Salem
Smash Champion
Hmm...
They can dual wield. XD
Also, Ganon has like electricity gloves, seriously. >_>
I could easily figure out how they can use their magic swords but eh, tech is hard to figure out.
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TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT
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They can dual wield. XD
Also, Ganon has like electricity gloves, seriously. >_>
I could easily figure out how they can use their magic swords but eh, tech is hard to figure out.
payasofobia
Smash Champion
Come on JOE! Give Ike a crossbow. I will forever be....umm....stealthy.
Salem
Smash Champion
payasofobia
Smash Champion
Since Radiant Dawn:
http://serenesforest.net/fe10/bow.html
But....it shows you don't need a weapon level to use them so....maybe he can use them in gameplay?
http://serenesforest.net/fe10/bow.html
But....it shows you don't need a weapon level to use them so....maybe he can use them in gameplay?
JOE!
Smash Hero
he doesnt have a canon...
it was 1) a tank and 2) made of wood, which is both not allowed and not able to work
(well, mythbusters had a wooden canon, but a wooden tank wouldnt work)
anywho, imma take a look at the MU's so far and make a new chart, post it in a little while
EDIT:
did Ike actually have acess to it?
it was 1) a tank and 2) made of wood, which is both not allowed and not able to work
(well, mythbusters had a wooden canon, but a wooden tank wouldnt work)
anywho, imma take a look at the MU's so far and make a new chart, post it in a little while
EDIT:
did Ike actually have acess to it?
payasofobia
Smash Champion
It says you don't need to have any masteries or weapon levels in archery to use the crossbows....so maybe he can?
REL38
Smash Lord
Did he actually use it in-game though?
As part of his arsenal?
If he didn't and it's being given to him anyway, then Ness should be getting Jeff's Bazooka.
Peach should get Geno's handgun.
See where I'm going with this?
payasofobia
Smash Champion
Ike has no arsenal. You give him what you want to give him. Even Ragnell is optional.
No Fire Emblem char has an arsenal. They only have a signature weapon at most.
No Fire Emblem char has an arsenal. They only have a signature weapon at most.
Salem
Smash Champion
Now that I think about it...
How come Ganon can't have three swords? (Winder Waker+Twilight Princess Combo)
How come he can't have bow+arrows either? his moblins do it.
HOW COME GANON CAN'T USE TECH!?
How come Ganon can't have three swords? (Winder Waker+Twilight Princess Combo)
How come he can't have bow+arrows either? his moblins do it.
HOW COME GANON CAN'T USE TECH!?
payasofobia
Smash Champion
I was thinking the same thing. Why not give him all of his swords and trident?
I have never played Radiant Dawn, but I haven't found anything saying Ike can't use a crossbow....so I will assume he can, taking into consideration that crossbows take no archery skill, and only requires being promoted to use.
I have never played Radiant Dawn, but I haven't found anything saying Ike can't use a crossbow....so I will assume he can, taking into consideration that crossbows take no archery skill, and only requires being promoted to use.
Emperor Time
Smash Lord
Ike used Axes and Swords in RD. You couldn't give him crossbows.
That doesn't mean he CAN'T use them, though.
That doesn't mean he CAN'T use them, though.
payasofobia
Smash Champion
Can you give me a link to a reliable source that says Ike can't use crossbows? I can't find any.
★Chaos★
Smash Journeyman
Most fire emblem characters have swords (ike and marth) for a signature weapon
JOE!
Smash Hero
ok, we gotta draw some sort of line here for weaponary:
Ike can have throwing axes, no crossbow tho...it is a bit of a stretch for my tastes (if we do this, we may as well give link a rifle seeing as he *can* use it)
as for why ganon cannot use tech: has he ever been seen in his games to posses any kind of super-tech?
fixed chart coming soon.
Ike can have throwing axes, no crossbow tho...it is a bit of a stretch for my tastes (if we do this, we may as well give link a rifle seeing as he *can* use it)
as for why ganon cannot use tech: has he ever been seen in his games to posses any kind of super-tech?
fixed chart coming soon.
Salem
Smash Champion
Its in the game though.
Link does not have access to such a weapon in his games.
Ike can't use the crossbow due to game mechs however, but this is IRL, he's now able to use it, correct?
*Talks about how Ganon has hidden tech*
I'm pretty sure Ganon has created his own sort of tech, he has electricity "gloves" in brawl, and he has been shown to throw lightning and junk in his games, it can work simply by thinking those simple lines (the red and yellow ones) on his gloves/armor to be wires connected throught his suit to conduct some sort of blast of electricity from the gloves... of course it's probably some sort of one time use thing due to somewhere being a battery (His chest?) but can be helpful for him.
His flying... he probably has like some hover boots using simple stuff like metal and magnets, it's simple... to him.
The dark magic he has is probably the triforce, which doesn't exist in this thread.
And there is no other explantion as to what the dark fire/stuff is so feh. :X
Now if only there was a way to make him cause earthquakes...
JOE!
Smash Hero
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JOE!
Smash Hero
I am sorry but WTF.
He uses MAGIC FOR ALL OF THOSE EFFECTS! (except the punching the ground for earthquakes)
sure, we could logically deduce how he *could* do these things, but in his canon he lacks the equipment to realistically do them...
this is the same argument as saying Mario can jump 15x his height and land safeley, granted we give him a jetpack
Salem
Smash Champion
No, I am explaining how his electricity and floating can be made to be put into IRL.
There is no magic here so... lol, i'm finding a way for him to be able to use such things without magic.
There is no way to make it possible for him to create an earthqauke exept it to be more like a air wave, which would only **** Jigglypuff. XD
But its impossible to throw into the real world.
Edit: I saw that. XD
Mario would be able to do all that if he was not IRL, also... does he actually have a jetpack in his game? explain to me how this is the same as another argument you heard at some time?
Bad Example: Also, Samus is allowed all sorts of tech within her suit holding who knows what which has to be "transformed" IRL for her stuff to properly work, yet... Ganon is not allowed to have any sort?
Samus even gets to have freakin gene mutation, X_X
Gawd.
JOE!
Smash Hero
@tech = magic:
like i said, if he used equipment to pull it off: sure.
however, in his games he uses magic to do so, so we arent gonna give him crap just to let him do the MAGICAL feats in his games.
@genes:
wonder why we are re-disussing ZSS?
like i said, if he used equipment to pull it off: sure.
however, in his games he uses magic to do so, so we arent gonna give him crap just to let him do the MAGICAL feats in his games.
@genes:
wonder why we are re-disussing ZSS?
tocador
Smash Lord
O my god, ganon lost all of them? Jeebuz, what happened when i was away?
Edit: O yeah, and now the rediscussion of zamus x Falcon:
Zamus weapons is BS paralising longe-range gun so small, and it dosent launch the electrifing equipment like ordinary weapons do, its jsut "mistic electricity" that flies throught the air.
So yeah, Zamus weapon is BS, falcon wins :D.
Edit: O yeah, and now the rediscussion of zamus x Falcon:
Zamus weapons is BS paralising longe-range gun so small, and it dosent launch the electrifing equipment like ordinary weapons do, its jsut "mistic electricity" that flies throught the air.
So yeah, Zamus weapon is BS, falcon wins :D.
xepherthree
Smash Ace
Well...
vs Link: JOE proved that the short bow can pierce through the leather + chainmail on his upper legs, and I pointed out that there was a GIANT, GLOWING WOUND on his chest, in addition to the armor stopping at his stomach;. Payas also stated that arrows move 16 m m/s, so with three targets ganon won't know where to block.
vs. Bowser: Just found that Bowser's shell is removable, which allows ganon to be faster than ganon AND he holds hammers in it
vs> Ike: Slow Ganon vs. Fast Ganon. Ike is fast ganon.
Edit:
+1 +1 +1 -1 >>> -1 -1 -1 -1I can't wait till Ray sees this.
xepherthree
Smash Ace
But how would Ganon GET to bowser?
because we all know armor piercing hammers don't pierce armor
Going to go get NSMBW.:D
where'd he get this?
justaway12
Smash Master
>_>
Lucky
ZSS has an elctrolaser, right?
I proved that Capt.Falcon has a laser gun. Which is better :O
Laser uses light amplification, look at it's design:
(well I can't find a pic... hope someone else does), and that requires charge time to obtain enough light and to have it kept on it's target to burn it.
Lasers fail.
side note I found this funny portal pic while looking for captain falcon's pistol:
justaway12
Smash Master
That's his laser, much easiear than trying to find it on google.
Here ya go
you quoted that from the original Falcon vs. ZSS right? then look at the rest of it.
Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation = LASER
if you think lasers = powerful maybe you are thinking of the military experiments where they drain the power of an entire building and amplify it 100x or more to blow up/burn stuff.
a laser gun the size of a pistol can't handle that.
EDIT: also
his laser gun would get blooming, while Samus' wont.
justaway12
Smash Master
I never said they were powerful =/
You just said you wanted a picture...
You just said you wanted a picture...
justaway12
Smash Master
I never said his Laser gun was powerful =/
I asked which is better, this isn't really leading to anything =/
I don't really know anything about guns.
And I guess Mario should have a rematch with Capt.Falcon.
I asked which is better, this isn't really leading to anything =/
I don't really know anything about guns.
And I guess Mario should have a rematch with Capt.Falcon.
I'm yanking your chain.
and you could have added a question mark but w/e.
electrolaser takes advantage of the disadvantage or lasers, blooming.
blooming occurs when the laser strips ions in the air diffusing the beam, however an electrolaser runs electricity through it since the laser becomes ionized through blooming.
and high voltage kills, especially when it's amplified.
hope this answers your question.
and you could have added a question mark but w/e.
electrolaser takes advantage of the disadvantage or lasers, blooming.
blooming occurs when the laser strips ions in the air diffusing the beam, however an electrolaser runs electricity through it since the laser becomes ionized through blooming.
and high voltage kills, especially when it's amplified.
hope this answers your question.
You all disgust me on so many levels.
1. Why would Link consider using a long range weapon in close range?
His only opportunity to use the bow would be when he has space between him and Ganon.
BULL.
2. Why wouldn't Ganon have chainmail on his legs?
Swordsmen slash at anything, and someone as clever as him would know this and come protected.
BULL.
3. Bowser's shell as a weapon?
BULL.
4. Wonder how fast a 13ft monster is...especially if it makes his body vulnerable. Think about it...why shed the armor when it would make you maybe 15mph faster...when in reality it's agility that determines the outcome of the battle...
BULL.
5. How come EVERY Mario character has access to EVERY weapon, yet when we did the spacies we made a distinction between each character's weapons. **** Peach, Mario, Luigi, and Bowser for being able to share weapons. Give Ganon Zelda's crossbow for that matter.
RED BULL.
1. Why would Link consider using a long range weapon in close range?
His only opportunity to use the bow would be when he has space between him and Ganon.
BULL.
2. Why wouldn't Ganon have chainmail on his legs?
Swordsmen slash at anything, and someone as clever as him would know this and come protected.
BULL.
3. Bowser's shell as a weapon?
BULL.
4. Wonder how fast a 13ft monster is...especially if it makes his body vulnerable. Think about it...why shed the armor when it would make you maybe 15mph faster...when in reality it's agility that determines the outcome of the battle...
BULL.
5. How come EVERY Mario character has access to EVERY weapon, yet when we did the spacies we made a distinction between each character's weapons. **** Peach, Mario, Luigi, and Bowser for being able to share weapons. Give Ganon Zelda's crossbow for that matter.
RED BULL.
justaway12
Smash Master
They don't get every other weapon, if have been shown using it then they use it.
That's why Peach doesn't get a hammer.
@US: Yeah
That's why Peach doesn't get a hammer.
@US: Yeah
LOL.
INR? and it's only started happening now too.
"what do we do guys?"
"just give him weapons he'll be fine"
wtf
xepherthree
Smash Ace
1.Because in RL he knows ganon is an 8ft monster of man who could break his arm if they clashed swords. And, Link isn't stationary, as your implying.
2.He can have chainmail. Chainmail isn't plate mail. the arrows can pierce through it.
3. I never said that o.o
4. Bowser is 2600 pounds.. A Rhinoceros, whihc is about half as tall as Bowser , not as wide, or long, weigh generally 3000+ pounds. Bowser is 2600 pounds.
And it doesn't matter if he's vulnerable; the shell hurt him in every way possible, it didn't provide him any help what so ever against the zwei. And you just stated why bowser wins.
5.Just answered it
payasofobia
Smash Champion
1) And he has the space between them. That's how we have always began MUs.
2) Chainmail shirts:
There are chainmail pants, but those would be highly visible, even if they were inside his pants. And chainmail can be broken easily.
3) Bull, I know. But we didn't really pay attention to that argument.
4) Bowser gains agility too because he now can turn around easily and he now has the same speed as Ganon. Also, big guy=more distance covered and more range.
Bowser's advantages: more power and range. Oh, and hammers and bombs.
5)Because it was a FFA where we gave them weapons to make them different from each other. Otherwise, it would have been a gatling vs gatling vs gatling vs electrolaser.
All of them will have access to Microguns from now on. But, I found a flaw in the microgun. It doesn't change the outcome of the FFA, but still, it nerfs Star Fox's Microgun to hell and back.
Anyway, regarding this MU: Captain Falco has failaserz. This MU should stay like it is.
xepherthree
Smash Ace
But didn't we say falcon's gun was more than a magnifying glass vs. wario?
Ah, screw it. I'mma go play NSMBW.
Ah, screw it. I'mma go play NSMBW.
payasofobia
Smash Champion
You bought a glorified DS game ported to the Wii?
lol
(I am just kidding, BTW)
Anyway, what was the mechanics behind the laser?
Anyway, apparently, Ike can use a bowgun as long as he is promoted.
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Bowgun
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Crossbow_(weapon)
lol
(I am just kidding, BTW)
Anyway, what was the mechanics behind the laser?
Anyway, apparently, Ike can use a bowgun as long as he is promoted.
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Bowgun
http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Crossbow_(weapon)
REL38
Smash Lord
lolwut?
Olimar, one of the few characters I even like here, got dropped into Bottom Tier?
D=
Maybe I shoulda ignored college work to defend Olimar in time . . . . meh, not really.
@MU
Zamus has a very small electrolaser in comparison to modern day ones.
Olimar, one of the few characters I even like here, got dropped into Bottom Tier?
D=
Maybe I shoulda ignored college work to defend Olimar in time . . . . meh, not really.
@MU
Zamus has a very small electrolaser in comparison to modern day ones.