

and it was a generic plan, like a battle plan

tactics on the other hand, those are different

Player-3's word is law here.

If you time it right, you can hit him with a downward angled F smash. I have tried it at tournaments and it works, but you better time it right.


Side note: Has anyone tried RB in their ledge game. I went to a tournament with a slight ace up my sleeve. While on the edge, I pulled away from the edge and RB away from the stage (done to a MK while in his jump animation. I know, that was risky, but I did it) and it caught him off guard, thus resulting in a spike.

1. Does anyone approve?

2. Your thoughts?

It's been thrown around a lot, it's risky, but obviously you knew when to use it and didn't spam it a million times beforehand since it hit, so good job

Edit: owait away from the stage? I probably wouldn't do that again but it did hit...