The 2006-2008 Tier list

[Kyu Puff]

DK's recovery isn't even bad. He's the second heaviest character in the game; you'll live forever with good DI. Unlike Doc, aggressive edgeguarding doesn't destroy his recovery. The two recoveries aren't comparable.

Both characters have good grab games, but DK's is simply better, due to certain tools -- a faster ground speed, a longer grab range, a longer dash-dance -- and more devastating combos on ALL fastfallers and semi-fastfallers.

Doc, however, wins in the versatility department. Doc is relatively flexible; he isn't really limited to a specific set of moves. Donkey Kong's arsenal, in any given situation, is limited to very few; b-air, grab + u-air, and up+B often encompass 80%+ of his game.

 

[KirbyKaze]

If that's the case, Kyu Puff, which do you value more? Doc's more flexible, sure, but DK is better at what he does and comes equipped with better tools (although in exchange he has fewer usable moves than Doc).

Personally I think if Jigglypuff has taught us anything it's quite possible to make a character with only 5-7 moves if those moves interact very positively with one another.

 

[NES n00b]

If that's the case, Kyu Puff, which do you value more? Doc's more flexible, sure, but DK is better at what he does and comes equipped with better tools (although in exchange he has fewer usable moves than Doc).

Personally I think if Jigglypuff has taught us anything it's quite possible to make a character with only 5-7 moves if those moves interact very positively with one another.

I think Falcon is a better example. His usable moveset list is pretty **** limited, but it works.

 

[Grunt]

Doc's more flexible, sure, but DK is better at what he does and comes equipped with better tools (although in exchange he has fewer usable moves than Doc).

It's like...
would you rather have an assortment of 100 different firearms,
Or a nuclear missile?

I'd take the nuke.

 

[Fletch]

I think Falcon is a better example. His usable moveset list is pretty **** limited, but it works.

This is sarcasm, right?

 

[Hax]

fox
marth
sheik
falco

top 4

 

[Dark Hart]

Top
Sheik
Fox
Marth

High
Falco
Peach
Falcon
Jiggs

nuff said

 

[Xiivi]

There is only 1 placement that I haven't seen disagreed with. And that is Falco being #4. Kind of funny that's the only thing everyone seems to agree upon. If anything it's more justification for Falco being alone in an "Upper Tier" between Top and High. He's obviously a step below Fox/Sheik/Marth and a step above Peach/Falcon/ICs/Jiggs.

 

[everlasting yayuhzz]

This is sarcasm, right?

No...actually, Falcon does only have a few moves to use. His usable moveset compared to...

Marth, who has about 1 unusable move, or Sheik who can pretty much use everything...yeah. Don't forget Fox McCloud, he who doesn't have a single bad move. ;D

 

[Kyu Puff]

Don't forget Fox McCloud, he who doesn't have a single bad move. ;D

That's a f-air claim.

 

[metaXzero]

AAGH! Why does this page STILL have the extra 2 pagees glitch.

 

[Pink Reaper]

That's a f-air claim.

****, you beat me to it

 

[Fletch]

No...actually, Falcon does only have a few moves to use. His usable moveset compared to...

Marth, who has about 1 unusable move, or Sheik who can pretty much use everything...yeah. Don't forget Fox McCloud, he who doesn't have a single bad move. ;D

All of Falcon's aerials are very useful, he has a use for all of his smashes, the only non-usable move that he really has is Falcon Kick, which I admit sucks... but at least it can be used for recovery. And as previously mentioned, Fox's fair is awful. As a Fox main, I'd rather have his fair never come out, as it kills me by mistake more than it could ever actually help.

 

[Winston]

Lmao cause falcon punch is really useful right?

His smashes are marginally useful, his tilts are kinda useful.

I wouldn't say his moveset is limited but he definitely has fewer useful moves than marth fox sheik.

 

[Fletch]

Lmao cause falcon punch is really useful right?

His smashes are marginally useful, his tilts are kinda useful.

I wouldn't say his moveset is limited but he definitely has fewer useful moves than marth fox sheik.

Tapion Punch/G-Reg Punch.

 

[everlasting yayuhzz]

That's a f-air claim.

Fair isn't completely unusable. You can lead fair into grabs and upsmashes, I've done it on multiple occasions. Lame pun, though.

 

[PB&J]

yay is right after watching keepspeedn and shiz's fox fair is not as bad..which = fox has no bad moves


falco is def top 2

 

[metaXzero]

Fair isn't completely unusable. You can lead fair into grabs and upsmashes, I've done it on multiple occasions. Lame pun, though.

n00by question. Can't you do that with n-air and d-air and (to a much less extent) b-air better?

 

[KirbyKaze]

falco is def top 2

elaborate please?

it seems most people think he has the least tournament winning ability out of the top 4. what convinces you otherwise?

 

[Dark Hart]

n00by question. Can't you do that with n-air and d-air and (to a much less extent) b-air better?

Yes, but it's also possible to do it with a f-air. Plus, it's a little mind-game since nobody would ever expect it.

 

[Vyse]

AAGH! Why does this page STILL have the extra 2 pagees glitch.

It's because Brawl's made us all too slow to keep up with stimulating Melee discussion.

Somewhere on the next page Mew2king, DaShizWiz and Mango are discussing the new tier list.