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The Botanical Gardens of the Mushroom Kingdom

Are you awesome?

  • Well DUH!

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Peachkid

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Everyone got eliminated because I didn't enter. Plain and simple. Having me enter the tourney bolsters the confidence of the Peach players and makes them do better.

Nice meeting everyone that went. I wish I could have interacted more with y'all and wasn't as antisocial but, eh maybe next time yeah? **** not being able to friendly for the entire tourney.
 

Queen B. Kyon

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Everyone got eliminated because I didn't enter. Plain and simple. Having me enter the tourney bolsters the confidence of the Peach players and makes them do better.

Nice meeting everyone that went. I wish I could have interacted more with y'all and wasn't as antisocial but, eh maybe next time yeah? **** not being able to friendly for the entire tourney.
its obvious because none of the true ******* was tbere.
 

Juushichi

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Absolute shoutouts to Dark Peach and Illmatic. I hope D Pch blowing up K Prime was recorded, I'll love to see that set.

I was hoping to see Illmatic vs MikeHAZE, but it seemed like Reflex was playing very well. Ill, can you go through a complete recap of your bracket experience? I really want to know your impressions of X, Reflex and the tourney runner-up Nietono and how they've changed how you view the MU's.

Same to you too actually, D. Pch.
 

Pikaville

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Armada is so damn good.

Hard luck Brawl Peaches :(

Anyway in other news I got with a guy on Saturday who said he would never get with me.

Fun times.
 

Peachkid

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And me. I left too early. Did everyone forget that I went? Dx not like it matters though.

:phone:
 

deepseadiva

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Lol! Ya'll are beautiful.

How was meeting Leon? Does he even speak English?

:phone:
 

Peachkid

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I think he did. I over heard him speaking English. Also most people from France usually can speak English.

Edit: does he still play peach? I only saw him play marth o:
 

Peachkid

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Oh word? I didn't see that match. I was mostly busy looking for a tv to play on or being bored that I couldn't play friendlies :/

:phone:
 

z00ted

The Assault of Laughter ﷼
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My lips were chapped as hell at this tournament :c
omfg the weather... nononononononono i hate new jersey

Pool 1

2-0 kassandranova :metaknight:

2-0 steep :mario2:

2-0 megalodon :snake:

0-2 darc :marth:

Pool 2

2-0 player-1 :diddy: game 1 was close, game 2 i timed out (pretty close)

2-1 yukhoe :wario: :peach: he was a good japanese player. im convinced peach vs wario is +2 if played aggressively i almost jv 3 stocked game 3

2-0 dapuffster :jigglypuff: :diddy: 3 stock game one then game 2 was close

0-2 ally :metaknight: i played pretty well... i think i could have won game 2 but i died at 27%

Bracket

0-2 nietono :olimar: he just got 6 purple pikmins and my life was destroyed. i couldnt approach

2-0 X :sonic: espy trained me for this in the past

0-2 reflex :pt: I don't know how to fight squirtle. It's like a better MK in the air cause he can fair and bair, plus u air is soo quick. he didn't use wario cause he saw me do really well against yukhoe. squirtle was the only character he used against me

Money Matches ($5)

lost to leon's :marth: 0-2, but he taught me a ton of stuff afterwards

beat leon's :peach: 2-0

fun tournament
it was really slow and no friendlies / money matches were allowed so i was bored a bit at first and tired

Shoutouts

dark pch, it was nice meeting you and I respect you a lot more now. i hope you consider us friends. amazing job doing so well in tournament and surprising everyone

2link, you're a really modest and awesome person. great job against brood

nicole, you are bad (jk, your pool was really hard)

nordal, i love you

leon, you are extremely cool. thank you for all the peach tricks / tips and you really seem interested in smash and maining peach again. i know you will be amazing

peachkid, we rarely talked.. but you seem really nice!

33rd/400

sorta pleased with this placing
i think i was capable of 17th if i was playing my very best, but reflex went squirtle lol
 

Peachkid

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I wish I got to talk to everyone more. ;-; I couldn't find anyone some of the time :s I'm thinking about going to whobo in June though :D

:phone:
 

Nordal

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I had fun meeting all of you. The people at this tournament were amazing. The tournament itself was terrible.

The seeding was garbage. The amount of setups and size of the venue were inappropriate for 400 ****ing people. The times they'd have us get there and then leave were horrible (early mornings and late nights). A lot of people ended up playing like *** in tournament (myself included) because we were horribly unprepared due to lack of sleep and no stations to warm up on. They essentially said "be at the venue at 9 am after we kept you here at 3 am last night, and then we'll have you start your death pools immediately".

Peachy shoutouts~

2link- I love you and you give good hugs. 2-1 mother****er, and my nairs are so much better. I'M SO SAD I DIDN'T TAKE THE PICTURE WITH YOU GUYS :( :( :( :( :(

Nicole- You're so down to earth and I had a blast chilling with you while pools were going on. I felt bad coming up and talking to you since so many guys were swarming you (for obvious reasons) and you deserve at least some peace at tournaments, but at least I was only interested in talking about this game, lol. I'D HAVE KILLED YOU IN THE LAST GAME OF OUR SET IF YOU DIDN'T KILL ME WITH A BOMB AT 29%. DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH even matchup DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH DUH

But I loved your peach and I'm totally stealing your turnip game, and I hope I convinced you that the pikachu matchup is only free if it isn't me (duh rhyming). I'm sad you didn't get to see my peach but then again, only one or two people did. We'll both make it out of pools next time (I hope).

Vinnie- Thank you for housing, for the ride, and for being an awesome person. The stoned doubles night was fun and I had a blast meeting/hanging out with you. Don't be upset about the tournament- it was ran horribly and you got gayed HARD by the two people you played. We'll bake and bake next time (hopefully in california).

Illmatic- Even though the TV we played on was super bright and made turnips/t jolts difficult to see, I had a blast playing you, thought all our matches were intense, and learned a LOT about the peach ditto. I'm glad some people don't have completely different online personas, because it's like I had already known you for months and we were just picking up where we left off. I had a blast kicking it with you and I hope you come to Norcal sometime. Also in response to your shoutout- I love you too.

Dark.Pch- 2-1 ;o. You actually are good at the ditto and you're one of the most animated players I've seen, lol. Playing brawl must be like exercise for you or something.
 

z00ted

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I was hoping to see Illmatic vs MikeHAZE, but it seemed like Reflex was playing very well. Ill, can you go through a complete recap of your bracket experience? I really want to know your impressions of X, Reflex and the tourney runner-up Nietono and how they've changed how you view the MU's.
In round one pools, Darc beat me pretty solidly. I was playing like a complete idiot and wanted to just do whatever I wanted to him. It wasn't working at all. Too many apparent fairs on shield, terrible spacing, etc etc. Marth is really hard for me, plus he practices with Nicole. I lost 0-2, getting second seed. In round one pools I also beat KassandraNova, Steep, and Megalodon.

After advancing out of round one pools with second seed I had to play Ally. I decided to go against him first so I could really just warm up and play a hard set so the others would seem a bit easier. Game one I think I got two stocked.. I'm not too sure. I know for a fact though that I was playing really well... it's just that his Metaknight would NOT die. It survived until 235%, if I remember correctly on his first stock.. and that could have been two whole stocks if I figured out a way to just kill him a bit earlier. I think Ally was impressed by my Peach cause he would say stuff regarding my spacing and quick aerials or whatever. He's just like.. the epitome of a smart player. Everything he does is planned and works in his favor like 85% of the time. Game two I did even better than game one, but I died at 27% due to that dumb parasol rule if your opponent is over 110%. I took him to last stock mid-percent and I think I could have even maybe won if I didn't die so early on one of my stocks. Metaknight is a -3 matchup for Peach.

Player-1 was a really solid Diddy. He's actually really underrated and really impressive once he gets his momentum going. The thing is, he's a momentum based player, for the most part. When he was doing well... he was doing really well.. but when I was doing well.. it hurt him really badly. Like, I would do one huge 50%+ combo and you could tell he was scared.. but then he would do the same thing back to me. If you just came into the match near the end.. you would think that it was a close set.. but in reality we just took turns combo-video'ing each other back and forth. It's hard to explain, but the matches were just like pretty close and really fun. It was enjoyable playing him, and it could have went either way. I think I just had a few smarter reads / faster inputs on a few situations and I knew that I had to get some quick damage and time him out game two before he figured that out. I learned a lot about banana control during this set. I won 2-0. Peach slightly beats Diddy Kong.

Yukhoe had a really interesting Peach and Wario. He went Peach game one against me and I two stocked it. It was doing some alright stuff, but it wasn't anything worth mentioning or researching into. I just basically was more in sync with my character than he was. Game two he went Wario and was winning pretty solidly on Frigate until I made a huge comeback and had a pretty nice lead until I Peach bombed offstage completely accidentally and had a fart go right up my nose last stock. Game three, I was just like.. "time to win!" I think this is where I played my absolute best the entire tournament and I almost JV three stocked his Wario on Battlefield. He looked a bit upset after I had beaten him.. like his skill wasn't enough to beat me... regardless of his knowledge on my character because he co-mained her. Wario is a really interesting matchup, but I don't think many Peach players will ever truly take advantage of what she excels so well in. An aggressive Peach can make Wario look terrible due to her amazing spacing, quick move output, and grab release up-smash. I won 2-1. I could see Peach being +1 against Wario, but I think my playstyle makes it +2.

Nietono I played right away. I was hoping to do really well maybe even cause an upset, but it was apparent that he just knew a lot more about the matchup then me. I've always went fairly close with all USA Olimars (Denti, Dabuz, Rich Brown, etc etc) but Nietono was in like some extreme camp/quick playstyle and it was too much for me. He basically sacrificed his entire first stock to get only purple pikmins (he had six in his line game one) and then it was like a gamebreaker or something. I literally had no options to approach due to him throwing three in the air at one time and then just spamming f-smash or grab if I tried approaching from the ground. I tried to kill them, but I would take more damage attempting to do so, cause he could just hit me while I was doing my attacks. Plus, none of Peach's moves (especially when stale) do 15% consistently, so it wasn't even killing the purples. I tried to also camp with turnips but the purples just went right through them. He made it feel like an impossible matchup to win, and he knew it really well (farm purples). I lost 0-2. I'm not too sure about this matchup. All American Olimars have made me think this matchup is even, but the Japanese have shown me that there are a ton of things American Olimars don't know how to manage around against Peach. There also are probably tons of things I don't know as a Peach player in the matchup. Nietono is just a much better player than me at the moment, so I probably got outplayed.. but there was something very evil that he was doing to me. It felt like a -3 with all those purples..

X was really annoying to fight. He just aimed to time me out or camp me super hard with dumb spin-dash stuff and gimmicks on the top of stages via spring or whatever but I wasn't having any of it. All I did was approach and go super aggressive and it worked for the most part. Damage input was definitely leaning towards my favor... I would do like 45%+ in one combo, compared to his like 30% and on top of this he couldn't kill me too easily. I just understood what I had to do to beat him and it worked. He's an amazing player, but I just think I wanted to win the set more than he did. I won 2-0. It felt like an even matchup.

Reflex saw me beat Yukhoe pretty badly so he didn't go Wario versus me. It was a really smart decision because Wario is one of my favorite matchups and I have no idea what to do versus a top level squirtle. He only went squirtle and basically exposed me regardless of fatigue. I felt like I wasn't even thinking the entire set.. he would just maneuver past all of my setups, take me into the air via u-tilt or something, and then just go crazy on Peach's terrible floaty design and horrible airdodge. I felt helpless the entire set and it wasn't too much fun for me. I feel like I made a terrible impression on him because he was just taking full advantage on me not having any type of matchup experience on that kind of level. He's an amazing player, and it was really hard to do anything. I lost 0-2. Peach loses to Squirtle really badly.. it's probably a -2. She beats Ivysaur and Charizard +2, though.

Leon's Peach was really good. Probably one of the best I've played in 100% give it my all Peach dittos. It's just like finding one of America's top players using Peach.. but it's really cool because almost all of America's top players hate Peach. It was a really rare experience to encounter and I enjoyed it a lot. During our set.. I would make these huge leads from just doing insane combos.. I think I even got a small u-air string read on him. But he was much better at making those small decisions to read my habits. His offstage Peach game is really different and something I'm going to look into and try to understand. He really likes to stagespike his opponents by using fair and nair while facing the stage in a float. He always loves d-tilt and f-tilt and uses it a lot. It was a really fun set, I won 2-0. He told me I was the only person to ever beat him in the ditto.
 

z00ted

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It's just a really good team.

I already have all of the technical aspects of Brawl down. I'm quick and my reaction time is great. I need to work on downloading player habits, getting really big reads, and understanding more options because the character I use has more options. Plus, Marth covers a lot of Peach's bad matchups.. especially with MK gone.
 

Eddie G

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Good choice. Marth's linear fighting style will help you refine your ability to make reads since he's so dependent on them to get his hits. If you have any questions feel free to ask me anytime and I'll answer as best as I can.

:phone:
 

z00ted

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Awesome.

Brawl is going to be a lot more fun now that I can work my way up on a character again.
 

GHNeko

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Tbh, imo it sounds like nientono simply cp'd you mid match by absuing specific pikmin and isn't that far ahead of you in terms of skill.

But that's the impression I got from how you worded you post. Idk. I'd have to watch the set and grind frame data and hitbox data lol.

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Juushichi

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He won one and was the only person to beat Leon in the ditto, so I think it worked out for him.

Very insightful read, Ill. Thank you. I was talking to Ryker on Skype (AL PR'd Falco) and he was breaking down Reflex as much as he could to me and it seems like everyone who plays him seems to come away with the same impression. Good **** at APEX and I'm glad that you're happy with your placing. I was certainly rooting for you the whole way.

KB, ya' really should come down to Columbus some time. I swear, I'vent seen you around the state for like years, dude.
 

SupaSairentoZ7℠

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Sounds like everyone had a good time. I wouldn't had mind taking some shots at some Peach dittos with myself (And finally not through Wifail...) just for fun and see how I would do.
 
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