The Big MI Discussion Topic

[Zelow]

I guess we could use my place, but I'd have to clean stuff up first.
I won't be able to do it this next weekend I don't think since I'm going to be headed home to visit my parents.

since my plans fell through the floor i would still like a shot to play you guys if you get something together i am sure me and a couple of my buddies could show for sure.

also my smash party was still pretty good just to let you guys know don't feel to bad like 20 people showed.

 

[Flandy121]

Glad you still had a good turn out Zelow I kinda felt like a duche bag for not coming. I was in marching band for Grand Valley but I dropped it so now I'll have more time for smash lol. Oh P.S. that reminds me of a story. I had a gay moment for Acro this past weekend... I was in Midland Friday night for the Saginaw Valley vs. Grand Valley football game and we got there around 6pm, and the first thing I thought of when I got there was "I wonder what Acro and his crew are doing tonight?" Then I instantly thought to myself "WTF am I thinking about Acro for? Man I'm gay" ... What can I say Smash is life!

 

[Hot_ArmS]

lawl no homo

 

[Vayseth]

Yeah, WTON was AWESOME. I had a good time. When deciding on whether or not to enter Singles, I decided to instead MM people in Naruto and buy taco bell with Dark Kakashi, and it was definitely the right decision. GOOOOOO OOK!

 

[Dark Kakashi]

Vayseth, I'll go to Ann Arbor if you have a Naruto side tourney in future Brawl events. <3
I'll bring my bro and other top players to show off how to play the other characters in that game, cause I could not play Temari or Neji at all. lol

 

[Hot_ArmS]

Anther has two birthdays? o_0

 

[Legan]

Michigan you guys are awesome, it was great seeing you all and Ill be sure to make it out to the monthlies as soon as I get back into Kalamazoo.

If anyone would like to see how my link played out at the tournament, here ya go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsQSkALXSxQ 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAIlB1MHwTs 3

 

[Vayseth]

Man! legan has that crazy spin walking stuff down pat! It's super fun to watch.

And DK you know I'm going to do that <3

 

[thaxceptional1]

legan yo link is crazy good but link still sux

 

[Vayseth]

Legan's Link has made me want to play T.Link again. Not Link again because, well, Link sux =(

 

[Dark Kakashi]

Vayseth, just tell me the next time you will hold one and I'll try to plan accordingly so I can get my Bro and possibly Dignity to go with me to the event and play some Naruto. ^_^

 

[Zelow]

Sounds like you want to get owned by Kirby :|

kirby? ill ditto you in melee lol but im afraid brawl sucks and i dont play it unless im drunk you playing with my girlfriend because its to easy and i just dont really like it lol

 

[alcoady]

whats up w/ everyone in west mi having an awesome kirby in melee?

must be all the skillllzzzzzzzz
so much skill in west MI air that it's palpable.
Mmm Mmm good....*****

 

[Shaeden]

anyone wanna MM my marth in melee? i'm new to the melee scene and i heard it's a good way to learn stuffs.
on a side note, brawl is the best game ever and i really enjoy playing it.

 

[lain]

I just died laughing.

 

[Flandy121]

Man... why does everyone hate brawl?

 

[Shade_666]

Man... why does everyone hate brawl?

Honestly it's just not a good competitive game, people try to play it like the other smashes and it doesn't work so they just end up hating it.

I personally don't care, I like both of the games

 

[SamuraiPanda]

Melee deeper? I guess if deeper means faster and flashier. All I did was spam smashes and did pretty well. In some ways I feel faster and more in control in brawl just cause doing things is much easier and I can think of things to do and actually do them instead of being limited by my poor technical skill. I guess that's one reason I like brawl more, cause I sucked too much with techs to do cool looking stuff.

I don't understand why people keep saying things like "Brawl isn't a good competitve game." No worries, though. People have finally come around to Brawl. Tons of players like M2K, Azen, and even Anther all like Brawl more than Melee now. Only a few vocal people keep hating on Brawl, the rest of us enjoy it quite a bit.

 

[Zankoku]

The best part of that quote is that its source links to a thread in the SBR so non-SBR people can't actually refer to the thread.

I enjoy Brawl, but it still annoys me. And I'd have a discussion with you about that except you're never on AIM.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

I quite literally haven't logged on in months. AIM bugs me.

 

[Needle of Juntah]

good job ****** that gamerzlivelounge thread LOL

we even got 'Nevershootme' (Eddie) up in there

Actually Eddie is a very cool asian guy reminds me of Ankoku but like a COOL Ankoku. he drove me around when i first got there and helped me with moeny when i was low like you guys know i am alot of the times im prolly 30 bux in debt to him

 

[Needle of Juntah]

Man... why does everyone hate brawl?

because people havent figured everything out yet and put it on youtube so all the nooblars can copy it and try to come **** tournaments. give it like 1 more year and maybe closer to 2 years and people will either start LOVING brawl or the scene will diminish into thin air

 

[Acro]

there are not many things I hate more than jews... Brawl is one of them

 

[thaxceptional1]

i hate white people.

 

[Shade_666]

The reason I say it isn't a competative game is because there is a blatant ceiling which no one can break through, brawl is based solely on character match-ups, if your char sucks there is nothing you can do to make them better, in melee you could work on l-canceling every effing move you do until you start bleeding from the eyes, and in turn will make your character faster, thus better.

 

[Vayseth]

While that's true to some extent, you have to realize that there is definitely a ceiling people haven't even tried to break through. Until you see Legan's Link (which is the first thing I've seen come close to a melee-style version of Link) I don't think anyone really understands how much potential this game has.

 

[Needle of Juntah]

The reason I say it isn't a competative game is because there is a blatant ceiling which no one can break through, brawl is based solely on character match-ups, if your char sucks there is nothing you can do to make them better, in melee you could work on l-canceling every effing move you do until you start bleeding from the eyes, and in turn will make your character faster, thus better.

go play G&W in melee, play till your eyes bleed and you have a brain anurism, you not gona do **** with him. i dont care how hard you try

 

[Hot_ArmS]

hey panda can you link me or quote where it says m2k likes brawl better

i wanna show it to someone

 

[SamuraiPanda]

Can't link you to it, really. Its from the back room. Took me a minute, but here it is:

i like brawl more than melee now, cuz it's the one ive been playing more

 

[HiddenBowser]

Oh really??? because today he just posted that he likes melee more.

i played melee today and realized that brawl sucks

 

[Rat]

brawl tournaments are pretty ok. But w/out that added pressure brawl friendlies get boring real fast. =/

that being said, you'all better come to the next GR tournament. I think it's Nov. 8.

 

[Vayseth]

Wow, everyone should quit this melee BS right now. Just because a game isn't as good does not mean everyone can bash it. It's not like the game is unplayable... Trust me, until your series goes from AWESOME to absolutely unplayable, you have no right to complain.

GNT 4 -> GNT EX. Adjusting the engine to the wii proved unsuccessful, which lead to no block stun on any moves (meaning you could punch anyone out of anything), counter hits immediately grounding opponents as opposed to being able to combo, on the ground infinites, character-specific infinites, wake up unblockables, and a down grade of the cast from over 30 to 14. It was bad.

 

[Zankoku]

I didn't say anything about Melee. I just said Brawl, when not played for fun, gets annoying.

 

[SCOTU]

I like Melee.

 

[Shaeden]

i don't know why people care so much about opinions. i could give a **** less if you like brawl or melee more, CS > both bad games. not to mention, i hate melee.. the game is so.. bad.. and i suck at it.. so that's why i hate it. but i also suck massive donkey nuts at brawl. so i hate that game as well. anyone who loses to me in either game needs to /wrists.

also you should all play FPS games, they take no skill whatsoever, just point.. and click, everyone feels like they're amazing.

 

[Flandy121]

Whoa what did I start? Well I'm glad people do like brawl. Brawl is my preference. My room mate left the wii at home so we only have melee at our appartment as of now. I hate melee because the buttons don't work for ****. Although I had never seen Anther's Melee Pika and yes it is pants wetting amazing. So I picked up Pika in Melee. He is one of the few characters that seems similar in both games. Please note I did not say "the same" There is obviously a big difference. I just feel that Pika has the most concepts that carry over. So all in all this discussion has made me happy, I had lost faith in Brawl for a quick second. Now if only some people wanted to play around GR... Rat?

 

[Rat]

On Thursdays, come to grandlan flandy. I'll give you a call next thursdays.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

Oh really??? because today he just posted that he likes melee more.

Why does that quote link to some random post in the sig shop from more than a year ago?

Btw, you suck at making up M2K quotes :D

 

[Anther]

I was wondering how I had a random firefox window in the sig shop XD.

 

[Anther]

And there isn't a blatant ceiling that's silly. 5 Months ago it looked like there was a blatant ceiling and somehow people are still getting better at the game. Obviously the ceiling hasn't been hit, and the mix-up/reading game always goes a bit further than what can be technically done anyway.

I have fun in brawl friendlies and tourney matches, and I remember the same thing in melee with mah best friend fo life biggy always sounding a bit annoyed with tournament matches while others played like every game had $5 on the line XD.

if your char sucks there is nothing you can do to make them better, in melee you could work on l-canceling every effing move you do until you start bleeding from the eyes, and in turn will make your character faster, thus better.

I'm pretty sure that the characters that sucked, sucked with the thought of L-cancelling in mind XD, and once you could l-cancel reliably, there was no l-cancelling harder to the point that the char got more viable. Plus the fact that most chars had supposed "Tier based" restrictions in everyones eyes anyway.
If you can't find any other possible chases or openings to create it's the player's fault and not the characters. A lot of borderline good characters get a lot better as people just play around with them.
A lot of players get comfortable and stagnate in learning new things, which is really what holds a lot of the win-able characters in the game back imo.