Super Smash Bros. Infinite Project (Finally Finished!???)

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

We will be closing down submissions within the hour.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I am doing a last minute submission...

Nathan Drake would be a Mii Costume for all classes. For a Brawler, he just uses his fists. For the Gunner, he wields a pistol. For the Mii Swordfighter, he wields a machete. I was going to submit Kat from Gravity Rush but a Nathan Drake omission seemed almost crimimal.

That being said, here are our list of submissions for the Ratchet and Clank Mii Costume...

Ratchet and Clank mii costume.
CAPTAIN QWARK (Brawler)

This costume would be based on in-universe Superhero, Captain Qwark!
The costume consists of:
Headgear: his Mask (with big chin) that covers the mii face.
Outfit: His green suit. Also the fists are resembling Qwark's fists.

Playstation Mii Costume:
Kratos (Swordfighter)

Kratos is main Protagonist of God of War series. He was a demi-god that liked to slay gods with his weapons. After the time during events of GoW OG Trilogy, he started to take care of his Son, Atreus.
Kratos is one of Iconic Playstation characters and he deserves to be in Smash as Mii.

The costume design is Based on God of War (2018) and it would consist of:
Head Gear: His Beard and Red mark on his head.
Outfit: It would be based on his armor from GoW 2018.
Sword: His leviathan Axe from GoW 2018.

I nominate them, because:
Captain Qwark: He is one of known side characters from the series and he would fit as mii without a doubt.
Kratos: He is one of big 3 character of Sony company and it would be cool if we got him as mii. Also, I used his modern design, because GoW 2018 won the Game Awards of 2018 as best game of year.

I have a question: Is Captain Qwark allowed as Mii?
I mean, we have a superhero Mii Costume, but the Qwark mii is covering whole mii.

Ratchet & Clank Mii Costume:
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Sentry-bot (Mii Brawler):
A model of Blarg robot that Chairman Drek uses for his plans in Ratchet & Clank 2002 and its 2016 reimagining, and what Clank would've been had he not come out "defective". The headgear consists of the triple-antennae head with green eyes from the 2002 appearance while the body is what you see below the head.

Sony Mii Costume:
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Fluted Armor (Demon's Souls) (Mii Swordfighter)
I would've saved a costume like this until we got Chosen Undead, but the fact of the matter is that despite being a FromSoftware game, Demon's Souls is a game whose publishing rights is owned by Sony. There's a reason why they went to making Dark Souls instead of making a Demon's Souls sequel. This game is heavily synonymous with the PlayStation platform, being a PS3 exclusive with the remake being exclusive to PS5.

Anyways, the Fluted Armor is a costume for the Mii Swordfighter, taking after the cover armor suit for the Slayer of Demons.

Ratchet and Clank Mii Costume

The Thief
A Gunner costume, armed with a Blaster style weapon. This mysterious masked figure is a central antagonist in Going Commando. They are secretly Angela Cross, who Rachet has been tricked into going after by the real villians of the game

I just think it's a cool design tbh.

1. Captain Qwark
2. Sentry-Bot
3. The Thief

And for our Sony Playstation costume

Ratchet and Clank mii costume.
CAPTAIN QWARK (Brawler)

This costume would be based on in-universe Superhero, Captain Qwark!
The costume consists of:
Headgear: his Mask (with big chin) that covers the mii face.
Outfit: His green suit. Also the fists are resembling Qwark's fists.

Playstation Mii Costume:
Kratos (Swordfighter)

Kratos is main Protagonist of God of War series. He was a demi-god that liked to slay gods with his weapons. After the time during events of GoW OG Trilogy, he started to take care of his Son, Atreus.
Kratos is one of Iconic Playstation characters and he deserves to be in Smash as Mii.

The costume design is Based on God of War (2018) and it would consist of:
Head Gear: His Beard and Red mark on his head.
Outfit: It would be based on his armor from GoW 2018.
Sword: His leviathan Axe from GoW 2018.

I nominate them, because:
Captain Qwark: He is one of known side characters from the series and he would fit as mii without a doubt.
Kratos: He is one of big 3 character of Sony company and it would be cool if we got him as mii. Also, I used his modern design, because GoW 2018 won the Game Awards of 2018 as best game of year.

I have a question: Is Captain Qwark allowed as Mii?
I mean, we have a superhero Mii Costume, but the Qwark mii is covering whole mii.

Sony mii costume

Sackboy

This would be a "Deluxe" costume and would be for brawler

PaRappa the Rapper (Brawler)

PaRappa's beanie and sleeveless shirt/tank top are included. Alone they are 3D but when combined they flatten your Mii out.

Ratchet & Clank Mii Costume:
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Sentry-bot (Mii Brawler):
A model of Blarg robot that Chairman Drek uses for his plans in Ratchet & Clank 2002 and its 2016 reimagining, and what Clank would've been had he not come out "defective". The headgear consists of the triple-antennae head with green eyes from the 2002 appearance while the body is what you see below the head.

Sony Mii Costume:
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Fluted Armor (Demon's Souls) (Mii Swordfighter)
I would've saved a costume like this until we got Chosen Undead, but the fact of the matter is that despite being a FromSoftware game, Demon's Souls is a game whose publishing rights is owned by Sony. There's a reason why they went to making Dark Souls instead of making a Demon's Souls sequel. This game is heavily synonymous with the PlayStation platform, being a PS3 exclusive with the remake being exclusive to PS5.

Anyways, the Fluted Armor is a costume for the Mii Swordfighter, taking after the cover armor suit for the Slayer of Demons.

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Pipo Moneky (Ape Escape) - Brawler

Kind of like those bear and cat suits but with a big Monkey head with the hat. Would look pretty similar to this:

What is with you and this series

Jak and Daxter
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The main costume is Jak himself, wielding the Morph Gun. Daxter will sit on his right shoulder. The headgear comes with long ears and his hair.
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Sony/PlayStation Mii Costume - Sly Cooper

A deluxe-like costume for Mii Swordfighter () with Sly's whole head alongside a blue cap and black mask as headgear, the shirt with a brown backpack, yellow scarf, blue boots/gloves, a raccoon tail and a belt buckle modeled after the Cooper symbol. The costume also allows a Mii to wield his signature weapon, the trusty Cane.

1. Kratos (God of War)
2. PaRappa the Rapper
3. Jak and Dexter
4. Sackboy (Little Big Planet)
5. Fluted Armor (Demon Souls)
6. Pipo Monkey (Ape Escape)
7. Sly Cooper
8. Nathan Drake


Here are our voting page

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Mii Costume Job: Submit a Third Party Deluxe Mii Costume + Remix Track​

We will be submitting a deluxe Mii costume that comes with a musical track. The costume doesn't have to cover the mii entirely like with Vault Boy but should have a remix. Therefore, it can be of a Sans type of Costume, Bomberman type of Costume, or Shantae type of Costume. Furthermore, the Mii Costume should be from a series that has appeared on both a Nintendo system and a Playstation system. I had considered making it entirely a Mii costume from a Japanese franchise/company but I opted out and saved that for a future job. That being said, this costume must be from a new series not yet in Smash.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Lemming (Swordfighter)

From the Lemmings series of escort-puzzlers, the Lemming would be portrayed as 3-dimensional sprites (think like the pixel Mario and Link amiibo crossed with the Pig/Creeper Mii costumes) with a faceless mask and cel shading to resemble animated sprites. Each Mii Colour would have a unique "sword" based on Lemming skills from the first 2 games, perfect for making an all-purpose Lemming tribe. Balloon Fight's black background contrasted by grass and the tiny size fighters appear on Great Cave Offensive makes them perfect home stages!

1. Red: Floater Umbrella
2. Yellow: A Builder brick stairway
3. Black: Miner Pickaxe
4. White: Basher Hammer
5. Orange: Scooper Shovel
6. Dark Blue: Laser Blaster "Lightsaber"
7. Light Blue: Kayaker Paddle
8. Lime: Spearer Spear
9. Dark Green: Fencer Sword
10. Brown: Club Basher Club
11. Purple: Magic Carpet (rolled up)
12. Pink: Surfer Surfboard

Lemmings is a series owned by Sony, but with prescence on Nintendo consoles thanks to not being created by Sony, just sold to them. As Lemmings debuted on the Amiga, this would also mean Microcomputer rep - even if not the mid-gaming crash rep I'd personally hope for.

It would come with this happy europop-style remix

 

[GolisoPower]

Servant Grunt (Amnesia) (Mii Brawler)
Hailing from the Amnesia series, games on both Nintendo Switch and PlayStation, is the Servant Grunt is one of the enemies that you encounter in the game. Grotesque and able to pop out of nowhere, the Servant Grunt won't stop until the game's amnesiac protagonist Daniel is caugh

For this Mii Costume, the Mii Brawler will gain a Sans-style Mii Costume consisting of three different parts: the gape-mawed headpiece and the stitched-together body. Furthermore, the game will feature a remix of Lux Tenebras, a theme from Amnesia: The Dark Descent.

 

[PastaRorroKuma]

CJ from GTA San Andreas
Now that the GTA trilogy got to the Switch, I think CJ would feat perfectly for this job since especially San Andreas was popular in the PS2.
In terms of the costume itself it could be a costume for all types of Miis, for the brawler the mii could use his bare hands like he does in his game, for the gunner the mii could wield any of his guns in San Andreas, finally, for the swordfighter the mii would use a knife. In all of these forms the mii will wear the shirt and pants of cj alongside getting tatooed arms, for the hat/wig, the mii will get cj's short hair and facial hair.

Now for the music I have a couple of ideas, however the most reasonable it's just using the iconic San Andreas Theme Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VewzN781wQ

 

[Deleted member]

Pyramid Head (Silent Hill) - Mii Swordfighter

The iconic horror monster. I think it would make sense for our costume to be someone strongly associated with the PlayStation. But there are a couple of SH games on Nintendo platforms and old Pyramid Head himself has a number of Nintendo appearances to his name. He'dcome armed with his large blade. The Mii would get that big head of his. He'd come with a remix of Promise.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Tracer (Overwatch)

The mascot of one of the most beloved (for a time) shooter games of all time, Tracer would be a costume for Mii Gunners; giving you her hair and goggles as a head piece and the rest of her outfit as the main outfit. She would come with a brand new remix - "Zero Hour" - The main theme of Overwatch 2, incorporating the iconic Play of the Game theme from the original game. Her outfit would only wield one of her pulse pistols, though.

Zero Hour​

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Big Daddy
Bioshock
All Mii Classes

Big Daddy has the distinction of being the face of the Bioshock franchise even if Bioshock Infinite which didn’t feature Big Daddy. The character is representative of the Bioshock series. As for a Mii Coatume, it completely covers the Mii making it. A legit Mii Costume. As a Gunner, the non-drill hand is the gun while the drill is apart of the sword. As for a remix,

Welcome to Rapture

I am doing a last minute submission...

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Nathan Drake would be a Mii Costume for all classes. For a Brawler, he just uses his fists. For the Gunner, he wields a pistol. For the Mii Swordfighter, he wields a machete. I was going to submit Kat from Gravity Rush but a Nathan Drake omission seemed almost crimimal.

That being said, here are our list of submissions for the Ratchet and Clank Mii Costume...





1. Captain Qwark
2. Sentry-Bot
3. The Thief

And for our Sony Playstation costume









1. Kratos (God of War)
2. PaRappa the Rapper
3. Jak and Dexter
4. Sackboy (Little Big Planet)
5. Fluted Armor (Demon Souls)
6. Pipo Monkey (Ape Escape)
7. Sly Cooper
8. Nathan Drake


Here are our voting page

Remember To vote!

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Here are the results of our voting for a Ratchet and Clank and Playstation Mii Costume!

Name	Points
Qwark	8
Sentry-bot	3
The Thief	1

Name	3 Points	2 Points	1 Point	Total
Kratos	3 (9)	2 (4)	0	13
PaRappa the Rapper	1 (3)	0	3	6
Jak and Dexter	1 (3)	0	4	7
Sack Boy	2 (6)	5 (10)	1	17
Fluted Armor	0	1 (2)	0	2
Pipo Monkey	3 (9)	1 (2)	1	12
Sly Cooper	2 (6)	2 (4)	1	11
Nathan Drake	0	1 (2)	2	4

I feel like our top three submissions are representative of Sony both in the realm of "popular", "iconic" and, "unique". I do question the Pipo Monkey over the likes of characters like Jak, PaRappa, and Nathan but it is what it and Ape Escape is a fan favorite for those who follow the series.

That being said, here are our Mii Costumes...

Qwark (Mii Brawler)
Kratos (Mii Swordfighter)
Sackboy (Mii Brawler)
Pipo Monkey (Brawler)

In addition, we will be adding a veteran Mii Costume. I will be posting which veteran costumes we will be voting from. This is based on our voting we did previously on which costumes we want to see return as Mii Costumes and ones we want to save from possibly being Mii Costumized. To my recollection, Dante, Doom Guy, etc were saved from becoming Mii Costumed. The options will be above in a poll and were chosen based on their history with Playstation.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Thank you to everyone who submitted and voted! We had some amazing submissions from across Playstation history! We will be winding down our Mii Costume submissions, from here on we will be doing two jobs.

Submit Ratrchet & Clank SmashSpace Content​

We will be adding content to add to SmashSpace that is from the Ratchet and Clank series. Please go to the front page and Game Modes to fnd out more about SmashSpace content and what this entails! Please include the name of the item, what category it falls in, and what its purpose or function is. As a refresher, some items includes wallpaper, flooring, furniture, models, dolls, special, etc.

Submit a Name for the Ratchet & Clank DLC Bundle​

As per usual, we will be naming this bundle pass to give it some extra flair rather than Fighter's Pack 5. Previous names were "Smash is the Chamoions" and "A Smashing Turnabout". My big issue in previous bundles is we overused the name "Smash". Of our four bundles, three of them had Smash in the title. To avoid stagnation, we can't have "Smash" in the title of the Ratchet & Clank bundle.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

"Live in Our World, Play in Their's"

A reversed take on PlayStation's current slogan - a way of alluding to this being a taster - demo if you will - to encourage Nintendo players to pick up a PS console after seeing what the Ratchet world has to offer in a non-canon setting.

 

[chocolatejr9]

Y'know how Ratchet and Clank games like to slip in adult jokes in the titles sometimes (i.e. "Up Your Arsenal")? I wonder if we can get away with that...

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I almost forgot but there are our submissions for the Deluxe costume

Lemming (Swordfighter)

From the Lemmings series of escort-puzzlers, the Lemming would be portrayed as 3-dimensional sprites (think like the pixel Mario and Link amiibo crossed with the Pig/Creeper Mii costumes) with a faceless mask and cel shading to resemble animated sprites. Each Mii Colour would have a unique "sword" based on Lemming skills from the first 2 games, perfect for making an all-purpose Lemming tribe. Balloon Fight's black background contrasted by grass and the tiny size fighters appear on Great Cave Offensive makes them perfect home stages!

1. Red: Floater Umbrella
2. Yellow: A Builder brick stairway
3. Black: Miner Pickaxe
4. White: Basher Hammer
5. Orange: Scooper Shovel
6. Dark Blue: Laser Blaster "Lightsaber"
7. Light Blue: Kayaker Paddle
8. Lime: Spearer Spear
9. Dark Green: Fencer Sword
10. Brown: Club Basher Club
11. Purple: Magic Carpet (rolled up)
12. Pink: Surfer Surfboard

Lemmings is a series owned by Sony, but with prescence on Nintendo consoles thanks to not being created by Sony, just sold to them. As Lemmings debuted on the Amiga, this would also mean Microcomputer rep - even if not the mid-gaming crash rep I'd personally hope for.

It would come with this happy europop-style remix

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Servant Grunt (Amnesia) (Mii Brawler)
Hailing from the Amnesia series, games on both Nintendo Switch and PlayStation, is the Servant Grunt is one of the enemies that you encounter in the game. Grotesque and able to pop out of nowhere, the Servant Grunt won't stop until the game's amnesiac protagonist Daniel is caugh

For this Mii Costume, the Mii Brawler will gain a Sans-style Mii Costume consisting of three different parts: the gape-mawed headpiece and the stitched-together body. Furthermore, the game will feature a remix of Lux Tenebras, a theme from Amnesia: The Dark Descent.

CJ from GTA San Andreas
Now that the GTA trilogy got to the Switch, I think CJ would feat perfectly for this job since especially San Andreas was popular in the PS2.
In terms of the costume itself it could be a costume for all types of Miis, for the brawler the mii could use his bare hands like he does in his game, for the gunner the mii could wield any of his guns in San Andreas, finally, for the swordfighter the mii would use a knife. In all of these forms the mii will wear the shirt and pants of cj alongside getting tatooed arms, for the hat/wig, the mii will get cj's short hair and facial hair.

Now for the music I have a couple of ideas, however the most reasonable it's just using the iconic San Andreas Theme Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VewzN781wQ

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Pyramid Head (Silent Hill) - Mii Swordfighter

The iconic horror monster. I think it would make sense for our costume to be someone strongly associated with the PlayStation. But there are a couple of SH games on Nintendo platforms and old Pyramid Head himself has a number of Nintendo appearances to his name. He'dcome armed with his large blade. The Mii would get that big head of his. He'd come with a remix of Promise.

Tracer (Overwatch)
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The mascot of one of the most beloved (for a time) shooter games of all time, Tracer would be a costume for Mii Gunners; giving you her hair and goggles as a head piece and the rest of her outfit as the main outfit. She would come with a brand new remix - "Zero Hour" - The main theme of Overwatch 2, incorporating the iconic Play of the Game theme from the original game. Her outfit would only wield one of her pulse pistols, though.

Zero Hour​

Big Daddy
Bioshock
All Mii Classes

Big Daddy has the distinction of being the face of the Bioshock franchise even if Bioshock Infinite which didn’t feature Big Daddy. The character is representative of the Bioshock series. As for a Mii Coatume, it completely covers the Mii making it. A legit Mii Costume. As a Gunner, the non-drill hand is the gun while the drill is apart of the sword. As for a remix,

Welcome to Rapture



Remember To vote!

• Lemmings (Swordfighter)
• Servant Grunt (Brawler)
• CJ (All classes)
• Pyramid Head (Swordfighter ) <- NOOOOO I was really hoping we could include playable PH lol
• Tracer (Gunner)
• Big Daddy (All classes)

PLEASE VOTE HERE

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

IMO CJ should be playable and we should find a less potentially sensitive rep for Silent Hill

 

[Deleted member]

IMO CJ should be playable and we should find a less potentially sensitive rep for Silent Hill

What do you mean potentially sensitive

 

[Yiptap]

IMO CJ should be playable and we should find a less potentially sensitive rep for Silent Hill

May I ask how Pyramid Head would be sensitive?

 

[Deleted member]

Ah yes my favourite character who has never been taken non seriously

I understand the "it's James's personal monster" thing and what it represents but honestly I don't see including Pyramid Head being any different than including the likes of Leatherface or Pennywise in a MK game.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I'm against Silent Hill getting any reps at all. We already have the quintessential horror rep of "guy with a gun" in Leon, and for once I agree with W3. Whether or not Konami treats him like that, I feel like including him in the same game as Kirby, Minecraft, and Sora would be a bit crossing the lines of good graces.

That said, it's for the exact same reason I don't think GTA should get a rep at all. For as big and influential as it is, I feel like a game that openly deals with drugs, murder, theft, assault, and prostitution isn't exactly friendly enough to put in the game with the aforementioned characters. And it's not like they hide this kind of stuff in GTA; it's kind of all about indulging in the fantasy of being just that awful of a human being without actually doing it.

 

[GolisoPower]

SmashScape Item:

Gadgetron Terminal:
A large block taking up 1 unit of space in your SmashScape. When interacting with this item, the Gadgetron Terminal will reveal one of the many weapons in the Ratchet & Clank franchise, ranging from the Warmonger to the Bouncer to the RYNO itself to basic Combuster.

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As for the name, I suggest we call it the "Rip You A New One" Bundle, after what RYNO is abbreviated for: "Rip You a New One."

 

[Champion of Hyrule]

The “it can’t have smash in the name” rule is the only thing stopping me from submitting “Sony Wants To Smash” as the pack name to continue the tradition of ratchet and clank games having dirty innuendos as titles

 

[Commander_Alph]

Felt like I don't agree the people who's saying we can't have X in Y because X didn't fit in Y. For all intents and purposes I just can't see it, maybe I'm just a really open person especially in a fighting game where representation of certain series is very limiting to the point where a walking innuendos isn't that out of place alongside a little girl's favorite princess.

 

[cashregister9]

I don't want Pyramid head in a smash game because Robbie the Rabbit would be funnier.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Felt like I don't agree the people who's saying we can't have X in Y because X didn't fit in Y. For all intents and purposes I just can't see it, maybe I'm just a really open person especially in a fighting game where representation of certain series is very limiting to the point where a walking innuendos isn't that out of place alongside a little girl's favorite princess.

Boiling Bayonetta down to just a walking innuendo is hugely disrespectful to her character. The lewd stuff isn't even super present or upfront in Bayonetta except for during the summoning scenes.


Whereas how you gonna do a GTA stage faithfully that isn't full of liquor stores, drive by shootings, and women selling their services on the side of the road. Again, it's literally a series about indulging in vice.

 

[Commander_Alph]

Whereas how you gonna do a GTA stage faithfully that isn't full of liquor stores, drive by shootings, and women selling their services on the side of the road. Again, it's literally a series about indulging in vice.

Um.. if you ever play GTA then you know that something like a liquor store, strip club and violence didn't always takes places 2 blocks down the street, in all else the place you are in is mundane before the player cause some anarchy.

Like seriously, I could pick Los Santos as the stage for GTA and I could pick any place doesn't have a strip club near by (which thankfully is fairly secluded) that is iconic among players like Vespucci beach, Vinewood Boulevard or the damn military base if you're crazy enough.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Honestly, the idea of a hulking, lumbering character who has superarmor but is super slow with tons of windup attacks that has a wide hitbox seems just super fun to include. We added two Horror protags, I would love to see a Horror villain get repped as well.

 

[tonygameman]

Honestly, the idea of a hulking, lumbering character who has superarmor but is super slow with tons of windup attacks that has a wide hitbox seems just super fun to include. We added two Horror protags, I would love to see a Horror villain get repped as well.

My little sister is a big fan of Silent Hill, so I'll appreciate this. Mira definitely deserves a Legend-class spirit.

Overall said, another Konami fighter would be great. 'Nuff said. (if only Bomberman and Goemon weren't deconfirmed... Konami vs Capcom self-promotion)

Or maybe we'll go for something more older and unexpected because of legacy, which was also created by a lesser-known/dead Japanese developer one year before Resident Evil, with Capcom having been involved in one game, which then inspired Haunting Ground.

(in Stinky Pete's voice) As there's only two words: "snip, snip".

 

[Janx_uwu]

Hey all, janx here
CJ is fairly iconic and not inherently too mature for Smash on his own, and there's a precedent for games in smash that openly deal with drugs, sex, sexual assault, alcoholic beverages, theft, murder, etc (Persona and dark ages/Archie comics Sonic come to mind), but I'd rather have this debate when someone inevitably submits CJ as a fighter.
Pyramid Head would be a fun character but I understand the concern for his inclusion. Then again, I'm the guy who wants a FNAF animatronic in Smash despite them being mechanical bodies for the souls of murdered children, so what do I know? I'll wait until the results are up on the Mii Costume voting (which I still have yet to vote for) so that way if the thread is still divided I can offer up my own viewpoints on it

 

[GolisoPower]

Wasn't PH's designer alright with crossovers tho? I think I remember a post in the Social Thread saying he was alright with it around the time that the Silent Hill chapter was announced for Dead by Daylight, and he even congratulated Behaviour over it. That's like a Library of Congress's worth of Smashboards posts to sift through, but I explicitly remember that.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Hey all, janx here
CJ is fairly iconic and not inherently too mature for Smash on his own, and there's a precedent for games in smash that openly deal with drugs, sex, sexual assault, alcoholic beverages, theft, murder, etc (Persona and dark ages/Archie comics Sonic come to mind), but I'd rather have this debate when someone inevitably submits CJ as a fighter.
Pyramid Head would be a fun character but I understand the concern for his inclusion. Then again, I'm the guy who wants a FNAF animatronic in Smash despite them being mechanical bodies for the souls of murdered children, so what do I know? I'll wait until the results are up on the Mii Costume voting (which I still have yet to vote for) so that way if the thread is still divided I can offer up my own viewpoints on it

The difference between Persona and GTA in this regard is that Persona makes it very clear that those places are terrible and does not allow the protagonists to partake in them, where as GTA makes it part of the everyday experience. It's "normal" there.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I do want to say that a Mii Costume not getting voted in this round doesn't mean they are a shoe-in for being added into the game lol. I just commented I have always wanted Pyramid Head in Smash cause he's a hulking brute with superarmor and wide hitting attacks. This is coming from someone who has never touched Silent Hill by the way. I also feel the same way about 2B, Heavy, Ahri, Lara Croft, etc

 

[GolisoPower]

As far as aesthetic goes (completely ignoring story at the moment), honestly, the darkest we have in canon Smash are, ironically enough, from Konami: Metal Gear has a grungy realistic aesthetic if you're willing to ignore the giant robots and the genetics hubbub and its wacky story, and it explores extremely mature themes like war and politics. Castlevania? The realistic-gothic aesthetic is arguably one of the most out-of-pocket aesthetics that we have in Smash, but I mean it endearingly. If you look into the Castlevania series proper, you'll find blood, violence, suggestive themes and the like.

In Smash Infinite proper, we have Resident Evil, which is body horror galore and no shortage of blood and violence and genuinely disturbing moments (That "baby" in House Benevento is one such example), and Hades, which behind those poppy colors and stylized designs, is the most accurate representation of the big ****ed-up family that is the Greek pantheon, and explores a pretty heavy aspect of family. Hades's own treatment of Zagreus, if you think about it, is also a healthy dose of child abuse, too.

I do want to say that a Mii Costume not getting voted in this round doesn't mean they are a shoe-in for being added into the game lol. I just commented I have always wanted Pyramid Head in Smash cause he's a hulking brute with superarmor and wide hitting attacks.

Why stop there? We could make him represent the psychological horror aspect of SH by giving him the ability to use stackable debuffs (with a cap of course) to make it look like he's weighing a fighters sins on them.

Speaking of, I've been hit hard with a stroke of inspiration: James & Pyramid Head as a Rosalina-style character. It honors the SH2 story, and could set James apart from being just "another gun-toting horror protag". How the moveset would work proper, I have no clue.

 

[chocolatejr9]

As far as aesthetic goes (completely ignoring story at the moment), honestly, the darkest we have in canon Smash are, ironically enough, from Konami: Metal Gear has a grungy realistic aesthetic if you're willing to ignore the giant robots and the genetics hubbub and its wacky story, and it explores extremely mature themes like war and politics. Castlevania? The realistic-gothic aesthetic is arguably one of the most out-of-pocket aesthetics that we have in Smash, but I mean it endearingly. If you look into the Castlevania series proper, you'll find blood, violence, suggestive themes and the like.

In Smash Infinite proper, we have Resident Evil, which is body horror galore and no shortage of blood and violence and genuinely disturbing moments (That "baby" in House Benevento is one such example), and Hades, which behind those poppy colors and stylized designs, is the most accurate representation of the big ****ed-up family that is the Greek pantheon, and explores a pretty heavy aspect of family. Hades's own treatment of Zagreus, if you think about it, is also a healthy dose of child abuse, too.



Why stop there? We could make him represent the psychological horror aspect of SH by giving him the ability to use stackable debuffs (with a cap of course) to make it look like he's weighing a fighters sins on them.

Speaking of, I've been hit hard with a stroke of inspiration: James & Pyramid Head as a Rosalina-style character. It honors the SH2 story, and could set James apart from being just "another gun-toting horror protag". How the moveset would work proper, I have no clue.

Maybe James plays like a normal horror protag, but he summons PH for certain attacks?

 

[GolisoPower]

Maybe James plays like a normal horror protag, but he summons PH for certain attacks?

I was thinking more of a sort of "reverse Rosalina" kind of situation, in which PH is a "hurt everything in your path" minion who is constantly pursuing James.

 

[chocolatejr9]

I was thinking more of a sort of "reverse Rosalina" kind of situation, in which PH is a "hurt everything in your path" minion who is constantly pursuing James.

Admittedly, my idea was more along the lines of Joker: the more James gets hurt, the more his sins pile up (represented by a meter), until PH shows up and ruins your day.

 

[Janx_uwu]

I was thinking more of a sort of "reverse Rosalina" kind of situation, in which PH is a "hurt everything in your path" minion who is constantly pursuing James.

I'm fine with including James or PH independently but putting them together, yeah that's a bit too on the nose I think.
However, if we weren't worrying about the moral implications of including anyone I would so be down for this, James and PH would be kind of like Tom and Jerry in MultiVersus.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

As someone who is sickened by the mere thought of Pyramid Head, I think that the concept of that is frankly disturbing and ****ed up.

 

[chocolatejr9]

As someone who is sickened by the mere thought of Pyramid Head, I think that the concept of that is frankly disturbing and ****ed up.

Which one? We gave three.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Which one? We gave three.

Including Pyramid Head in any capacity, let alone using him as a Luma/Arsene/Nana standin.

Not to mention he's constantly covered in blood.

And on top of that, the director of Silent Hill 2 hates that Konami uses him like they do, saying it's missing the point of the character. If we want to be true to the character, including him would be a problem, not even mentioning the panning the game would get from parents if he was included. He's overtly too violent and gross of a character to be included in this.

Playstation All-Stars? Sure. But here? No. Not appropriate. Same with a GTA protagonist.

 

[PastaRorroKuma]

But wasn't PH's blood censored in every crossover he is involved? also, parents could be angry at literally 90% of characters in Smash