TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT

[BirthNote]

I think Dingodile has this match. I would say K.Rool, but realistcally speaking Dingodile's flamethrower works very well. And even though he usually stays in one spot during the fight, when he takes a hit in Twinsanity he gets knocked out of his...'comfort zone' and the returns to it to resume his attacks. That demonstrates his weight and speed, since the screen does shake. K.Rool is stronger though.

 

[Nova9000]

Nova they made a mistake in that episode, when they tested the blunderbuss I believe, the target wasn't fully clad, they just put an armor plate in, Knights have extra armor under that i.e. chainmail which would fully absorb any shots that managed to pierce the plate.

http://www.spike.com/video/blunderbuss/3152804

BTW, what they messed up on was the cutlass; they never took into consideration the armor of the knight and because of tht the cutlass was deemed equal but the knight should have had advantage in that.

 

[UncleSam]

http://www.spike.com/video/blunderbuss/3152804

BTW, what they messed up on was the cutlass; they never took into consideration the armor of the knight and because of tht the cutlass was deemed equal but the knight should have had advantage in that.

also the grenado seemed kinda iffy to me, it did close to no damage to armor and with full body armor it will do nothing, you could even see in the slo-mo, not only was the blast radius ridiculously small, but the knockback done to the armor compared to the naked carcasses was a big difference.
but w/e
EDIT: can't see the vid. but looking at the length it's probably a clip of the full episode.

 

[Nova9000]

also the grenado seemed kinda iffy to me, it did close to no damage to armor and with full body armor it will do nothing, you could even see in the slo-mo, not only was the blast radius ridiculously small, but the knockback done to the armor compared to the naked carcasses was a big difference.
but w/e
EDIT: can't see the vid. but looking at the length it's probably a clip of the full episode.

The grenado did suck....the pirate really only had the blunderbuss...

In regards to the MU, IDK who wins at this point. The blunderbuss is ****, but only at a range where Dingo can roast him easy. But the cannos do present a different look. But I'd probably say Dingodile has this.

 

[UncleSam]

The grenado did suck....the pirate really only had the blunderbuss...

In regards to the MU, IDK who wins at this point. The blunderbuss is ****, but only at a range where Dingo can roast him easy. But the cannos do present a different look. But I'd probably say Dingodile has this.

since the blunderbuss is such an old weapon it doesn't pack as much punch to it's projectile, that's why it's accuracy goes down along distance, the cannon is better at a longer range and more powerful.

 

[REL38]

Wait, when did K. Rool ever use a cannon?

 

[UncleSam]

IDK.
and joe when you make a new MU post the weapons along with your post not just OP
I don't want to go back to the OP every MU

 

[Nova9000]

Hmmm...where is he firing the cannon from? I never knew he had a cannon except for the blunderbuss that shot fire and stuff.

 

[UncleSam]

Hmmm...where is he firing the cannon from? I never knew he had a cannon except for the blunderbuss that shot fire and stuff.

OP says he has a cannon as well.
and a cannon would easily outrange a flamethrower.

 

[Nova9000]

OP says he has a cannon as well.
and a cannon would easily outrange a flamethrower.

Couldn't Dingodile just.....dodge?

 

[UncleSam]

Couldn't Dingodile just.....dodge?

IMO you could say that about both of K. Rool's weapons.
Blunderbuss is inaccurate at long ranges and at close range there's a flamethrower to compete with.
I'm not for either right now, this MU just doesn't interest me as much.

 

[Nova9000]

IMO you could say that about both of K. Rool's weapons.
Blunderbuss is inaccurate at long ranges and at close range there's a flamethrower to compete with.
I'm not for either right now, this MU just doesn't interest me as much.

And that's why I'm thinking Dingodile wins this. He has a lot more room for error while K. Rool is all or nothing for both the blunderbuss and cannon.

 

[Beren Zaiga]

And that's why I'm thinking Dingodile wins this. He has a lot more room for error while K. Rool is all or nothing for both the blunderbuss and cannon.

Cannon is out, too large and unwieldy to use.

The Blunderbuss would need to use a huge slug to be at all accurate because of the flared barrel making buckshot too wide a spread, either that or he needs to load the **** thing so that it is loaded with buckshot almost to the point of spilling out.

Otherwise the Blunderbuss isn't going to hit anything even at short range.

K. Rool's only chance would be a a close-range shot, and thats assuming he ever gets the chance to fire the Blunderbuss, and if he has it equipped with a ton of buckshot.

You can't dodge a spread of buckshot if there is enough to cover a large area at close range.

However, I think Dingodile wins due to the flamethrower.

 

[payasofobia]

Talk about contestants I don't know anything about.

Anyway, modern flamethrowers have an effective range of up to 80 meters IRL and were amazing close quarter weapons, which made them widely used in trench warfare.

Blunderbusses failed as military weapons back in the 1800's because of their incredibly short range and innacuracy. Think about it: the blunderbuss was considered a failure in a time where guns were still fairly primitive and innacurate.

In a blunderbuss vs Flamethrower fight, it is obvious who wins.


That said, the cannon could maybe give K.Roll a chance, seeing those have a range of up to 1.8 killometers. But, unless he has Falco's sight and Kirby's luck, he is not going to hit anything with it.


I say it is obvious who wins.


BTW, I was about to call bull**** on Cloud vs Crono, but then I remembered that Cloud got grenades and machine guns, and then I disregarded what I was about to say.

Also, we need to fit Leon in some way or another.

 

[UncleSam]

I still say SeeD vs. SOLDIER would be the best MU ever.

 

[payasofobia]

Who is this SOLDIER and this SeeD you speak about?

Anyway, Leon would get the guns he gets in Mercenaries mode. Riot gun, Blacktail and knife.

And the Chicago Typewriter for the sake of the Chicago Typewriter.

 

[UncleSam]

they're like, military operative groups from FF 7 & 8
FF8 has SeeD and FF7 has SOLDIER

 

[MarthTrinity]

BTW, I was about to call bull**** on Cloud vs Crono, but then I remembered that Cloud got grenades and machine guns, and then I disregarded what I was about to say.

Actually, in the matchup he had none of that. All he had was his Buster Sword but people said he could magically disarm Crono <.<

 

[Sieguest]

Actually, in the matchup he had none of that. All he had was his Buster Sword but people said he could magically disarm Crono <.<

Please explain what was so "magical" about it....
>.>

 

[Beren Zaiga]

Holy crap! Payas, NaCl, AND Marthage here at once?

The world must be ending.

@Payas: Call bull**** on Cloud vs Crono why? I'm interested.

 

[Sieguest]

Holy crap! Payas, NaCl, AND Marthage here at once?

The world must be ending.

@Payas: Call bull**** on Cloud vs Crono why? I'm interested.

@_@ Double reference?

 

[Sieguest]

Lagehness fml.
ignore this post.

 

[payasofobia]

No need to know. Cloud wins with or without buster sword.

Anyway, something very sad happened in my country. The only organization that hosted video game tournaments is dead.

No more smash, no more halo, no more Street Fighter and, most importantly, no more Marvel vs Capcom for me.

 

[REL38]

What country is that?

 

[Sieguest]

What country is that?

*looks at Payas location*

... Idunno

 

[Sgt. Baker]

they're like, military operative groups from FF 7 & 8
FF8 has SeeD and FF7 has SOLDIER

Yeah but would commanders be leading their units? If so I think Squall would have Cloud in the unit area but what about Sephiroth taking on Quisists? Once the commander is out the units are without orders. Still, I would love to discuss this more just like you

Anyways yeah I really know nothing of these two matchups. I'm trying to get more involved with TDB but I'm stumped with no knowledge of either combatant on this one lol


EDIT: I never knew how to pronounce SeeD lol: is it said like "seed" or "see-D"?

 

[Nova9000]

No need to know. Cloud wins with or without buster sword.

Anyway, something very sad happened in my country. The only organization that hosted video game tournaments is dead.

No more smash, no more halo, no more Street Fighter and, most importantly, no more Marvel vs Capcom for me.

Spoiler

Throwback for you...

What u tlkin bout, Payas?

 

[JOE!]

Dats my picture my good sir.....

anywho, anything new on this Mu or is K.Rool toast? (punny, arent I?)

 

[REL38]

Dats my picture my good sir.....

anywho, anything new on this Mu or is K.Rool toast? (punny, arent I?)

Yeah, where'd he get a cannon?

 

[JOE!]

he uses cannon balls all the time in his boss fights in DKC(2)....it's assumed he has access to a cannon

 

[Nova9000]

Yeah but would commanders be leading their units? If so I think Squall would have Cloud in the unit area but what about Sephiroth taking on Quisists? Once the commander is out the units are without orders. Still, I would love to discuss this more just like you

Anyways yeah I really know nothing of these two matchups. I'm trying to get more involved with TDB but I'm stumped with no knowledge of either combatant on this one lol


EDIT: I never knew how to pronounce SeeD lol: is it said like "seed" or "see-D"?

Trust me, I didn't know anything either (hence why I only lurk in the canon thread). But just look up some characters and you'll get the hang of it.

Dats my picture my good sir.....

anywho, anything new on this Mu or is K.Rool toast? (punny, arent I?)

Sorry, lurking has its rewards...and I don't see K. Rool standing a chance.

 

[Nihongo-ookami]

SeeD VS SOLDIER, SOLDIER takes it. SeeD is good, but they're kids. Around the 16-18 year old range. And they use the most unwieldy of weapons. A whip? A pair of freaking nunchaku?

SOLDIER, however, are battle-trained soldiers with years of experience. They use Swords and Guns. This is all that's really needed. They are genetically infused with Mako to make them incredibly strong and give them amazing endurance.

SeeD is a bunch of kids with weapons.

Assuming we disallow summons(which I'm sure we do), this means that SeeD won't have their precious GFs to junction, and therefore are set at their base stats.

FF8 is one of my favorite games of all time, but I have to say, SOLDIER would win in that matchup. SOLDIER's got the brawn, the experience, and the training. SeeD really has nothing but unpredictability. SeeD is used to Guerrila tactics, which SOLDIER is used to fighting against.

 

[REL38]

he uses cannon balls all the time in his boss fights in DKC(2)....it's assumed he has access to a cannon

I have never once seen him man a cannon

He uses his Blunderbust as a cannon in DKC2
In DKC, he leaps to the other side of the ship while cannon balls fall from overhead


I see no "assumed" reason here when he plainly never uses one

 

[JOE!]

so, K.Rool gets roasted....

(and i must warn you, i need to make new pics after i post this, so we may be on this for a bit longer XD)

Each of them are armored, but Dialga's is tougher.

Weapons are Biting, Claws (moreso Groudon) and Horns (moreso Dialga)

 

[Sgt. Baker]

Wait until all the Pokemon Masters get in here lol


If we're going by their typing of Dialga (Steel/Dragon) and Groudon (Ground) then Groudon as an the advantage at the start. BUUUT, I'm assuming as non-canon then typing doesn't come into play. lol

Groudon is a bipedal behemoth standing ON TWO LEGS at 11'06" and weighing in at 2094 lbs.
Dialga is a quadrapedal monster standing ON FOUR LEGS at 17'09" and weighning in at 1505 lbs.

At far range combat I say it should be about even if anything tipping in Dialga's favor. Groudon may be able to keep Dialga at bay with mass earthquakes (and if srtuck can potentially trap Diagla- giving Groudon a chance to get close), but Diagla being a dragon we can assume use fire to keep Groudon at a distance- and with that I believe being able to effectively hit Groudon more likey if Diagla goes airborne (jumps) then fires.

At close range I believe it can be even too but I think whoever hits first is the winner. Both are masssive creatures (with Diagla being taller but Groudon being heavier). It is shown that physically, Groudon is the stronger of the two but look at their bodies. Assuming Groudon's Ground typing it's stated that his armor/plates are made of harden/molten rock/lava. That may be very strong indeed but Diagla's body is stronger, it can be inferred to be made out of maybe a few areas on dragon scales but mostly steel plating.

The weapons they have also differ. Diagla appears to have horns stinking out of its head and fangs. Its tail may be used for attacking as well. Groudon, on the other hand, is set. Its has claws, teeth, spikes alongside its sides along with spkes and a "claw" on its tail.

Let's say Diagla is the fater of the two, running on 4 legs and being about 500 pounds lighter. Diagla should focus on hit and run tactics and/or trying to get Groudon to the ground-by Groudon physique looks like if he lands on his back he is screwed. Groudon really only needs one good hit to knock Diagla off course and if Groudon gets a hold of Diagla it's over for Diagla.


So, in the end, I give it this:
Long-Range Distance: Probably Diagla, by only a slight bit.
Close-Range Distance: Could go either way, but I believe Groudon has a bigger advantage.

 

[UncleSam]

Wait until all the Pokemon Masters get in here lol

Dialga is used way more in Ubers.
in a realistic sense Groudon is heavier, yet Dialga is more heavily protected? odd.

 

[Sgt. Baker]

I just went by what bulbapedia said about height/weight lol. Yeah I too find it odd too but I guess just think: Groudon's body is made ofrock/hard lava and Dialga is made out of steel/metals.

EDIT: And although some areas of Diagla look visible (aka dragon scales?), Groudon's whole underside appears to be open/softer rock? lol

 

[UncleSam]

I always think about this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Skin_(body_armor)
whenever I hear dragon scales.
Now that I think about it, this would be a good representation of dialga's skin, except metals not ceramic plates.

 

[Nihongo-ookami]

Dialga. Essentially a GOD OF TIME. Think of this.

Dialga's Got this. He's larger, his moves trump most of Groudon's in every way possible.

 

[UncleSam]

No matter how hard you try you can't manipulate time.