TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT

[REL38]

There are poisons that kill ants but cant kill us? Know why? Because each poison has it owns specific quemichal build, and it poison has its strenght.

For a instance, there are poisons that would kill 2 humans with just 0.000005 g of it, but would only make a tiger go numb.

So unless you can measure the actual strenght of the poison you cant say it is good/bad/etc....

So with that said, a giant ape can handle the poison just fine, based on the damage it deals on pokemon.

So you're trying to convince us that Ivy's only source of defense will only kill ants?

Srsly
Ivy must protect himself from predators many, many times his size IRL.
He can't move with his physique.
The plant is what gives him his entire defense to survive.
A plant like that would atttract insects for Ivy to eat with odor.
It would kill with spore-ites.

These spore-ites serve absolutely zero hand in reproduction. They are a defense mechanism. Ivy can't live if he can't ward off giant predators that see him as easy food. He would have developed a lethal poison to ward off predators. If predators see fellow predators dying from the spore-ites, then evolution has achieved its purpose.

That's why this still ends up being a TIE.

 

[UncleSam]

I say you are wrong, and adum is wrong because he cant/you cant disprove me whereas i can talk.

What about now?

I'm not the Ivy expert here bro.

 

[tocador]

So you're trying to convince us that Ivy's only source of defense will only kill ants?

Srsly
Ivy must protect himself from predators many, many times his size IRL.
He can't move with his physique.
The plant is what gives him his entire defense to survive.
A plant like that would atttract insects for Ivy to eat with odor.
It would kill with spore-ites.

These spore-ites serve absolutely zero hand in reproduction. They are a defense mechanism. Ivy can't live if he can't ward off giant predators that see him as easy food. He would have developed a lethal poison to ward off predators. If predators see fellow predators dying from the spore-ites, then evolution has achieved its purpose.

That's why this still ends up being a TIE.

I never said ivy could only kill ants. But im saying that our only source of info on his poison strentgh IS the game, unless you can invent something to cover it up, it will be the game.

Now moving forward: On the game, the poison actually did some decent damage to the early levels of pokemons, from(lets say) level 1 - 25 it did some good damage, but after pokemons got second or third evolution, they had so much god dam health compared to what the poison did in damage(5 or 10) that is turned out useless.

So basing on that, the poison should be able to kill small animals, the usual prey of a carnivore the size of ivyssaur, whereas if a freegin ape, or tiger attack ivyssaur, well, lets say he better be in group or he better know how to run.

 

[JOE!]

a spider's bite can kill a human.

that size ratio is soooooo much bigger than ivy to an ape it's not even funny...

Poisons for defense come in 2 forms:

Bad tasting, or DEATH.

Im pretty sure Ivy doenst have a bad-taste defense..

 

[tocador]

a spider's bite can kill a human.

that size ratio is soooooo much bigger than ivy to an ape it's not even funny...

Poisons for defense come in 2 forms:

Bad tasting, or DEATH.

Im pretty sure Ivy doenst have a bad-taste defense..

You still dont get it do you?

Why do we have stuff that we think "taste bad?" Do you know why evolution did this to us? Because in the pasts, the ones that found what we think have "bad taste" had good taste, ended up dying, because prolly the bad taste was poisonous.

Something having a bad taste usually means its dangerous, usually poisonous. So if something usually tasted bad in nature, its because it cant be good for you.

Yeah, a spider bite can kill, just like a snake bite, or a tiger bite. Each animal has its specific defense/preying ability, and each other animal has something he is imune too in order to live.

Just like a coral bite can kill us and not a elephant, there are poisons that can kill small animals that cant kill us.

Ivy is shown to be rather small, and for what we all know he could be a herbivore. With that said, he may only use the poison to defend itself agaisnt big predators, or he can be a carnivore/omnivore that uses its poison to kill its preys.

In neither of the cases you can say its poison will kill a animal much bigger than him, like a ape for example.

TL;DR, ivy isnt a spider, or a snake, or anything, so why do you say his poison is as strong as one of those animals?

 

[JOE!]

yes, each animal has it's specific defense.

Ivy is too slow to be a predator, he'd be more like a scavenger/forgager. Using poison to kill prey is useless as he isnt stealthy, and the big flower warns others of poison.

seeing as he cannot run from threats, the logical defense would be something that scares away or simply kills threats to himself without (hopefully) getting himself in harm's way.

that said, his poison is most likley to defend itself from predators, and thus be potent.(the DoT from pokemon is a game mechanic to keep poison from being OP)

 

[REL38]

@Toc

What would kill Ivysaur?

Charizards, Ursarings, Kangaskan and Raticates.

Predators much larger than himself.
This requires a defense that kills these predators so it has no need to worry about predators.

Ivysaur can't move. Ivysaur can't hunt.
This makes him extremely easy game if he has no defense.
That wipes out the entire Saur species.
Without any defense, his species are a dead one.
But his species do thrive.
His species live due to the spore-ites they posses that kill.
Evolution gives Ivy the ability to live.

That makes it a TIE.

 

[Sieguest]

You still dont get it do you?

Why do we have stuff that we think "taste bad?" Do you know why evolution did this to us? Because in the pasts, the ones that found what we think have "bad taste" had good taste, ended up dying, because prolly the bad taste was poisonous.

Something having a bad taste usually means its dangerous, usually poisonous. So if something usually tasted bad in nature, its because it cant be good for you.

You're way off the mark, how some tastes is completely based off of the development of your taste buds which varies among every human, almost as much as fingerprints.

Because sauerkraut tastes bad to me, does it mean that it's bad for me? I think not.

Someone may inlay poison in your drink, does it all of a sudden taste bad? I wouldn't think so since so many people fall victim to it >___>

Ivy developed spores as a defense for its species to survive, naturally it's developed methods of survival with giant fungus...

it's called symbiosis

 

[tocador]

You're way off the mark, how some tastes is completely based off of the development of your taste buds which varies among every human, almost as much as fingerprints.

Because sauerkraut tastes bad to me, does it mean that it's bad for me? I think not.

Someone may inlay poison in your drink, does it all of a sudden taste bad? I wouldn't think so since so many people fall victim to it >___>

Ivy developed spores as a defense for its species to survive, naturally it's developed methods of survival with giant fungus...

it's called symbiosis

You cant live with a giant fungus on your back, just to point out.

And now-a-days people have different tastes, and sure there are ones that find it delicious things normal people would find disgusting.

These are the people that would die in the wilds, because our taste is used to only eat whats not poisoned and not dangerous.

For a instance: Why do people find it tastefull to eat chocolate/sweet things/pasta.... Its not because we find it funny or anything, its because these foods have really important nutrients for us, like "glicose, carboidratos, fat"(i cant spell all of thos in english sorry), so our body is allready used to eat such kind of stuff.

So yeah, what we tend to find awfull and disgusting would prolly end up killing us in the wilds, and thats because our body evolved in such a way.

So besides everything said, yeah ivy would problably use its poison as a defense mechanism, but it dosent mean it would kill DK.

The deadliests spiders arround can sure kill us in one bite, but can they kill a Horse? A lion? A elephant? Most of them cant.

Just because you need to protect yoursel ***aisnt predators, it dosent mean you can protect yourself agaisnt everything. For a instance, there is a fish that has a really strong poison, that can basically kill a man. These type of fish oftenly get eaten by sharks, but when a shark eat it, it goes numb for about 3 days, and cant see or think properly.

So besides it not killing the shark(even tho is kills the small ones) the shark wont eat that kind of fish again? Knows why? Because it learns that it seriously injures him eating the fish.

So yeah, thats a example of how a poison can be deadly and warn predators withought in fact killing them.

 

[JOE!]

theres a huge difference between the fish example and an airborne poison.

the fish's is diluted by stomach acid, the inhaled one goes DIRECTLY TO THE BLOOD.


anywho, we're on sonic vs yoshi

 

[sinickranger]

Sonic would win. Pretty much the only thing Yoshi could do is step on Sonic, which would be like stepping on spikes.

Hedgehogs have teeth, and have been recorded to kill snakes. If they can kill a snake, they can kill a Yoshi!

 

[Sieguest]

You cant live with a giant fungus on your back, just to point out.

That's because we're not developed in a way to suit this...

And now-a-days people have different tastes, and sure there are ones that find it delicious things normal people would find disgusting.

These are the people that would die in the wilds, because our taste is used to only eat whats not poisoned and not dangerous.[/qupte]

False, people in the wilds use natural identifiers such as color to tell whether something is poisonous.

For a instance: Why do people find it tastefull to eat chocolate/sweet things/pasta.... Its not because we find it funny or anything, its because these foods have really important nutrients for us, like "glicose, carboidratos, fat"(i cant spell all of thos in english sorry), so our body is allready used to eat such kind of stuff.

I don't like chocolate....
and most "sweet things" are at the top of the food pyramid, with fatty oils and such, not the most healthy thing...

So yeah, what we tend to find awfull and disgusting would prolly end up killing us in the wilds, and thats because our body evolved in such a way.

again untrue, taste buds are like fingerprints, if this was true, we'd all be dead because we'd probably eat a berry that's magically poisonous to us, but not poisonous to someone else because of the different way it tastes to us.

So besides everything said, yeah ivy would problably use its poison as a defense mechanism, but it dosent mean it would kill DK.

The deadliests spiders arround can sure kill us in one bite, but can they kill a Horse? A lion? A elephant? Most of them cant.

Just because you need to protect yoursel ***aisnt predators, it dosent mean you can protect yourself agaisnt everything. For a instance, there is a fish that has a really strong poison, that can basically kill a man. These type of fish oftenly get eaten by sharks, but when a shark eat it, it goes numb for about 3 days, and cant see or think properly.

So besides it not killing the shark(even tho is kills the small ones) the shark wont eat that kind of fish again? Knows why? Because it learns that it seriously injures him eating the fish.

So yeah, thats a example of how a poison can be deadly and warn predators withought in fact killing them.

*points below*

theres a huge difference between the fish example and an airborne poison.

the fish's is diluted by stomach acid, the inhaled one goes DIRECTLY TO THE BLOOD.


anywho, we're on sonic vs yoshi

exactly

Sonic would win. Pretty much the only thing Yoshi could do is step on Sonic, which would be like stepping on spikes.

Hedgehogs have teeth, and have been recorded to kill snakes. If they can kill a snake, they can kill a Yoshi!

Actually neither Sonic, nor Yoshi have a suitable body construction to sustain themselves... it's almost like Kirby vs MK
IF and WHEN they reach each other then how the heck are they going to attack each other.

 

[tocador]

That's because we're not developed in a way to suit this...

No, thats because it is impossible.

I don't like chocolate....
and most "sweet things" are at the top of the food pyramid, with fatty oils and such, not the most healthy thing...

You dont need to like chocolate. Because in now-a-days situations it dosent matter because with such a evolved world like ours you can eat anything you want and be sure it isnt going to kill you, so this kind of "you must like this" disapeared over the time.

The "sweet things" im talking about are vital for you to live. If you tried to live withought eating carbohidrates(something that people say: "omnomnom its makes you fat") you would prolly die. Eating one egg per day is whats is most advisable for your health, and veggans usually tend to live 10-20 years less than people who eat meat.

Im not saying you should only eat fried + fat + candy, but im saying that most of this foods have things you need for survival or at least to maintaing a proper working body.

again untrue, taste buds are like fingerprints, if this was true, we'd all be dead because we'd probably eat a berry that's magically poisonous to us, but not poisonous to someone else because of the different way it tastes to us.

/facepalm
Taste buds arent like fingerprints, human race has this specific things they find tastefull and what they dont, thats why we lived. Cause in the past us who liked the taste of sweet things(and meat and carbo and etc...) and dislike this bitter taste, ended up living, whereas ones that founded the bitter things "good" died, because most of these stuff were usually poisonous or didnt have whats essential for life.

So this is what you keep missing, we lost this specific taste track along the time, because with technologic evolution we ended up only eating what we want and when we want, making everyone able to develop its own taste.

*points below*

exactly

I knew you would understand ^^.

Actually neither Sonic, nor Yoshi have a suitable body construction to sustain themselves... it's almost like Kirby vs MK
IF and WHEN they reach each other then how the heck are they going to attack each other.

Yoshi yeah, really messed up with such a huuuuge head. But sonic looks properly build, shoulde be able to run just like a normal human and can punch/kick.

Sonic wins this one.

 

[tocador]

theres a huge difference between the fish example and an airborne poison.

the fish's is diluted by stomach acid, the inhaled one goes DIRECTLY TO THE BLOOD.


anywho, we're on sonic vs yoshi

Actually you are wrong.

When we breath air passes through a heck lot of things and then goes to the blood. Just so you know.

"O ar inspirado, rico em oxigênio, passa pelas vias respiratórias, sendo filtrado, umedecido, aquecido e levado aos pulmões. No íntimo pulmonar o oxigênio do ar inspirado entra na circulação sanguínea e o dióxido de carbono do sangue venoso é liberado nos alvéolos para que seja eliminado com o ar expirado. O ar expirado é pobre em oxigênio, rico em dióxido de carbono e segue caminho oposto pelo trato respiratório."

The air you breathe, full of oxygen, passes through the respiratory veins(laringe/faringe) being filtered, humidified and heated, to then being taked to the lungs. Inside the lungs, it passes the "bronquio primário", "bronquio secundário", "bronquio terciário" and"alvéolos pulmonares", each one will filltrate even more than its precessor, with the "alvéolos" being the ones responsible to then passing the air to the circulatory sistem.

So yeah, breathing isnt as "omglol easy to go in" as it seems.

 

[JOE!]

dude, yes it goes though all that, but it still goes right to the bloodstream. (or even just kills your lungs then and there)

the injested version has to deal with stomach acid.

anywho, Sonic vs Yoshi...

 

[Rialdospaldacht]

Sonic's legs cannot possibly hold up his body, therefore they break and Sonic dies by internal bleeding. Yoshi can merely stand there.

 

[Sieguest]

No, thats because it is impossible.

*facepalm* whatever toc, no I know you're off the mark

You dont need to like chocolate. Because in now-a-days situations it dosent matter because with such a evolved world like ours you can eat anything you want and be sure it isnt going to kill you, so this kind of "you must like this" disapeared over the time.

That's in direct contrast to what you were saying last time...

The "sweet things" im talking about are vital for you to live. If you tried to live withought eating carbohidrates(something that people say: "omnomnom its makes you fat") you would prolly die. Eating one egg per day is whats is most advisable for your health, and veggans usually tend to live 10-20 years less than people who eat meat.

More than sweet things have carbohydrates, sweet things in fact have few carbohydrates compared to your grains...

and carbohydrates is spelled with a "y" not an "i" but, you're in Brazil so no big deal

Im not saying you should only eat fried + fat + candy, but im saying that most of this foods have things you need for survival or at least to maintaing a proper working body.

Grains

Taste buds arent like fingerprints, human race has this specific things they find tastefull and what they dont, thats why we lived. Cause in the past us who liked the taste of sweet things(and meat and carbo and etc...) and dislike this bitter taste, ended up living, whereas ones that founded the bitter things "good" died, because most of these stuff were usually poisonous or didnt have whats essential for life.

Taste buds are like fingerprints, you'll find no two people with the EXACT same tastes in EVERYTHING.

So this is what you keep missing, we lost this specific taste track along the time, because with technologic evolution we ended up only eating what we want and when we want, making everyone able to develop its own taste.

Here's what you missing, you lost the taste track because it didn't work and wasn't applicable

Yoshi yeah, really messed up with such a huuuuge head. But sonic looks properly build, shoulde be able to run just like a normal human and can punch/kick.

Sonic wins this one.

Tie


*facepalms at Rialspaldacht*

 

[JOE!]

so, both are epic fail?

kk, new MU soon

 

[sinickranger]

Sonic could possibly stand on 4 legs, if not he could lay... he would still have the advantage over Yoshi.

 

[Sieguest]

so, both are epic fail?

kk, new MU soon

pretty much

Yoshi is pretty much immobile
and so is Sonic

both of their body constructions keep anything from happening


@sinickranger- his head his huge and his body flimsy, he isn't going anywhere :O

 

[UncleSam]

Soooo, what weapon does Fox have?
it's facing an electrolaser.

EDIT: 89

 

[tocador]

Fox wins agaisnt zamus with whatever gun he has. It would still **** her.

 

[Kewkky]

Sonic could possibly stand on 4 legs, if not he could lay... he would still have the advantage over Yoshi.

Man, I am loling at this. He can only lay down, can't move... And still he has an advantage!

It's funny cuz it's true, lmao.

 

[xepherthree]

@MU
TIE.
Fox shoots Gatling gun.
Zamus shoots 101 313cTr01a$3r.
Zamus gets filled with bullets.
Fox gets electrocuted.
TIE.

 

[payasofobia]

What did we learn in the Ganon vs Everyone MU?

 

[UncleSam]

What did we learn in the Ganon vs Everyone MU?

Kings usually were fat and lazy OR old and sick on medieval times, so lets just assume ganon is fat and lazy shall we?

No pics, no confirmation, no johns please.

^^^^^
this?

EDIT: 88

 

[JOE!]

whatcha counting down for, sam?

anywho, we learned that range is key

 

[UncleSam]

whatcha counting down for, sam?

anywho, we learned that range is key

posts until I have 2000 on this thread.

87

 

[payasofobia]

God****, japan is so ****ed up.

God****, Gerik and Joshua sure kick ***.

God****, the Wii and anime bubble are burst.

God****, What is it next, Ike vs Link? That's the only FE character Link hasn't fought against.

 

[UncleSam]

God****, japan is so ****ed up.

lolwut?

God****, Gerik and Joshua sure kick ***.

hells yea

(I didnt even quote the 3rd part)

God****, What is it next, Ike vs Link? That's the only FE character Link hasn't fought against.

Probably.

This Ike would Lose. He has no armor.
Vanguard Ike would Probably pull through tho.

EDIT: 86

 

[payasofobia]

We are using a mix of all chars.

We can give Ike his armour...and the axes...and the crossbow.

But only 5 items, because that is the limit of Items FE chars can carry.



http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/11/25/otaku-celebrate-miki-hoshiis-birthday/

This is why Japan is ****ed up.

 

[UncleSam]

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/11/25/otaku-celebrate-miki-hoshiis-birthday/

This is why Japan is ****ed up.

The first few pictures I thought "nah, it's not that crazy"
then I kept scrolling.
why?

EDIT: 85 (I always forget to do this lol)

 

[payasofobia]

Why indeed....

And that's not the worst of it. That is a relatively tame article.

The worst cases are along the lines of : "Man marries his Nintedo DS Lite and holds a large ceremony with the media as guests. He then posts images of him having sex with said DS in 2chan."

 

[UncleSam]

Why indeed....

And that's not the worst of it. That is a relatively tame article.

The worst cases are along the lines of : "Man marries his Nintedo DS Lite and holds a large ceremony with the media as guests. He then posts images of him having sexual intercouse with it in 2chan."

lol that's too funny.
as for Fox vs. Zamus, tie?
k
Ike vs. Link gogogo

84

EDIT: @pic - lolwut?

 

[payasofobia]

They tie for the same reason ASSmus and Fox tied in the FFA: electrothingy takes more time to shoot bullet, but bullet is as fast as light. Microgun fires almost instantly, but the bullets are much slower than light.

Both hit each other at the same time and both die.

 

[payasofobia]

Crossed the line twice. Pic made me laugh my *** off the first time, but then I saw his face.

Feels bad, man....

 

[REL38]

Why indeed....

And that's not the worst of it. That is a relatively tame article.

The worst cases are along the lines of : "Man marries his Nintedo DS Lite and holds a large ceremony with the media as guests. He then posts images of him having sex with said DS in 2chan."

I heard that was just a viral video to up sales.
Pics were probably fake too.


Anyways, wouldn't electrolaser require at least a few seconds of constant stream to kill?
Don't bother giving me an article either.
Cuz I won't read it.

Srsly.

I won't.

 

[UncleSam]

Anyways, wouldn't electrolaser require at least a few seconds of constant stream to kill?

you are thinking of a regular old laser. which is fail, not electrolaser.

Don't bother giving me an article either.
Cuz I won't read it.

Srsly.

I won't.

this is trufax.
like nobody reads in this thread anymore wtf.

83

 

[payasofobia]

What's the matter?

Spoiler

Too scientific for you?

Didn't realize it until now.

9 posts till 2000.

 

[payasofobia]

score x4:
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score x3:


score x2:
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score x1:
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score x0:
, , , , , /:shiek: , , ^

score x-1:
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score x-2:
, , , , , , :mewtwo:

score x-3:


score x-4:
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Just realized something:

score x0:
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, /:shiek: , , ^


score x-2:
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,

:mewtwo:



Two Lucarios?



Anyway, it turns out Ray_Kalm is the best Ganon in America. I didn't know that. Wish I could play him.