The 2006-2008 Tier list

[Protoguy]

Maybe I haven't played enough fighting games, but its hard for me to get how Melee could be more balanced than just about anything...

Compare top tier to bottom, and there is such a disconnect...

I guess there is a fairly smooth transition from best to worst when taking all characters into account, but balance =/= smooth transition...

 

[BigRick]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Ironically, smash is way more balanced than most fighters that WERE designed for 1v1. In this game, Most low tiers are still usable in specific counterpicks and stages.

You are delusional

 

[Yoshi'stheBombers7]

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Ironically, smash is way more balanced than most fighters that WERE designed for 1v1. In this game, Most low tiers are still usable in specific counterpicks and stages.

Wrong Wrong Wrong. They specifically designed it for several people to play at one time.
I wish I had the link to it, but just take my word for it.

 

[Vincent Vega]

Wow what could people still be talking about in this thread? Seems like just more competitive vs casual. STFU about it ffs. Play the game the way you want.

 

[Binx]

In street fighter I hear there are only 3 usable characters in tournament, Ken, Yun, Chun Li. Also at least to me the gameplay doesn't seem as deep because its slower, the same aspects apply such as mindgames and spacing, and a pro SFer would ruin me, but at the same time the game lacks double jumps up-b's evolving combos and so forth.

 

[handsockpuppet]

yah at least SSBM has all usable characters, even if some are better then others. In the marvel games, storm is sooooo broken. the problem about SSBM is the advanced techniques may create an advantage, except all characters can do it, so it evens out.

 

[Zankoku]

the problem about SSBM is the advanced techniques may create an advantage, except all characters can do it, so it evens out.

I don't think you've realized what you tend to say yet.

 

[handsockpuppet]

well it's better then many games that have techniques shown in only one character. Unlike some games, Nintendo at least tries to even things out in SSBM.

 

[Protoguy]

I was going to write "Handsockpuppet phails!", but Phail slapped me and said that it didn't want to be grouped with an ungodly thing like him...

 

[TheManaLord]

Wrong Wrong Wrong. They specifically designed it for several people to play at one time.
I wish I had the link to it, but just take my word for it.

The game wasn't meant for 1v1s or to be played with all of the advanced techs. That's why it seems un-even.

Noobs, idiots.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Noobs, idiots.

Cue Eff Tee

 

[handsockpuppet]

I was going to write "Handsockpuppet phails!", but Phail slapped me and said that it didn't want to be grouped with an ungodly thing like him...

could you please tell me why I fail?

 

[Endless Nightmares]

lol yeah, there have been some idiots in this thread lately but I actually understand what handsockpuppet is saying in his posts and I don't see any statement that "fails" >.>

 

[Zankoku]

The failure is in the content, really. I can't figure out why anyone would say things like "Well, there's the problem that advanced techniques make some people better than others, but everyone can learn advanced techniques, so it evens out." It "evens out" a "problem" that never existed, apparently. Some people can be better by learning ATs, but other people can also be better by learning ATs? NO WAI.

 

[Xela]

I don't know about the Tier list but maybe it's because i've been using bottom tiers, Ness, Mewtwo, G&W because can't really find someone in my university that can beat me. But its all good.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

I won a tournament at my University going mostly G&W.

Bottom Tier =/= losers.

But yeah if there's nobody really challenging you, try to find other local smashers...there are some extremely good people in Washington. Check out the regional boards

 

[BigRick]

In street fighter I hear there are only 3 usable characters in tournament, Ken, Yun, Chun Li. Also at least to me the gameplay doesn't seem as deep because its slower, the same aspects apply such as mindgames and spacing, and a pro SFer would ruin me, but at the same time the game lacks double jumps up-b's evolving combos and so forth.

In Smash Bros. I hear there are only 3 usable characters in tournament, Fox, Marth, Sheik. Also at least to me the gameplay doesn't seem as deep because it only uses 2 buttons, the same aspects apply such as mindgames and spacing, and a pro Smasher would ruin me, but at the same time the game lacks high/lows parries and so forth.

 

[-Darc-]

LOL BigRick. You're one of my favorite posters on this board.

 

[BigRick]

<3 Darc

actually its much more like Ken = Sheik, Yun = Fox, Chun Li = Marth

but that wasn't really the point of that post

 

[wWw Dazwa]

Let's not forget Dudley and Makoto are both used fairly often in tournaments as well.

Let's not forget Falco and Peach are both used fairly often in tournaments as well.

 

[BigRick]

Haha, too good. This thread is now about equivalent sentences/analogies.

Aha, trop bon. Ce sujet est maintenant sur les phrases équivalentes/analogies.

 

[TheManaLord]

I saw a Makoto player take out an entire team in Super Battle Opera. He demolished with her.

Also, Urien (Ice Climbers), Akuma (Captain Falcon), and Yang (ummm, dunno) also get tournament play.

3rd Strike Tier List:

Yun
Chun

Ken
Mak.
Dud.
Yang

Akuma
Urien
Ryu
Oro
Ibuki
Elena

Necro
Alex
Remy

Q
12
Hugo

Sean

 

[BigRick]

Hmm ManaLord actually gave me a good idea... here it goes!!!

3S to Smash char comparison list:

Yun - Fox
Chun - Marth

Ken - Sheik
Mak. - Peach
Dud. - Falco
Yang - C.Falcon

Akuma - Jigglypuff!
Urien - ICs
Ryu - Mario/Doc
Oro - Samus (lol no pun intended!)
Ibuki - Luigi
Elena - Ganondorf

Necro - Roy
Alex - DK
Remy - Young Link

Q - Zelda
12 - Ness/Yoshi
Hugo - Bowser

Sean - Kirby

 

[cablepuff]

well the evo final winner was all yun (top 2) 2007 and top 4 2006.

I don't see tourney finals being fox dittos.

 

[BigRick]

Well I was not comparing rankings, I was trying to make a comparison between characters based on their attributes and playstyles.

 

[Binx]

Well I was not comparing rankings, I was trying to make a comparison between characters based on their attributes and playstyles.

That means Chun Li does nothing but grab and Fsmash lols, jk jk.

Mad SF respect I just think smash is deeper and more fun.

In Smash Bros. I hear there are only 3 usable characters in tournament, Fox, Marth, Sheik. Also at least to me the gameplay doesn't seem as deep because it only uses 2 buttons, the same aspects apply such as mindgames and spacing, and a pro Smasher would ruin me, but at the same time the game lacks high/lows parries and so forth.

We do have power shielding though which is kind of like a parry except we can't use ours in the air And I guess I have to concede that the top 3 on our list is much more likely to win an entire tournament than any other characters, still though SF doesnt have platform combos, and we DO have a wall infinite or 2 haha.

 

[brawlpro]

In Smash Bros. I hear there are only 3 usable characters in tournament, Fox, Marth, Sheik. Also at least to me the gameplay doesn't seem as deep because it only uses 2 buttons, the same aspects apply such as mindgames and spacing, and a pro Smasher would ruin me, but at the same time the game lacks high/lows parries and so forth.

I heard this bird was used plenty too.

 

[TyrantWolf]

I heard this bird was used plenty too.

Let's not forget Dudley and Makoto are both used fairly often in tournaments as well.

Let's not forget Falco and Peach are both used fairly often in tournaments as well.

Failure. lol.

Aswell, BigRick. That list is so win, omg pure win.

 

[TheManaLord]

Kind of inaccurate, if you're comparing what characters are similar to who (in respect to their own games) then it's wrong. But just showing the tier list side by side then sure.

 

[brawlpro]

Failure. lol.

How did me and dazwa fail...and, lol?

 

[Aesir]

We do have power shielding though which is kind of like a parry except we can't use ours in the air And I guess I have to concede that the top 3 on our list is much more likely to win an entire tournament than any other characters, still though SF doesnt have platform combos, and we DO have a wall infinite or 2 haha.

Now but they have many other things >_>

 

[TyrantWolf]

How did me and dazwa fail...and, lol?

I meant that he already mentioned that part about Falco being usable. No beef mang. <3

 

[TheManaLord]

Smash and 3s both have a lot of things in them, smash has more little techniques and lots of character specific techniques and whatnot.

IMO it's harder to get into and play smash at a competitive level but it's MUCH MUCH MUCH harder to actually become pro at 3s.

 

[brawlpro]

No beef mang. <3

eh alright, <3

 

[ike_love]

That means Chun Li does nothing but grab and Fsmash lols, jk jk.

Mad SF respect I just think smash is deeper and more fun.

smash is not deeper than street fighter. all the characters on street fighter have a chance of winning. it's not like that on smash, where only a few select characters on the game have a good chance of winning. Plus every body successful at smash pretty much have similar styles of play. on street fighter you can play the same characters with oober different styles and still be successful.

 

[TheManaLord]

smash is not deeper than street fighter. all the characters on street fighter have a chance of winning. it's not like that on smash, where only a few select characters on the game have a good chance of winning. Plus every body successful at smash pretty much have similar styles of play. on street fighter you can play the same characters with oober different styles and still be successful.

You're obviously biased and have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[slikvik]

smash is not deeper than street fighter. all the characters on street fighter have a chance of winning. it's not like that on smash, where only a few select characters on the game have a good chance of winning. Plus every body successful at smash pretty much have similar styles of play. on street fighter you can play the same characters with oober different styles and still be successful.

I also agree with Manalord. you dont know what you are talking about

 

[C@sH Mooney]

I also agree with Manalord. you dont know what you are talking about

I 3rd that

 

[StripesOrBars]

Smash is without a doubt, the deepest fighting game.

That's why I can't see Brawl(which as of right now seems like its gonna completely blow chunks) taking melee's spot.

Melee will live on forever.

 

[MASAHIROx]

if only melee was online and had a match making / ranking system that halo does....