The Bakery - Realised I can still edit the thread title!

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Brawl- is definitely legit, too bad my Wii is upgraded too far to still be hacked =(

 

[I Dair You]

^ even 4.3 Wiis can still be hacked.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

European .

 

[I Dair You]

that sucks bro

 

[teluoborg]

4.3e can still be hacked lol.
Google hackmii 4.3e letterbomb.

Brawl- is really funny but triforce tier is really overoverpowered.

 

[Blubolouis]

Brawl- Link 2 gud



dat upb

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Double Dash is legit, run at all future smash tournaments.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

4.3e can still be hacked lol.
Google hackmii 4.3e letterbomb.

Brawl- is really funny but triforce tier is really overoverpowered.

Man, it's all about the Luigi, Bowser, ROB triangle.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I totally know how I will be spending my free time for the next couple of weeks.

 

[I Dair You]

I really wish someone would have fixed that Falco hitbubble PAC file
Believe me, I would do it myself but I wouldnt have an idea what im doing.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

This is something different. Toomai had started a project about showing hitspheres in an interesting way and seems to have released the ability for others to do the same with a modified version of brawlbox.

Still in the early stages of being user friendly it seems, but its gives rather nice information about Falco's moves. Like since each move is actually made up of many hitspheres it tells the property of each one.

Like for example, Dtilt and Dair each have 40% chance of tripping (couldn't find the proper hitsphere for the reflector to see for sure). Or Falco's Uair actually has a transcendent priority hitsphere at his waist area. I still do not understand the knockback notation that is used, but I'm pretty sure that this same hitsphere is the one that causes the dinky knockback. And since it is at his waist, I wonder if you could use SH Uair as a cross over on taller characters like DDD, Marth, and Snake to abuse that particular part of the move.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Falco boards need a frame data thread, but I do not have the free time to do the research.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=308016
^I already compiled that over the summer. Got a bit lazy at finishing up the end of it, but it includes most of the relevant stuff.

Although, it is only the most basic of the frame data available. It doesn't really show how Falco's Fsmash has two different hitbubbles that come out at different times or other stuff.

Unless someone gets to it first, which I hope they do not from the SmashLab, I'll try making that nifty hitbubble threads that Toomai was doing, but for Falco.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

I basically want to know what can beat what from a theorycraft point of view so that I can see if it is feasible to do in matches. Learning frame data has helped me figure out what does and doesn't work for other characters and it's something I want here.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Oh, yea. Lots of ambiguity about how moves work and stuff goes away when you look at the properties each move has. I recall times when people wondered if Ftilt or Dtilt has more range. When I compared these two earlier, they pretty much have the same radius (therefore length) of hitbubbles. But since falco leans into his Ftilt, it actually reaches further from a neutral position than Dtilt does.

 

[I Dair You]

ill be looking forward to your findings, Xeylode.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

http://s1102.photobucket.com/albums/g448/xeylode/
^Here's some of Falco's various moves I could match-up with the hurtboxes.

Anything with a dotted line indicates a move with transcendent priority. A move with the star shape in the center indicates a move with 361 degree knockback angle. Any other knockback angle is indicated by the line form the center of the circle.

 

[ryulord_678]

What's the deal with falco and bread? Is it some kind of inside joke?

-rl

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Taunt says, "Hands off my Prey". Alter prey with bread, "Hands off my Bread", and you have instant meme for years to come.

Also, Shine has a 40% trip rate. Maybe that was confirmed a long time ago, but lol

 

[M@v]

Best character board meme was steak, but sonic boards died a long time ago.

 

[ryulord_678]

Taunt says, "Hands off my Prey". Alter prey with bread, "Hands off my Bread", and you have instant meme for years to come.

Also, Shine has a 40% trip rate. Maybe that was confirmed a long time ago, but lol

Haha, I get it. I guess that's funny.

And is the trip rate like a weighted RNG? That sounds awful if yes.

-rl

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Best character board meme was steak, but sonic boards died a long time ago.

I never understood where the steak came from.

And is the trip rate like a weighted RNG? That sounds awful if yes.

I'm not sure the specific mechanic used for tripping in brawl. Moves like Dtilt and Dair can trip, but you only ever see it trip at low percents. Shine on the other hand can trip into about 100% on most characters. It depends upon knockback and percentage when it can trip or not. So, if it does run on a certain RNG, then it works only within a certain range of percentages.

Empirically, 4 times out of 10 you should see a trip from those moves when they are in the tripping range of a character. 40% is high, but not high enough to rely on sadly.

 

[M@v]

I never understood where the steak came from.

Back in '08, some guy on the sonic boards accidentally said he was on a winning steak instead of a winning streak. It all took off from there.

 

[ryulord_678]

Empirically, 4 times out of 10 you should see a trip from those moves when they are in the tripping range of a character. 40% is high, but not high enough to rely on sadly.

What japanese guy was sitting at his desk, working through falco frame data, when he decided that shine would cause 40% tripping...

-rl

 

[da K.I.D.]

The very tip of the shine hitbox is a 100% trip rate I believe... at least thats what I heard here a while back and seems to be consistent when i tried it.

 

[MARLX]

I tried it just 1 hour ago, it seems to have a 95% tripping rate at the tip of the shine.

 

[M@v]

how broke would it be if we could laser lock them out of the trip of a shine

 

[ryulord_678]

Then the urc would have even more work to do..
Trolololol

-rl

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Yeah, making GIFs sucks.

Spoiler

Is anyone here very artsy? I've always liked art, but anytime it came to come up with something, I never knew where to start. When I did have an idea, my end result deviated quite a lot from the original idea because it never looked right unless I made the modifications.

 

[Gamegenie222]

http://s1102.photobucket.com/albums/g448/xeylode/
^Here's some of Falco's various moves I could match-up with the hurtboxes.

Anything with a dotted line indicates a move with transcendent priority. A move with the star shape in the center indicates a move with 361 degree knockback angle. Any other knockback angle is indicated by the line form the center of the circle.

Thank you for doing this I been waiting for someone to do this for a very long time.

 

[-DR3W-]

All the Florida Falcos takin a pic on Saturday.

HYPE

Drew, Tommy G, Xaltis, DJ Jack, Viper
<3

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

I'll be trollin' in the background.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Someone hold a hat out in midair and pretend it's me. I wanted to be there this weekend, but no one else from my area was going and I've got to travel the next two weekends anyway.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'm always the hat in monopoly.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

My Soda Can Chair is gaining height!

 

[-DR3W-]

Mink...do it, you won't.

Ryker...if I remember I will. <3

Xeylode...that's fuxking epic.

 

[[FBC] Papa Mink]

dude.

I will.


I'll be in the background makin' my mink face.

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There's too much swag in this post.

It's how i get all the *****es.

 

[BleachigoZX]

I wish NJ had Falco's as chill at the FL ones.

Taking pictures and stuff.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Man, this avatar **** is so much fun.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

You have discovered you now have access to a 125x125 image?