adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
I'm gonna say it again, the two characters have incredibly similar abilities and are both at a level of power where both could instant-kill each other if they get in, but also could stop everything their opponent does.
This fight will go nowhere, because by all indications, they're both apocolypic-level psionics, with no way to differentiate them, with all that entails.
500-500.
And you gotta remember that that pk flash is just one barrage.
Actually, place it right (right near the point that the attack originates at) and it will create a massive shadow from a single singularity.
Telekenesis by "Feeling" the local area, and telepathy by mindreading (specifically picking up the concentration).
As far as getting caught, it's a case of the trainer punching out cthulhu.
Actually it's more like, "Did you just stuff Cthulhu in a little ball?" Pokemon sort of created this trope by doing it over and over and over and over again.
As far as the Black Hole goes...
It's just a power thing, it's ability to apply enough force to gather and compress matter enough to make the escape velocity greater then the speed of light.
Yes, Ness is probably capable of doing this as well (just as mewtwo is probably capable of PK flash) because it's a raw power thing, and mewtwo has displayed raw power in spades.
Basically, I THINK charizard has canonically hotter flames then Rapidash, so if Rapidash could do it, so can charizard. Moltres is Canonically more powerful in his element then Charizard so yes, he can melt boulders.
As for Samus, her armor is built specifically to work with it.
In other words, if two pokemon have aproximately the same total stats, the pokemon are about as powerful.
If you know it's gonna be "snake shoots DK, GG", then don't pair those two, pair people that either don't have that issue or we don't know have that issue going in(Peach v Zelda produced a good debate even though it was lopsided, because nobody really knew about Zelda's advantage until I pointed it out, and even then we had to debate it).
"We figured out one is IRL-nerfed" is a good conclusion to a discussion, instead of just changing characters into something they're not or going against the point of the thread.
This fight will go nowhere, because by all indications, they're both apocolypic-level psionics, with no way to differentiate them, with all that entails.
500-500.
Yes. But they only have to last for an instant.
And you gotta remember that that pk flash is just one barrage.
Actually, place it right (right near the point that the attack originates at) and it will create a massive shadow from a single singularity.
Near instantanious, but yes.
yes.
Not collison, compression.
Again, this is one of many options to do it. He'll be able to see it coming fast enough to counter because of his own psionic abilities, specifically telepathy and telekenesis, both of which offer their own "warning system".
Telekenesis by "Feeling" the local area, and telepathy by mindreading (specifically picking up the concentration).
Ummm, no. Psionics is exactly, "you think about it, and it happens". Mewtwo has been displayed in the anime to have the ability to instaniously create massive blasts of energy.
As far as getting caught, it's a case of the trainer punching out cthulhu.
Actually it's more like, "Did you just stuff Cthulhu in a little ball?" Pokemon sort of created this trope by doing it over and over and over and over again.
Ummm, actually light travels in waves, the waves decrease in density (therefore power) as a function of the square of the distance.
Actually, sort of not true. When we're dealing with cases of pure power, if one pokemon can do it, then a pokemon that is more canonically powerful in that element can do it. This only applies in cases where ability to manipulate is not a factor.
As far as the Black Hole goes...
It's just a power thing, it's ability to apply enough force to gather and compress matter enough to make the escape velocity greater then the speed of light.
Yes, Ness is probably capable of doing this as well (just as mewtwo is probably capable of PK flash) because it's a raw power thing, and mewtwo has displayed raw power in spades.
Basically, I THINK charizard has canonically hotter flames then Rapidash, so if Rapidash could do it, so can charizard. Moltres is Canonically more powerful in his element then Charizard so yes, he can melt boulders.
Punching out Cuthulhu.
As for Samus, her armor is built specifically to work with it.
you did not just say that.
*waits for adum to reply to Uffe's post*
Why does everyone always depend on me?
Not quite true, overall stats allow comparisons to other pokemon and give very rough estimates in capabilities compared to others.
In other words, if two pokemon have aproximately the same total stats, the pokemon are about as powerful.
Because other people haven't gotten fed up with all their debate and discussion being for nothing because "Joe ruled x, regardless of what the point of the thread is, and what the actual capabilities of the characters are".
If you know it's gonna be "snake shoots DK, GG", then don't pair those two, pair people that either don't have that issue or we don't know have that issue going in(Peach v Zelda produced a good debate even though it was lopsided, because nobody really knew about Zelda's advantage until I pointed it out, and even then we had to debate it).
"We figured out one is IRL-nerfed" is a good conclusion to a discussion, instead of just changing characters into something they're not or going against the point of the thread.
