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Till I read, but I see a Ditzy wagon.
RR, I see you, tell me something important about this game besides the Toastin vs. Swiss argument that was silly and ended up in Kuzi getting lynched. Soup/Joey/PL should also tell me things and be friends with me this game.
Ditz's post is disgusting because it is an incredibly half-***** push. For one, he doesn't explain what he's thinking, and just says "hurr durr swiss is obviously afraid of kary." (He doesn't connect this t being scum at all) In addition, he doesn't act on that post. He doesn't vote swiss, he doesn't even mention his current read on swiss.I don’t like Dark Horse’s 566, either :/. His Kary and Ditz points are disgusting. Ditz had a fair point in the sudden read change of Swiss, and he pretty much calls Kary scum, but he goes back on it with “he was the first to attack swiss”, something that is pretty easy to do after the Kuz town flip.
60% maybe (where 50% is like a null, 100% is obvscum)@Kary: How confident are you in this Swiss scum read?
This isn't a question but w/e here are some thoughts. I've just written a stream of consciousness wall, but I'm going to try and sum it up:“This early in the day, and you’re already worried about how your vote looks?” seems like a person trying to make someone look like scum instead of hunting for scum. The rest of Kary’s 557 is horrid as well. I don’t understand his attack on Swiss at all (it’s rather crappy out of what I’ve read so far), and I feel like he’s attacking Swiss for things that aren’t scummy when it comes to swiss. “You also don't clear up what the difference is between Anti-Swiss and pro-town are, but are adamant that you will need immunity.” …Yeah. Stuff like this. I can’t tell if this post puts Kary at dumb town or scum, though. I’m leaning scum since he let out a lot of stuff in the wall that seems to make the case more trying to convince town instead of trying to hunt. Swiss also had Kuz as scum in 313 according to Dark Horse list, and posts like 305 show Swiss going towards that direction. I feel like his case as a whole is just a reach and I wouldn’t mind some Kary pressure.
Glyph's D1 reads 101. Well golly gee though Glyph why'd you not explain yourself if you had time and the means of doing so?I'll be brief.
Soup and JD are town.
RR and DH are scum.
I'm intentionally not commenting on Kuz, Swiss, and FF.
Myyyy goodness, what's this! Noble RR, selfless to the end. This post is so utterly grimy that I almost thought he was a BRoomer. Lets look at why!Did Glyph explain his reads at all, more so the DH one? Pretty sure he didn't.
Potential RR Defense: 'I didn't even know you had me as scum when I made that post.' NO LONGER USABLEWashed, Glyph had me as a scum read.
Like Washed vote, but premature.
Dislike Adumb vote, poor justification.
So then I show up and say some more words about pretty much nothing, but I DO say that I still stand by my old reads. Which most of you seem to have forgotten. Buuuuuuuuuuut guess who suddenly things I'm not only vig bait (which would be understandable), but now I'm 'wonderful' vig bait. Meaning I am a very high target on RR's kill list. HOW BOUT DAT ****.Viging Glyph sounds like a wonderful idea right now.
And finally, the outward reach designed to not just recruit WL to the Glyph wagon, but set him up as the guy to lead the charge against me. Just look at this question and tell me you don't see RR digging for the 'well I guess we'll have to kill him' answer. But RR can't say that.WL what do you expect to do with Glyph if he contiues like this if the best he can get is null?
I'm thoroughly amused that you take the thing you should be suspecting Swiss for as null and take the thing you are suspecting Swiss for as scummy.I don't know what to make of Swiss' reaction or vote on me; I'm taking them as null.
My suspicion of that slot remains; J's entrance reads more or less null to me; I will probably have to re-read J at some point, looking for tells.
I can't tell whether Swiss really has this giant ego AND was wrong about Kuz, or is just scum. Swiss didn't care to elaborate on his Kuz scumread, and I couldn't see where it had come from. I was still trying to read both of them yesterday, but then quicklynch happened.
I do NOT want people letting Swiss' slot off the hook because 'oh that's just how Swiss plays'. I will admit I'm not the best at getting reads but I would really like this one cleared up ASAP.
On re-read it actually comes off as him trying to be funny before going V/LA lol. I'm going to wait for him to come back before discussing this any more though.Ditz's post is disgusting because it is an incredibly half-***** push. For one, he doesn't explain what he's thinking, and just says "hurr durr swiss is obviously afraid of kary." (He doesn't connect this t being scum at all) In addition, he doesn't act on that post. He doesn't vote swiss, he doesn't even mention his current read on swiss.
Ah. I over-reacted to the word "reaching" because of how much he reached in that wall xD. Sorry about that.Though I can see where you're coming at with Kary, I thought he was town up until his attack on swiss, which bumped him down to null. I thought his swiss case was scummy, but I didn't "pretty much call kary scum."
And then Ruy completely misses everything about it.Why was I scum before that point along with DH?
You made reasoning after the fact and I'm curious to why you made those reads.
@Joey: He's not which is sad.
100% serious. What part of that post made you think it was a joke?Glyph I can't tell if this is a joke or not lol.
@ Kary: Have you had this lack of confidence the whole time in Swiss? It seems like you were pretty confident in the wall you had, and when Swiss posted that he got arrested, your "Well, there goes my push" shows that you had potential confidence before his replacement.
Don't worry about it champ. Focus on the here and now.Why was I scum before that point along with DH?
You made reasoning after the fact and I'm curious to why you made those reads.
@Joey: He's not which is sad.
Funny how you knew it was a serious post and were confident enough to call it OMGUS without reading it.Getting to that since I'm actually now reading it.
Town worries as well and I was more worried about your random reads without reason. You have a habit of coasting and I hate inactives/coasters as much as Omni does.Glyph's D1 reads 101. Well golly gee though Glyph why'd you not explain yourself if you had time and the means of doing so?
The answer is simple. I know what things bother scum, and one of the biggest ones if being called scum for no reason. I'm sure you've all had it happen to you, you're playing a game as scum, feelin good the whole way along and then some idiot shows up and calls you scum out of left field. Think back to how you felt reading that post... were you angry? Worried? Enthralled by the chance to crush another player? Regardless, the most important thing to take away from this is that the post would be memorable to someone who was called out as scum.
So, we've got our bait and we've got two potential targets. We let them sit for a bit and ....
I've wondered what it is like back there.Myyyy goodness, what's this! Noble RR, selfless to the end. This post is so utterly grimy that I almost thought he was a BRoomer. Lets look at why!
I wanted reads from others along from you.REASON NUMBER #1: THE INDIRECT CALLOUT. RR wants attention to be on myself, but doesn't really want to be the driving force behind it. That ****'s risky as scum, its hella easier to just throw the information out there and wait for someone else to pick it up.
Worried about DH reads, but isn't worried about his reads. Huh?REASON NUMBER #2: 'I AIN'T EVEN SCARED'. Absolutely no mention of the scum read on himself. No 'wow Glyph where did that come from' or 'wtf you're a moron, have you even read what I've been doing?'. No no, RR is just worried about that unusual DH read of course.
You pretty much admit it's null in your first sentence an don't even ask why I brought you up when if you look at my questions with WL should have been obvious.REASON NUMBER #3: LITTLE THING CALLED MOTIVE. Why would RR make this post. Motive is a tricky little thing in mafia, since it really can be spun any damn way you want, but in this case I'd like to hear what prompted this. Go ahead and read back on D2. There's no mention on lil' ol Glyphmoney before this post. What caused RR to remember me at THIS particular time, and why'd he bring it up in such a cautious manner?
This doesn't mean anything at all when your "gambit" wanted me to see this. So why would me making that statement, if I ever missed it, mean anything?Potential RR Defense: 'I didn't even know you had me as scum when I made that post.' NO LONGER USABLE
You were actively doing nothing.So then I show up and say some more words about pretty much nothing, but I DO say that I still stand by my old reads. Which most of you seem to have forgotten. Buuuuuuuuuuut guess who suddenly things I'm not only vig bait (which would be understandable), but now I'm 'wonderful' vig bait. Meaning I am a very high target on RR's kill list. HOW BOUT DAT ****.
Washed made a comment about how you playing like this was incredibly null. I wanted a connection to use based on this comment more.And finally, the outward reach designed to not just recruit WL to the Glyph wagon, but set him up as the guy to lead the charge against me. Just look at this question and tell me you don't see RR digging for the 'well I guess we'll have to kill him' answer. But RR can't say that.
He's gotta get someone else to.
Cuz he's scum.
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To me it looked like you calling me out for attention on yourself. Which it was.100% serious. What part of that post made you think it was a joke?
Don't worry about it champ. Focus on the here and now.
Funny how you knew it was a serious post and were confident enough to call it OMGUS without reading it.
Eh? How was it funny?On re-read it actually comes off as him trying to be funny before going V/LA lol. I'm going to wait for him to come back before discussing this any more though.
Huh. Is that so? Because you know what I just saw? Adumb responding to a prod. You know how you get prods? Being inactive.Town worries as well and I was more worried about your random reads without reason. You have a habit of coasting and I hate inactives/coasters as much as Omni does.
Yeah it really jumped out at you huh. That must be why you responded to it so quickly.You listed random reads and refused to acknowledge them nor answer questions. I remember you specifically because you listed reads I couldn't grasp outside of the Soup one.
That caught my attention.
Tis a magical placeI've wondered what it is like back there.
First off, the post in question is not directed at any player. Its just you saying 'oh my gosh guys, that glyph guy right?! Wasn't he supposed to do something? I don't know!'I wanted reads from others along from you.
I've been questioning WL to see how he stood on handling you and working on where it could go.
Did Glyph explain his reads at all, more so the DH one? Pretty sure he didn't.
Okay apparently I wasn't clear enough in laying this out the first time? In my first post, I said RR/DH scum. You are RR. In your (eventual) response, you don't even address the fact that I've called you scum for no reason. But you're real worried about poor old DH.Worried about DH reads, but isn't worried about his reads. Huh?
I wanted you to answer Swiss instead of dodging him.
LOL. I 'pretty much admit'. Okay. So then RR, WHY did you want to see how others were gonna handle me? Why was that such a major concern at the time?You pretty much admit it's null in your first sentence an don't even ask why I brought you up when if you look at my questions with WL should have been obvious.
I wanted elaboration and to see how others were gonna handle you
That's there to keep you going where I want you to go. I don't want you doubling back on yourself, so I went ahead and herded you like a watchful guardian spirit.This doesn't mean anything at all when your "gambit" wanted me to see this. So why would me making that statement, if I ever missed it, mean anything?
Oh my gosh, the number #1 spot?! I don't even know who to thank. Nevermind shooting scummy people, its those damn inactives that gotta go. Especially the ones who rarely play early game, they're the worst!You were actively doing nothing.
People who actively do nothing get on my vig list very fast, Felipe, JTB etc. are commonly on my need to be dealt with list.
You showed no effort to change this and wanted you dead for that reason. That earns a #1 spot on my vig list.
He was pretty clear that the null read would change as the game went on. Rather than just kill things he doesn't understand, Laundry opts to take that oh so forlorn 'actually playing mafia' route.Washed made a comment about how you playing like this was incredibly null. I wanted a connection to use based on this comment more.
He wants you dealt with, but not immediately and rather with PRs over a lynch.
Sure town would be concerned, but they also wouldn't dwell on it past the initial posting of it. There's more important **** to worry about. But considering you're the only person to be so panicked about it, its pretty obvious what the answer is to your question. You're the one who brought it up out of nowhere. You're the one who kept pushing at killing my slot.~
Tell my Glyph, do you really think town and scum wouldn't both be considered with you throwing out seemly random reads?
Why only scum?
I try to keep a joking tone for the most part to make reading it a bit less tedious, but I can see how it threw you haha@Glyph: It was the lines like "Potential RR Defense: 'I didn't even know you had me as scum when I made that post.' NO LONGER USABLE" and "Buuuuuuuuuuut guess who suddenly things I'm not only vig bait (which would be understandable), but now I'm 'wonderful' vig bait. Meaning I am a very high target on RR's kill list. HOW BOUT DAT ****." that came across as joking lol.
You really have to ask me that?Washed, what's the difference between Kary and Blazer?
Why is that?I'm really liking Glyph's logic here. I wanna see where all this leads. Neat trick.