TigerWoods
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Maybe sore tendons? You aren't on any medications right now are you?my right elbow and shoulders are starting to hurt when i do push ups :< but it only really hurts while im doing them. should i be concerned at all?
Definitely. Every muscle group except abs should get at least a day between workouts. At least that is conventional wisdom.So I decided to get back into shape by doing some of the work-outs in the OP, but I have a question:
If my muscles are sore the following day of working out, should I wait a day before doing the same work-out?
Um.. ask my wrestling coach. Idk why, but apparently abs need less rest. Probably cause they are so small.why not abs? are they not muslces?
abs are naturally the smallest muscle in your core, and actually dont really do much.
stop and think for a second. when do you actually need strength in your abs? what is the function of the abs? i recommend everyone actually looking into this, because 99% of people in the gym have never even questioned it. abs and core are two very different things.
the primary muscle in your core (and the most important for everyday life and correct body movement) is the TVA (transverse abdominis). it wraps around your mid section in much the same way a weight lifting belt would, and as such, plays a very big role in helping you stand up straight and move around efficiently. that being said, situps or crunches, actually disengage this muscle, and they stretch out the back portion of your TVA, making it weaker. core exercises, like the plank/bridge, on the other hand, engage the TVA fully, and also effect your interior/exterior obliques, and your abs also.
further, an exercise like the squat, while not actually being a core exercise, when done correctly, works your core arguably more than any other exercise in the gym. with a heavy weight on your back, you are required to hold you torso up and not let your back arch outwards; this is all the role of the TVA and other supporting muscles. not to mention, the large amounts of weight being move improve whole body muscle mass, reduce body fat, and teach body coordination and awareness.
that is why i dont do abs.
Don't doubt Shmot!you sir are terribly mistaken
thanks for the vote of confidence, menoDon't doubt Shmot!
*slaps*
Go back to your carrot thread.
Don't doubt Shmot!
*slaps*
Go back to your carrot thread.
thanks for the vote of confidence, meno
unlike most people here, ive actually got certificates in fitness, and am starting a degree in physiotherapy at the start of march. fitness and health is pretty much the focus of my entire life, and as such, i devote myself to the study of it.
further, given that the abs run up the front of your body, and remember that muscles primary work by pulling and tightening (this is fact, muscles themselves cannot push), i cannot see how the abs 'are the core'. they are a rather small of facet of it, actually.
im actually genuinely offended at this. how much do you know about my training program and experience that you can actually say things like that?this is sad. ****ing weight lifters, where are the martial artists in this thread ??? lol
I guess if all you want to do is live in a gym doing bench presses with your fitness certificate abs don't mean much to you, but if your interested in any type of activity that involves moving quickly and developing transfer of power throughout your bodystrong abs are vital
Im actually appalled that you would doubt the importance of abs
im actually genuinely offended at this. how much do you know about my training program and experience that you can actually say things like that?
im a state level sprinter, who also squats 220kgs (almost 3 times my body weight). you think i dont need a strong core to do these things? lol. you think i can support 220kgs of my traps and stand up straight without a strong core? lol. and do you think that supporting that 220kgs on my back doesnt core my entire core and mid section? lol.
that doesnt even make sense. bench press has very little to do with my goals for training, and hence, i will do it once a week at a maximum. heavy leg lifts and sprints, on the other hand, is what im all about. and they involve plenty of core. not much abs, but my core has to be solid as a rock.
dont put me down, or disregard my knowledge without even reading it properly. dont stereotype, or choose popular principle over those that have actually been researched and founded with theory. and dont forget youre posting in a forum where people are actually taking your advice, cause you could really screw them over.
which is just factually incorrect. unless maybe your talking about Rectus abdominus as opposed to the other abdominal muscles , but even then, it is a stupid thing to say and dangerous to spread such misinformationabs are naturally the smallest muscle in your core, and actually dont really do much.
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this is exactly what im talking about, because it also what yourself and others (deliberately or accidentally) have also been referring to.which is just factually incorrect. unless maybe your talking about Rectus abdominus as opposed to the other abdominal muscles , but even then, it is a stupid thing to say and dangerous to spread such misinformation
and when did i ever recommend anyone to train like me?the average smasher is probably not concerned with squatting 3x their bodyweight :I
all four of those are abdominal muscles!!1. Rectus Abdominis
2. Internal Obliques
3. External Obliques
4. Transverse Abdominis
developing abs for organ armor is more of a bonus than anything, the point is that the abs/core are needed for torque and transferring energy throughout your body.Hehehe. I am a black belt in Tae Kwan Do... and Jugfingers... you have to understand that different situations and body types call for different exercises. I for one probably bench more than shmot, since lacrosse demands it.
In addition, I think there is a misunderstanding between "core" and "rectus abdominis" which is understandable considering the two are used pretty much used interchangeably nowadays. Bruce Lee had a VERY strong core(more like EVERYTHING). Also, one of a martial artist's reasons for having "hard abs" was to have a secondary shield from body blows and internal bleeding, which most other athletes do not have to worry about.
Also, prominent rectus abominis sort of just "happen" if all the other core muscles are developed, since working the core essentially works everything around it too...
Exactly. this is not a **** measuring contest so tone down the roid rage both of you.I'm not surprised that egos would pop up in a "gym" thread.
wubz for cao <3I agree in calming down, however, Attila really does win at the Gym and this debate, although I admit to doing ab work to work off my food baby, LOL
I've been lazy for 2 weeks but I getting into the post-holiday season swing again!Cao you better be working out!
AND WHERE IS TEH CHACO???
i lolled. if they arrive in australia, ill drop by to see what theyre about. sounds actually pretty funny. you crazy americans....Have any of heard of Planet Fitness? It's a fitness chain around MI that has some odd practices. Like discouraging body builders from attending by not having anything higher than a certain amount of weight. They also encourage machines over free weights, they purposefully don't have weight scales, the offer tanning beds - and apparently they occasionally offer pizza and beagles...
They also have this thing called a "lunk alarm", which is a loud flashing purple alarm that's a type of public humiliation that goes off if you grunt, drop weights, or "judge."
Sounds ridiculous.
http://www.answerfitness.com/135/planet-fitness-gym-reviews-gym-and/
youre in okinawa? im jealous...I workout 6 times a week.
I'm actually in the gym pumping iron about 3-4 times a week. The other times are basketball, soccer, purely running, and yoga (for teh flexebilityz).
They offer dogs at this fitness place?apparently they occasionally offer pizza and beagles...