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The Bandicoot Returns (and It's About Time!) Crash's Nitro-Fueled Smash Thread

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You said Deluxe Mii Costume. Those are Sans, Cuphead, Vault Boy, and Bomberman.
Deluxe Mii Costumes are fully modeled and proportioned to look almost like full fledged Fighters. Spyro cannot fill that role.
Though if Crash is in Fighter's Pass Volume 2, I fully support Spyro for the next batch of newcomers.
Another western character who could be a deluxe mii costume is Master Chief (Halo). I think Spyro could be a semi-deluxe mii costume.

Seconding this. If Spyro got a Mii Costume, it would likely just be a hat. That being said, if we got Crash this season, you know I will be loud and proud about Spyro for next season. But Crash is the main priority here. He has the stronger legacy.
Not to mention Spyro's fame went down during the late 2010s.
 
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Not to mention Spyro's fame went down during the late 2010s.
Don't you mean that's when Spyro was brought back?

Spyro's Reignited Trilogy was released in 2018 and on related note Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy in 2017.

Both were dead franchises around early 2010 with Spyro only being a character in Skylanders until that died and both were revived almost a decade later.
 
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Another western character who could be a deluxe mii costume is Master Chief (Halo). I think Spyro could be a semi-deluxe mii costume.


Not to mention Spyro's fame went down during the late 2010s.
You mean like a Spyro mask that covers the whole head?
Eh. Not the worst idea, but I think a hat would be more fitting.
 

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Seconding this. If Spyro got a Mii Costume, it would likely just be a hat. That being said, if we got Crash this season, you know I will be loud and proud about Spyro for next season. But Crash is the main priority here. He has the stronger legacy.
Just gotta wait and see if we'll get a next season, I imagine we won't know until we get to the presentation for the penultimate character or so.
 

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Don't you mean that's when Spyro was brought back?

Spyro's Reignited Trilogy was released in 2018 and on related note Crash Bandicoot N.Sane Trilogy in 2017.

Both were dead franchises around early 2010 with Spyro only being a character in Skylanders until that died and both were revived almost a decade later.
I meant that Spyro was more famous during the early 2010s.

You mean like a Spyro mask that covers the whole head?
Eh. Not the worst idea, but I think a hat would be more fitting.
When I say semi-deluxe mii costume, Spyro's mii costume would be similar to the Creeper and Pig mii costumes.

Speaking of mii costumes, I noticed that every DLC western rep is released alongside at least 1 Konami mii costume. Banjo had Goemon, and Steve (Minecraft) had Bomberman. Thus, I think it would be interesting if we got a Duelist (Yugioh) mii costume with Crash Bandicoot, since Yugioh is also a Konami franchise. The Duelist mii costume would just be a non-character-specific outfit without headgear.
 

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Speaking of mii costumes, I noticed that every DLC western rep is released alongside at least 1 Konami mii costume. Banjo had Goemon, and Steve (Minecraft) had Bomberman. Thus, I think it would be interesting if we got a Duelist (Yugioh) mii costume with Crash Bandicoot, since Yugioh is also a Konami franchise. The Duelist mii costume would just be a non-character-specific outfit without headgear.
Q*bert, since it was published by Konami in Japan :4pacman:
It'd probably be a Bill Rizer costume for Gunner.
 

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I don't know if this has ever been shared but here goes nothing


According to this video, Crash ranked in a poll Sakurai made all the way back before Melee for potential additions to Melee so that at least indicates that he is aware the character exists and some module of fan request for Crash existed in japan back in the day.

Interesting information that i never knew existed
You would be surprised to find out who ranked number 1 among the 3rd party characters in that Melee poll:
Chocobo
 

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Q*bert, since it was published by Konami in Japan :4pacman:
It'd probably be a Bill Rizer costume for Gunner.
That's what I had in mind, Pyramid Head (Silent Hill), which is a generic enemy, could be a deluxe mii costume. I would rather see Bill (Contra) as playable. To get back on topic, Crash Bandicoot being released alongside the aforementioned duelist (Yugioh) costume would still make sense to fit the pattern. And also, I think Yugioh can get content in Smash without getting any actual Yugioh characters included in Smash in any form.
 
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Another western character who could be a deluxe mii costume is Master Chief (Halo). I think Spyro could be a semi-deluxe mii costume.


Not to mention Spyro's fame went down during the late 2010s.
There is no way Microsoft will just hand over Chief like that. Just because they have been friendly with Nintendo doesn't mean they will go that low. Otherwise, no one is safe from Mii including Crash.
 

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There is no way Microsoft will just hand over Chief like that. Just because they have been friendly with Nintendo doesn't mean they will go that low. Otherwise, no one is safe from Mii including Crash.
I'm aware of those relationships/interactions
 

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So after Crash and Chief, who would be the next most iconic gaming character missing from the roster? While some people would say Rayman or Spyro, those characters and their games didn't do so well in Japan. But I think they both deserve to be in.
 

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So after Crash and Chief, who would be the next most iconic gaming character missing from the roster? While some people would say Rayman or Spyro, those characters and their games didn't do so well in Japan. But I think they both deserve to be in.
Sora is an icon in his own right (albeit a smaller one compared to some of gaming's juggernauts).
 

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Honestly, that leak with Rayman, Ryu Hayabusa and Rayman has been my worst fear, it does seem believable for predicting the 3 already revealed characters in the pass. Either it is true or the dude was somehow extremely lucky with his guesses with the first 3 characters. It is why I am not really optimistic about Crash's chances anymore.

Regarding that Activision 5 year plan leak, while it is almost definitely true, no one truly knows what exactly is included in that plan. People for some reason are now assuming Crash in smash in 2021 is included in it but I haven't seen absolutely anything that makes it anything more than a wild guess.
 
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For what it's worth, Acti have been probably been playing the long game. At one point, Skylanders was going to be a Nintendo exclusive, but they were turned down by Nintendo when the latter were secretly planning the creation of amiibo.
In regards to the text leak...it feels like a repeat of the 5Chan incident to me, honestly. That particular leak only got :ulthero: and one of his skins right (in the opposite order than what others expected). At best, I only see one or two of those three characters get in the pass.
 
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I just thought I'd make a proper 'feel free to sign me up on the supporters list' message. Admittedly, I'm not the biggest fan of Crash out there - I played Crash Tag Team Racing back on the GameCube when I was younger and one of the Titans games, so I can't really say have a great connection to Crash in my childhood. (Grew up with Final Fantasy VII as one of my few PlayStation games)

I tried giving Crash N. Sanity a shot on PS4 back when it first launched, but for some reason it didn't click with me, or I was too busy to keep playing it, so I greatly lost interest in Crash for a while. And I'll admit that at one point, Crash was one of my least-wanted characters alongside Steve, but after being proven wrong on Steve once I made a change of heart on Minecraft, I ultimately decided "You know, there's more important things to worry about than hating Crash Bandicoot or him potentially joining Smash.". In a similar vein, I love the art style and designs of Crash 4, and I hope if Crash joins the fight he gets a lot of influence from that game in particular. Maybe since the N. Sanity Trilogy is on sale on Steam (maybe might pick up the bundle that comes with Spyro Reignited too, never had a strong connection to him either), I might pick that up and try to give the games a second chance and see where that goes.

I'm not a diehard supporter of Crash joining Smash, but I think I've made enough of a change of heart to actually hope he joins the fight at some stage in the future, so feel free to add me to the list, and I'm silently cheering for the long-time supporters too.
 
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I just thought I'd make a proper 'feel free to sign me up on the supporters list' message. Admittedly, I'm not the biggest fan of Crash out there - I played Crash Tag Team Racing back on the GameCube when I was younger and one of the Titans games, so I can't really say have a great connection to Crash in my childhood. (Grew up with Final Fantasy VII as one of my few PlayStation games)

I tried giving Crash N. Sanity a shot on PS4 back when it first launched, but for some reason it didn't click with me, or I was too busy to keep playing it, so I greatly lost interest in Crash for a while. And I'll admit that at one point, Crash was one of my least-wanted characters alongside Steve, but after being proven wrong on Steve once I made a change of heart on Minecraft, I ultimately decided "You know, there's more important things to worry about than hating Crash Bandicoot or him potentially joining Smash.". In a similar vein, I love the art style and designs of Crash 4, and I hope if Crash joins the fight he gets a lot of influence from that game in particular. Maybe since the N. Sanity Trilogy is on sale on Steam (maybe might pick up the bundle that comes with Spyro Reignited too, never had a strong connection to him either), I might pick that up and try to give the games a second chance and see where that goes.

I'm not a diehard supporter of Crash joining Smash, but I think I've made enough of a change of heart to actually hope he joins the fight at some stage in the future, so feel free to add me to the list, and I'm silently cheering for the long-time supporters too.
Welcome and thank you! I seriously wish more people like you existed in this community, where instead of blindly hating a character you don't know about, you actually give these characters a chance and try out their games. Much respect!
 
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Okay. After Crash and Chief, I think Lara Croft would be the next most iconic character missing from the roster. She did get a few Guinness World record titles including one for being the most renowned female gaming character:

What's funny is that series with more sales like COD or GTA don't have characters anywhere nearly as iconic.
 

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So after Crash and Chief, who would be the next most iconic gaming character missing from the roster? While some people would say Rayman or Spyro, those characters and their games didn't do so well in Japan. But I think they both deserve to be in.
Yea, it depends on how "iconic" we're talking here. There are tons of worthy characters to still be added, but in terms of megahits we still need Lara Croft (as you said), Jill Valentine, Scorpion/Sub-Zero (although that will probably not happen), and probably Heihachi.

If we're to include Playstation then you would definately need Kratos and Nathan Drake as well.
 

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Honestly, that leak with Rayman, Ryu Hayabusa and Rayman has been my worst fear, it does seem believable for predicting the 3 already revealed characters in the pass. Either it is true or the dude was somehow extremely lucky with his guesses with the first 3 characters. It is why I am not really optimistic about Crash's chances anymore.

Regarding that Activision 5 year plan leak, while it is almost definitely true, no one truly knows what exactly is included in that plan. People for some reason are now assuming Crash in smash in 2021 is included in it but I haven't seen absolutely anything that makes it anything more than a wild guess.
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. That post was not a leak:it was a wishlist. The thread it was in was a wishlist thread and there were dozens of posts like it. For all we know it’s just one person who is very happy so far. Doesn’t help it’s case that doomguy has been kinda deconfirmed due to nda stuff.


So after Crash and Chief, who would be the next most iconic gaming character missing from the roster? While some people would say Rayman or Spyro, those characters and their games didn't do so well in Japan. But I think they both deserve to be in.
Lara Croft in the West is a clear front runner here. While her games don’t do as well in Japan, Tomb Raider is a huge influential franchise and if you asked someone to name a female video game character, she would be one of the first they mention. After her, I would say Dovakhin. Skyrim is huge and most people know the Dragonborn. I know a lot of people are big on Scorpion, but MK is a non factor in Japan.
 

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Sora, Crash and Chief are the big three imo, after that it’s a bit more dicey. Balls probably in capcoms court at that point via Dante.

I wish Spyro was up there but thanks to Japan I feel like he’s got no groundswell.
 
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I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. That post was not a leak:it was a wishlist. The thread it was in was a wishlist thread and there were dozens of posts like it. For all we know it’s just one person who is very happy so far. Doesn’t help it’s case that doomguy has been kinda deconfirmed due to nda stuff.
May I ask how you know it's a wishlist? The thread I saw gave no clear indication if it was a list of predictions or wishes.

 

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May I ask how you know it's a wishlist? The thread I saw gave no clear indication if it was a list of predictions or wishes.

Because look at everyone else’s posts in the thread. It is clear that this is just anons spitballing at who it might be, with a few dashes of personal bias and wants. Besides, as I will say again, the fact Doomguy has been soft deconfirmed due to NDA stuff makes this a non starter in my eyes.
 

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Because look at everyone else’s posts in the thread. It is clear that this is just anons spitballing at who it might be, with a few dashes of personal bias and wants. Besides, as I will say again, the fact Doomguy has been soft deconfirmed due to NDA stuff makes this a non starter in my eyes.
I just want to say that I'm definately being cautious on this one, but I also think it's worth talking about at the same time. If it IS a prediction list then consider myself shocked. It's difficult to just brush that off.

As for your point about Doomguy, I agree that it's probably the most suspicious thing about this "leak". However, you'll also note that this person said Ninjara, which turned out to be a Mii, so it's possible, IF this is a leak, that the person heard names but didn't know how they would be implemented. I don't think a Doom Mii is out of the question at this point.
 

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But you can't forget about Chun-Li or Phoenix. Especially Chun-Li since she's the most iconic female fighting game character. Her absence in the roster is as big as Tails and Eggman's.
Not many people want Chun Li I imagine. I could give you tails tho, I think shadow or knuckles is what people really want but he’s out of the running.
 
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Well, some people would. There's no character that can please everyone. But, the majority would probably be satisfied with those, yes.
 

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I wouldn't hate them, But I would be underwhelmed if we got secondary characters from existing franchises in Smash, Which is why I personally really found Sephiroth's inclusion to be incredibly underwhelming.

I want Super Smash Bros Ultimate to push and expand the crossover which is why Crash Bandicoot and to lesser extent Master Chief are currently my most wanted 3rd party newcomers and it's more fresh and exciting when a new iconic franchise enters the fray.
 
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I wouldn't hate them, But I would be underwhelmed if we got secondary characters from existing franchises in Smash, Which is why I personally really found Sephiroth's inclusion to be incredibly underwhelming.

I want Super Smash Bros Ultimate to push and expand the crossover which is why Crash Bandicoot and to lesser extent Master Chief are currently my most wanted 3rd party newcomers and it's more fresh and exciting when a new iconic franchise enters the fray.
And then there's me, who wants Billy Hatcher in Smash...
 

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I wouldn't hate them, But I would be underwhelmed if we got secondary characters from existing franchises in Smash, Which is why I personally really found Sephiroth's inclusion to be incredibly underwhelming.

I want Super Smash Bros Ultimate to push and expand the crossover which is why Crash Bandicoot and to lesser extent Master Chief are currently my most wanted 3rd party newcomers and it's more fresh and exciting when a new iconic franchise enters the fray.
Sephiroth was most likely added to fill in the massive content gaps Final Fantasy had compared to all the other franchises, Dragon Quest included.
 

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Sephiroth was most likely added to fill in the massive content gaps Final Fantasy had compared to all the other franchises, Dragon Quest included.
Personally I don't care at all about anything Final Fantasy, But if that was the case I would rather had them include more content with Cloud's inclusion in exchange for taking back the latest DLC roster spot.
 
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I think Crash is either going to be FP10 or FP11 as I think he will be one of the E3 reveals if we are getting E3 next year.
I think regardless of whether E3 happens, the pass was planned with two E3s in mind. Steve was probably planned as a big reveal for 2020's, and chances are good there's another big reveal meant for 2021's. Crash would be a top contender there
 
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