The BlazBlue Thread: all the imports!

[LivewiresXe]

Yeah, I already saw that. Actually, think I already saw and commented, lol.

 

[Lore]

There's only 3 people in the CO BB scene.
4 if you count Zajice who only plays it because I force him to.

What area of Colorado are you in? I go there a few times during the summer each year.

 

[Spelt]

Lakewood in Jefferson county.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I got to play a couple people who knew what they were doing and a lot more people who didn't when I was in Colorado Springs. It was a side event at a smash tournament.

 

[Spelt]

That was probably during CS when people here actually played it.
Then MvC3 came out and everyone stopped caring.

 

[Lythium]

That happened to us too, but we didn't lose too many, fortunately.

And then there's some people we wish we could get rid of.

 

[dualseeker]

That was probably during CS when people here actually played it.
Then MvC3 came out and everyone stopped caring.

Yup, that's basically what happened when MvC3 came out and then when Ultimate came out. Seems people like Mahvel over BlazBlue XD. I like the old MvC2 game, though; it was broken as heck but it was still fun to play.

 

[Lythium]

That's because a) Capcom game and b) people think BB is really hard for some reason.

 

[Spelt]

Yeah. Depressing.
Even if we had another bb tournament around here I don't think I'd go because everybody just trashes on the game the whole time while we're playing and it's just not fun.

 

[dualseeker]

Yeah, that's what all my friends said about BB ^^;. They said it was too hard....

They said they were gonna practice, but they started playing Marvel 5 minutes later XD.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

It always came naturally to me compared to other fighters.

 

[Rutger]

That's because a) Capcom game and b) people think BB is really hard for some reason.

The long combos and all the gauges maybe?

Even though the long combos are in UMvC3.

Maybe they just don't want to put the effort into it. :/

 

[Lythium]

Well, since we're going serious discussion, here's your answer: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/show...your-opinion&p=1199365&viewfull=1#post1199365 You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink, etc, etc. Also, you are correct Rutger, some people just don't want to put the time in.

edit: And come on, how often do you really see long combos in Marvel, outside of combo videos? Even on streams. I bet I could do Wesker's BnB with my face.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Well, you'd actually be surprised how often I see long combos in Marvel. But I do hate how a bunch of people just abandoned BB. Like a bunch to Marvel, some now to KOF (though I totally get liking that game), and a bunch of people are fawning over SG and have just said "screw this game" to BB as a result of it. Actually, that's my biggest problem with that game, in that it seems all the semi-casual BB players that are left in NA are jumping on the SG bandwagon just because and well...it's kinda depressing and annoying because BB really DOES deserve to get its due.

 

[Lythium]

Man, I really like KoF, but I have no drive to play it whatsoever.

I just can't be bothered learning three characters for a game that I might play once in a while. :I

 

[Meru.]

Hey Yaaay...

********

Get *****.

Well, since we're going serious discussion, here's your answer: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/show...your-opinion&p=1199365&viewfull=1#post1199365

This is frustratingly true!

 

[Rutger]

edit: And come on, how often do you really see long combos in Marvel, outside of combo videos? Even on streams. I bet I could do Wesker's BnB with my face.

I don't know, feels like every combo in that game is long to me.

I guess after looking at some videos they really are not that long, they just felt that way to me because of how much damage they do. :/

 

[Crusayer]

Same reasons why no one gives a crap what melty is in the US too ;~;.

I'd love to play BB but there's only a whole 2 people that play in my city apparently. And they only play somtimes every 2 weeks. No one even knows what melty is in my city.

I've always thought MvC3 combos were pretty long. Dante, Zero, Vergil, Spencer, to name a few seemingly have really long combos.

 

[Lythium]

Pretty much anyone who has multiple ways to relaunch or do loops in MvC3 has long combos. Doom and Mags too.

Anyway, yeah...

It's just disheartening. :I

 

[LivewiresXe]

Pretty much anyone who has multiple ways to relaunch or do loops in MvC3 has long combos. Doom and Mags too.

Anyway, yeah...

It's just disheartening. :I

Yeah, it's gotten so bad I'm half-considering taking up AE 2012 just so I'll have people to play with. That being said though, at least SCV will have people and SFxT will likely have a bunch. And well, failing that, I'm hoping KOF takes off.

 

[Crusayer]

I already caved and bought UMvC3.

:| I'll need to learn it relatively soon.

 

[Lythium]

Good luck, bro.

Playing that game makes my execution so bad. >_<

 

[Rutger]

I got UMvC3 too, I may actually play it more than I ever did with the first one. It's not going to be anything more than a casual game for me though.


Anyways, when will the BB tournament start up again?

 

[Crusayer]

I play melty and Falco. I can keep up my execution hopefully! That and I'll be playing Dante so I'm sure bold cancelling is technically demanding.

So when are we starting the tourney back up lyth :V

 

[Minato]

Good luck, bro.

Playing that game makes my execution so bad. >_<

How does it make your execution bad? It's not like it has shortcuts.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I dunno. All I tend to know is that apparently KOF makes your execution BETTER because of how precise and perfect you have to be with everything.

 

[Thino]

I think the only difference in execution between Marvel and BB is that Marvel is faster which makes it kinda harder on netplay, offline idk

 

[Lythium]

Crusayer, I was going to start it up again tomorrow, but I guess I might as well do it today.

edit: And here you go! http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=313565

How does it make your execution bad? It's not like it has shortcuts.

No idea. :I

I don't know why, but I find that it feels really mushy (for lack of a better word), and the input window is huge. I don't know how true that is, but it feels like that. Then when I go to play anything else, I can't do a thing. Especially KoF. I cannot switch from Marvel to KoF, it's bad, man.

edit: Marvel netplay is jokes.

 

[LivewiresXe]

In more upbeat, hilarious news that you might find funny Lythium, according to SRK, Nini Heart's apparently a girl now.

 

[Lythium]

Haha, I saw that.

Well, he does wear a pink hoodie a lot.

 

[LivewiresXe]

Haha, yeah. He forgot it in Montreal when he went up to T12, so it was like "what the..." when he didn't have it.

Anyway, I forgot to ask what your personal take on Relius was, since you're bound to have tried him by now.

 

[Spelt]

I would play Marvel if I could figure out a team to use. >_<
That and I'm poor and I don't want to spend money on ultimate, same with KOF.

SF I just don't want to play.

 

[Rutger]

Tao combos!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARaxWvBnaBU

looks so fun. :3

 

[Minato]

I think the only difference in execution between Marvel and BB is that Marvel is faster which makes it kinda harder on netplay, offline idk

Interesting, I actually think the opposite. Marvel being faster helps me more online compared to BB.
BB might be slower but it feels like I need to be more precise.

No idea. :I

I don't know why, but I find that it feels really mushy (for lack of a better word), and the input window is huge. I don't know how true that is, but it feels like that. Then when I go to play anything else, I can't do a thing. Especially KoF. I cannot switch from Marvel to KoF, it's bad, man.

Oh, okay. For me Marvel does have a bigger input window, but not by much.
I cycle between too many fighters so execution isn't too bad for me. KoF XIII feels like 3rd Strike with less shortcuts so it's not too hard. Older SNK games though I struggle with since I never got competitive with those.

 

[Lythium]

Haha, yeah. He forgot it in Montreal when he went up to T12, so it was like "what the..." when he didn't have it.

Anyway, I forgot to ask what your personal take on Relius was, since you're bound to have tried him by now.

Haha, yeah, it's not Nini if he's not rocking dat baby pink Concordia hoodie. <3

Um, Relius is interesting. I've played around with him a bit. He's got pretty decent range on his pokes, and his pressure is amazing done right. Some of the Ignis moves and specials eat up a lot of meter, so you really have to keep an eye on how much meter you have, and when to have her out or put her away. His defensive options are really mediocre, no reversal without meter. His combos are really easy. The only hard part of playing Relius imo is getting the hang of how his pressure works, and applying it. Other than that, he's pretty easy to pick up and pretty straightforward.

Oh, okay. For me Marvel does have a bigger input window, but not by much.
I cycle between too many fighters so execution isn't too bad for me. KoF XIII feels like 3rd Strike with less shortcuts so it's not too hard. Older SNK games though I struggle with since I never got competitive with those.

Haha, yeah, I really don't know why it happens, it just feels that way. Also, I try to just avoid playing it in general, since I don't care for it very much. No offense to any Marvel players, it's just not my cup of tea. :I

 

[Crusayer]

So does Relius feel like the maids?

He looks a bit like F-maids to me cept that you can't pull out a cactus to recharge your waifu meter.

 

[LivewiresXe]

You know, Crusayer, I can't help but think that last sentence there is a bit funny. Especially considering that it could easily be changed to something crude, like...

F-maids you can't pull out.

Yeah...I'm bored and should go to bed, lol.

 

[Lythium]

So does Relius feel like the maids?

He looks a bit like F-maids to me cept that you can't pull out a cactus to recharge your waifu meter.

Umm, a little. He's conceptually very similar. The only thing is, the other maid doesn't go away when you get hit. You pretty much can't summon Ignis in neutral at all, especially against someone who's smart enough to not give you the chance. Basically, throw out one of his 214 specials that summons Ignis, hope it connects in some way, so you can get in there and start your pressure. You really have to play his neutral game pretty carefully. He also doesn't really have much in the way of oki, as compared to the maids. Better oki than most in BB, sure, but not a whole lot that I know of. Also, he's pretty slow, in terms of movement (walking, dashing, etc.), and his hitbox is huge. Like, I'm willing to bet almost Hakumen huge.

I could be wrong about all those things though.

edit: Also, something random I learned yesterday: teching a throw will always unsummon Ignis, regardless of who was trying to throw their opponent. :I

 

[Rutger]

Gametrailers has some BBEX videos from SoCal Regionals. I wasn't going to post any, but then I heard what Relius says when he Astrals Carl in English.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/socal-regionals-blazblue-continuum/725412

Though that was a little while ago, so maybe you've already seen it somewhere else.

 

[LivewiresXe]

I thought Relius' Astral speech translated to "I will **** you"?

Edit: That being said, I'm glad there's actually extra dialogue during the Carl vs Relius matchup since during the Japanese gameplay Carl never seemed to sound pissed or whatever, so I just assumed there wasn't.