Super Smash Bros. Infinite Beyond

[Mushroomguy12]

Pauline (Mario)

Pauline is one of the first three characters of the Mario series alongside Mario and DK, and has enjoyed a recent revival during the Switch era, appearing in numerous Mario Spinoffs, quickly becoming the Rosalina of the generation. She would be a massive addition considering her widespread history in the series and an excellent choice for the festival. She could have a very unique moveset involving the bonneter species and other Odyssey moves, similar to Rosalina having Galaxy moves.

 

[darkvortex]

Champions
If this ain't allowed please tell me. This would be a 4 in one character, similar to Pokemon Trainer. You'd switch between the four champions with their down special. They'd each have their own strengths and weaknesses so khaki g when to swap them out would be key here. Daruk is slow but strong, Urbosa is quick and good at close combat, Ravali is good for recovery and Mipha is good for keeping your foes away. I think Zelda is due a new character and I think the BOTW games are huge and worth repping and this would be a really unexpected addtion. If this is seen as cheating I will gladly replace it.

 

[sal ig]

First-party newcomer submission -
Black night (fire emblem)

Black night would be a slow heavyweight swordfighter but would hit really hard as a tradeoff, to help black night with camping and zoning his range would be longer and cover a bigger radius than most other swordfighters but much slower framedata, you could also give him the projectile he uses in combat in his games and maybe even a variation of tough guy

 

[ssbashworld]

Elma (Xenoblade X)

Dont have much to say since i havent played her game but think she seems like a cool character. Does seem to still come up from time to time from a loyal fanbase & would be nice to have a rep from all Xenoblade games. Also might be good to finally give fans of X something decently big outside the Wii U even if we have no control over it finally being ported.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Elma (Xenoblade X)

Dont have much to say since i havent played her game but think she seems like a cool character. Does seem to still come up from time to time from a loyal fanbase & would be nice to have a rep from all Xenoblade games. Also might be good to finally give fans of X something decently big outside the Wii U even if we have no control over it finally being ported.

Gah my candidate got taken!

The Guardian Blasts Away the Competition!
Zelda

I initially was against this idea waaaaaay back during early Infinite when it got submitted but, as I thought of the idea, I felt it would be a fun and interesting pick as both a character and also as a submission process. I was torn from not including Master Kohga; especially given the character's prominence in the series but considering we already have two characters with "Master" in it; I don't want to include yet another that has Master in it.

In terms of moveset content, the character would incorporate its use of beams also also other weaponry commonly found amongst Gaurdian-like constructs. One concept that solidified my stance on this character was a Side Special which is a rush-attack that follows a set path but hitting backward while in mid-rush not only allows the character to aim backward and use the Special attack to fire a Guardian Laser but also to pivot to face the opponent. Another concept is to have the Gaurdian Laser attack have two stances: Roaming and Sentry. Sentry allows the Guardian to dig into the ground to steady itself and fire lasers. While not mobile, it extensively increases its launch resistance.

In terms of other attacks, we could get creative with the moveset submission process as, typically, dashing and blasting it all it does.

 

[TheMicRula]

Damn, I was late for Mii Costume submissions.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

We will be closing submissions in a little bit.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Here are our lost of submissions. Is this everyone?

My submission: Fawful (Mario and Luigi)

Debuting in Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, Fawful is one of the main villains in this game.

The reasons why him? Fawful was part of my childhood, when I played Mario and Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story. Plus having at least 1 new Mario rep in smash is inevitable. Also he is a villain, and we could use more villains in smash.

Rambi the Rhino breaks through!

Iconic yet overlooked, DK's loyal steed is a classic character and one of the most consistent characters in the DK franchise. A tough, horned quadruped (with a dog-like soft side), Rambi would be a fast but powerful ultraheavyweight, good at breaking defenses, who suffers from poor range, with his horn being non-opposable and his legs being stubby. Perhaps Rambi could be the second character to use the Cargo Throw, allowing him to take his opponents on a wild ride, whether they like it or not!

SHY GUY
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Shy Guys are recurring enemies in the Yoshi's Island series, known for their diminutive statures and iconic masks. Much like Piranha Plant, Shy Guy is a mook character with countless variations and ways to make them stand out. Now despite this being majorly a Mario enemy, I'm submitting this as a Yoshi character due to it's greater prominence there.

Alear

The Divine Dragon and Lord of Fire Emblem Engage.

Yes, Alear would primarily use a sword but with Alear they could also bring Emblems, Summons of past Fire Emblem characters that can Engage with Alear and fuse their powers together. Alear is also commonly depicted with Fist attacks

Which could also be integrated into their gameplay.

I feel these additions could make Alear feel fresh in this roster.

1st Party Newcomer: Skull Kid (The Legend of Zelda)

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Skull Kid is a reocurring character from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, he is an creature who lives in the lost woods,also he is posessed by the majora's mask who himself stole.

Skull Kid is a very popular Zelda character from the series,Skull Kid is in Smash 4 but as an assist trophy and he appears in the crossover of The Legend of Zelda with Cript of The Necromancer,he can be one more of those assist trophies who went promoted to be playable.

Resubmitting Toad (Mario)

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Primid
So this may be a stretch, but here me out, Smash Bros is technically a franchise repped in the Smash Bros franchise, and of Primid is an iconic Smash original character. After wrapping your head around that statement let me tell you that Primid would actually be a good choice as a playable fighter in Smash Infinite, they would be a composite character comprising not only the Primid enemy type but also the entire Subspace Emissary story mode, which I think is a cool hook for a fighter concept. It's an odd choice sure, but one I think could work in the context of this thread. If its not allowed, I totally understand, but its worth a shot asking.

Resubitting:

Paper Mario joins the fold!

Paper Mario is the most prominent and longest-running Mario RPG series, even receiving a remake this year of The Thousand Year Door. Despite appearances, Paper Mario would play very differently from Mario. Possible things that could be incorporated are his hammer, partners, a timed attack mechanic, and various paper-themed attacks, pulled from games across the series. Overall, I just think he'd be a fun and exciting pick for Smash.

Pauline (Mario)

Pauline is one of the first three characters of the Mario series alongside Mario and DK, and has enjoyed a recent revival during the Switch era, appearing in numerous Mario Spinoffs, quickly becoming the Rosalina of the generation. She would be a massive addition considering her widespread history in the series and an excellent choice for the festival. She could have a very unique moveset involving the bonneter species and other Odyssey moves, similar to Rosalina having Galaxy moves.

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Champions
If this ain't allowed please tell me. This would be a 4 in one character, similar to Pokemon Trainer. You'd switch between the four champions with their down special. They'd each have their own strengths and weaknesses so khaki g when to swap them out would be key here. Daruk is slow but strong, Urbosa is quick and good at close combat, Ravali is good for recovery and Mipha is good for keeping your foes away. I think Zelda is due a new character and I think the BOTW games are huge and worth repping and this would be a really unexpected addtion. If this is seen as cheating I will gladly replace it.

First-party newcomer submission -
Black night (fire emblem)
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Black night would be a slow heavyweight swordfighter but would hit really hard as a tradeoff, to help black night with camping and zoning his range would be longer and cover a bigger radius than most other swordfighters but much slower framedata, you could also give him the projectile he uses in combat in his games and maybe even a variation of tough guy

Elma (Xenoblade X)

Dont have much to say since i havent played her game but think she seems like a cool character. Does seem to still come up from time to time from a loyal fanbase & would be nice to have a rep from all Xenoblade games. Also might be good to finally give fans of X something decently big outside the Wii U even if we have no control over it finally being ported.

Gah my candidate got taken!

The Guardian Blasts Away the Competition!
Zelda

I initially was against this idea waaaaaay back during early Infinite when it got submitted but, as I thought of the idea, I felt it would be a fun and interesting pick as both a character and also as a submission process. I was torn from not including Master Kohga; especially given the character's prominence in the series but considering we already have two characters with "Master" in it; I don't want to include yet another that has Master in it.

In terms of moveset content, the character would incorporate its use of beams also also other weaponry commonly found amongst Gaurdian-like constructs. One concept that solidified my stance on this character was a Side Special which is a rush-attack that follows a set path but hitting backward while in mid-rush not only allows the character to aim backward and use the Special attack to fire a Guardian Laser but also to pivot to face the opponent. Another concept is to have the Gaurdian Laser attack have two stances: Roaming and Sentry. Sentry allows the Guardian to dig into the ground to steady itself and fire lasers. While not mobile, it extensively increases its launch resistance.

In terms of other attacks, we could get creative with the moveset submission process as, typically, dashing and blasting it all it does.

• Fawful
• Rambi
• Shy Guy
• Alear
• Skull Kid
• Toad
• Primid
• Paper Mario
• Pauline
• Champions
• Elma
• Black Knight
• Guardian

 

[darkvortex]

Is there a voting link?

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Is there a voting link?

I was making sure I had gotten everyone. I was busy doing something else at the time.

Here are our results of the Mii Costume voting!

Name	4 Points	3 Points	2 Points	1 Point	Total
Matthew Mii Swordfighter	1 (5)	3()9	0	2	16
Jody Summers Brawler	2 (10)	1 (3)	3 (6)	3	22
Rover Mii Gunner	1 (5)	2 (6)	2 (4)	2	15
Andy Mii Swordfighter	3 (12)	2 (6)	2 (4)	0	22
Panther Mii Brawler	0	0	2 (4)	0	4
Tharja Mii Mage	3 (8)	2 (6)	1 (2)	3	23

We will be including Tharja as a Mii Costume followed by both Jody Summers of F-Zero and Andy of Advanced Wars. I decided to not utilize a tiebreaker due to the legitimacy of including multiple first-party Mii Costumes.

Name	5 Points	4 Points	3 Points	2 Points	1 Point	Total
Oersted Mii Swordfighter	0	2 (8)	1 (3	1 (2)	0	13
Overcooked Chefs Mii Fighters	1 (5)	2 (8)	1 (3)	1 (2)	2	20
Bubsy Mii Brawler	3 (15)	0	1 (3)	1 (2)	4	24
Pete Mii Swordfighter	0	1 (4)	1 (3)	2 (4)	2	13
The Prince of Persia Mii Swordfighter	3 (15)	1 (4)	2 (6)	2 (4)	1	30
Sam Fisher Mii Gunner	1 (5)	2 (8)	3 (9)	2 (4)	0	26
Mars Person Mii Gunner	2 (10)	2 (8)	1 (3)	1 (2)	1	24

That being said, we will be doing a run-off poll as Sam Fisher is within a 5 point striking range of the top character, Prince of Persia. This will be conducted at the top of the thread.

Finally, here are our submissions for our Newcomer!!

My submission: Fawful (Mario and Luigi)

Debuting in Mario and Luigi Superstar Saga, Fawful is one of the main villains in this game.

The reasons why him? Fawful was part of my childhood, when I played Mario and Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story. Plus having at least 1 new Mario rep in smash is inevitable. Also he is a villain, and we could use more villains in smash.

Rambi the Rhino breaks through!

Iconic yet overlooked, DK's loyal steed is a classic character and one of the most consistent characters in the DK franchise. A tough, horned quadruped (with a dog-like soft side), Rambi would be a fast but powerful ultraheavyweight, good at breaking defenses, who suffers from poor range, with his horn being non-opposable and his legs being stubby. Perhaps Rambi could be the second character to use the Cargo Throw, allowing him to take his opponents on a wild ride, whether they like it or not!

SHY GUY
View attachment 383125​

Shy Guys are recurring enemies in the Yoshi's Island series, known for their diminutive statures and iconic masks. Much like Piranha Plant, Shy Guy is a mook character with countless variations and ways to make them stand out. Now despite this being majorly a Mario enemy, I'm submitting this as a Yoshi character due to it's greater prominence there.

Alear

The Divine Dragon and Lord of Fire Emblem Engage.

Yes, Alear would primarily use a sword but with Alear they could also bring Emblems, Summons of past Fire Emblem characters that can Engage with Alear and fuse their powers together. Alear is also commonly depicted with Fist attacks

Which could also be integrated into their gameplay.

I feel these additions could make Alear feel fresh in this roster.

1st Party Newcomer: Skull Kid (The Legend of Zelda)

View attachment 383136

Skull Kid is a reocurring character from The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask, he is an creature who lives in the lost woods,also he is posessed by the majora's mask who himself stole.

Skull Kid is a very popular Zelda character from the series,Skull Kid is in Smash 4 but as an assist trophy and he appears in the crossover of The Legend of Zelda with Cript of The Necromancer,he can be one more of those assist trophies who went promoted to be playable.

Resubmitting Toad (Mario)

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Primid
So this may be a stretch, but here me out, Smash Bros is technically a franchise repped in the Smash Bros franchise, and of Primid is an iconic Smash original character. After wrapping your head around that statement let me tell you that Primid would actually be a good choice as a playable fighter in Smash Infinite, they would be a composite character comprising not only the Primid enemy type but also the entire Subspace Emissary story mode, which I think is a cool hook for a fighter concept. It's an odd choice sure, but one I think could work in the context of this thread. If its not allowed, I totally understand, but its worth a shot asking.

Resubitting:

Paper Mario joins the fold!

Paper Mario is the most prominent and longest-running Mario RPG series, even receiving a remake this year of The Thousand Year Door. Despite appearances, Paper Mario would play very differently from Mario. Possible things that could be incorporated are his hammer, partners, a timed attack mechanic, and various paper-themed attacks, pulled from games across the series. Overall, I just think he'd be a fun and exciting pick for Smash.

Pauline (Mario)

Pauline is one of the first three characters of the Mario series alongside Mario and DK, and has enjoyed a recent revival during the Switch era, appearing in numerous Mario Spinoffs, quickly becoming the Rosalina of the generation. She would be a massive addition considering her widespread history in the series and an excellent choice for the festival. She could have a very unique moveset involving the bonneter species and other Odyssey moves, similar to Rosalina having Galaxy moves.

View attachment 383155
Champions
If this ain't allowed please tell me. This would be a 4 in one character, similar to Pokemon Trainer. You'd switch between the four champions with their down special. They'd each have their own strengths and weaknesses so khaki g when to swap them out would be key here. Daruk is slow but strong, Urbosa is quick and good at close combat, Ravali is good for recovery and Mipha is good for keeping your foes away. I think Zelda is due a new character and I think the BOTW games are huge and worth repping and this would be a really unexpected addtion. If this is seen as cheating I will gladly replace it.

First-party newcomer submission -
Black night (fire emblem)
View attachment 383160
Black night would be a slow heavyweight swordfighter but would hit really hard as a tradeoff, to help black night with camping and zoning his range would be longer and cover a bigger radius than most other swordfighters but much slower framedata, you could also give him the projectile he uses in combat in his games and maybe even a variation of tough guy

Elma (Xenoblade X)

Dont have much to say since i havent played her game but think she seems like a cool character. Does seem to still come up from time to time from a loyal fanbase & would be nice to have a rep from all Xenoblade games. Also might be good to finally give fans of X something decently big outside the Wii U even if we have no control over it finally being ported.

Gah my candidate got taken!

The Guardian Blasts Away the Competition!
Zelda

I initially was against this idea waaaaaay back during early Infinite when it got submitted but, as I thought of the idea, I felt it would be a fun and interesting pick as both a character and also as a submission process. I was torn from not including Master Kohga; especially given the character's prominence in the series but considering we already have two characters with "Master" in it; I don't want to include yet another that has Master in it.

In terms of moveset content, the character would incorporate its use of beams also also other weaponry commonly found amongst Gaurdian-like constructs. One concept that solidified my stance on this character was a Side Special which is a rush-attack that follows a set path but hitting backward while in mid-rush not only allows the character to aim backward and use the Special attack to fire a Guardian Laser but also to pivot to face the opponent. Another concept is to have the Gaurdian Laser attack have two stances: Roaming and Sentry. Sentry allows the Guardian to dig into the ground to steady itself and fire lasers. While not mobile, it extensively increases its launch resistance.

In terms of other attacks, we could get creative with the moveset submission process as, typically, dashing and blasting it all it does.

• Fawful
• Rambi
• Shy Guy
• Alear
• Skull Kid
• Toad
• Primid
• Paper Mario
• Pauline
• Champions
• Elma
• Black Knight
• Guardian

PLEASE VOTE FOR OUR NEWCOMER HERE

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I was torn between submitting characters like King Bomb-omb, Rhythm Girl, Master Kohga, and more. That being said, I love a lot of our submissions. Here are my thoughts on them:

• Fawful: I am unfamiliar with these Mario games but I do like the character concept to an extent. The character oozes with personality I know but the Squid Sisters are already a bit silly so I feel something more serious would be appropriate.
• Rambi: While an iconic submission, I feel that there are a lot of mechanic issues that would need to be addressed that, to me, can't be resolved with "he just sticks his horn into things". I would prefer Funky Kong over Rambi any day.
• Shy Guy: A fun and iconic suggestion that could be pulled from a wide assortment of Mario games including the Yoshi series. I could see submission time being fun and active.
• Alear: I honestly wonder why we have yet to add Alear is due to the community's disgust against FE content. I mean, Alear will eventually happen at some point I feel like and, if we are a Smash project, we should add Alear at some point.
• Skull Kid: I am extremely biased against Skull Kid but, within this list, I have characters I am more interested in.
• Toad: For me, I think Toad should be our choice. A great way to round off this festival near its end and we could even have a Toad Parade as a global event. Toad has also a wide assortment of stuff relating to Treasure Tracker. Alts of not only Toadette but also Toadsworth would be tons of fun.
• Primid: A head scratcher for sure but I think submissions for the Primid would be a fun time. I just think that Smash-original characters shouldn't be playable....wait...we added Master Hand. ****...
• Paper Mario: After Toad, Paper Mario is another character that should be seriously considered. PM would not be just a copy of Mario as he has tons of content to draw from.
• Pauline: I like this idea but Toad and PM are my main Mario wants.
• Champion: Probably takes the crown for my main Zelda want if I don't consider Skull Kid. The "champion rotation" mechanic is certainly interesting in theory but I wonder about the submission process.
• Elma: Elma and XBCX were done dirty in Ultimate. We rectified that in Infinite but, by adding Elma, we can undo decades of injustice against the game.
• Black Knight: 2006's me would of wanted Black Knight. 2020's me does not.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

GolisoPower
Glubbfubb
Mushroomguy12
keleyeemoh
Bencaua
Justoneguyhere1999
cashregister9
DragonRobotKing26

I forgot to add a 5 point option. While I may normally excuse it, Newcomer voting really does need that 5 point option. I am resetting votes. Could you guys revote again? I do apologize. I should of caught it but I quickly got that made and posted it before working on something else I had to do for personal stuff.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I like a lot of the choices like Elma, Alear, Pauline, Champion, and Paper Mario, but the prime one I'm pulling for is Toad. I've already said this before submissions but he really is such a glaring hole in the 1st Party side of the roster, I do think he's the last really big "tier of his own" among the 1st Parties to add.

I forgot to add a 5 point option. While I may normally excuse it, Newcomer voting really does need that 5 point option. I am resetting votes. Could you guys revote again? I do apologize. I should of caught it but I quickly got that made and posted it before working on something else I had to do for personal stuff.

Still seems to only be 4 points there?

Edit: never mind fixed

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I like a lot of the choices like Elma, Alear, Pauline, Champion, and Paper Mario, but the prime one I'm pulling for is Toad. I've already said this before submissions but he really is such a glaring hole in the 1st Party side of the roster, I do think he's the last really big "tier of his own" among the 1st Parties to add.

fixed. Sorry I keep getting called out to do things. I’ll be like that tomorrow as well.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I am sorry for botching the voting not once but twice but please make sure to go and vote! I will close voting down later today.

PLEASE VOTE FOR OUR NEWCOMER HERE

 

[ssbashworld]

Here are my thoughts on the nominees because why not

Alear - of course has my full support as Fire Emblem is one of my favorite series. Was kind of against the idea when Engage came out but have since seen some cool concepts so i think Alear could feel unique. Not sure how the community will feel about Fire Emblem at this point but even if there is some backlash i think the extra attention will be worth it even if it is negative considering at the end of the day its nothing that serious. Black Knight is a good villain pick but would rather rep the latest game or at least a game not on the roster (like Sacred Stones or the Jugdral games if we ever get the rumored remakes).

Mario - Lots of good choices. Toad is arguably the most iconic Nintendo character not playable. Played a Toad mod for PM before that also helped solidify the potential he could have as a fighter. Despite that i went with Pauline out of my own personal bias. Always thought she was a cool character who could use more attention. A Mario rpg rep like Paper Mario or Fawful makes sense too but we do already have Geno & these subseries just arent my thing. Shy Guy & Rambi are interesting picks & i guess can make sense if you wanted specifically a Yoshi or Animal Buddy rep or maybe someone a little more surprising (guess Pauline can also fit this bill)

Zelda - Went with Skull Kid, a good legacy pick. I think the time for the BOTW Champions has passed for now with TOTK out. Would make more sense to pull Kohga or the newer set of champions imo (havent finished totk).

Primid - Im ok with the idea but i just think the timings wrong. We did launch with Master Hand. Also would personally prefer another playable boss like Tabuu.

Elma (Xenoblade X)

Dont have much to say since i havent played her game but think she seems like a cool character. Does seem to still come up from time to time from a loyal fanbase & would be nice to have a rep from all Xenoblade games. Also might be good to finally give fans of X something decently big outside the Wii U even if we have no control over it finally being ported.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

I am sorry for botching the voting not once but twice but please make sure to go and vote! I will close voting down later today.

Wait, what was the second time? Do I need to vote again?

 

[GolisoPower]

Wait, what was the second time? Do I need to vote again?

Not really, I voted already, and I clicked the link and it says I already responded. I don't think we need to vote again.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Wait, what was the second time? Do I need to vote again?

I forgot to add a 5 point area on the first link and, the second time, I forgot to post the link. Just a reminder.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Name	Points
Fawful	7
Rambi	20
Shy Guy	13
Alear	25
Skull Kid	12
Toad	32
Primid	8
Paper Mario	19
Pauline	20
Champion	7
Elma	24
Black Knight	1
Guardian	17

Click below to reveal the character and the point breakdown of the votes

Spoiler: Time for Results!

Toad Finally Makes It In!

Toad is finally coming into Smash and is sure to be a huge reveal! We have a couple of things to decide as we move forward:

• Should we go with standard Toad or Captain Toad as the base?
• Can these two be alternate costumes?

Name	5 Points	4 Points	3 Points	2 Points	1 Point	Total Points
Fawful	0	1 (4)	1 (3)	0	0	7
Rambi	1 (5)	2 (8)	1 (3)	1 (2)	2	20
Shy Guy	1 (5)	0	1 (3)	2 (4)	1	13
Alear	1(5)	3 (12)	2 (6)	1 (2)	0	25
Skull Kid	0	1 (4)	2 (6)	0	2	12
Toad	3 (15)	2 (8)	0	4 (8)	1	32
Primid	1 (5)	0	0	1 (2)	1	8
Paper Mario	2 (10)	1 (4)	0	2 (2)	14	19
Pauline	1 (5)	1 (4)	3 (9)	1 (2)	0	20
Champion	0	0	2 (6)	0	1	7
Elma	2 (10)	2 (8)	1 (3)	1 (2)	1	24
Black Knight	0	0	0	0	1	1
Guardian	1 (5)	1 (4)	1 (3)	1 (2)	3	17

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

YOO RAMBI OUTRANKED FAWFUL AND SKULL KID #RAMBISWEEP

 

[Glubbfubb]

Name	Points
Fawful	7
Rambi	20
Shy Guy	13
Alear	25
Skull Kid	12
Toad	32
Primid	8
Paper Mario	19
Pauline	20
Champion	7
Elma	24
Black Knight	1
Guardian	17

Click below to reveal the character and the point breakdown of the votes

Spoiler: Time for Results!

Toad Finally Makes It In!

Toad is finally coming into Smash and is sure to be a huge reveal! We have a couple of things to decide as we move forward:

• Should we go with standard Toad or Captain Toad as the base?
• Can these two be alternate costumes?

Name	5 Points	4 Points	3 Points	2 Points	1 Point	Total Points
Fawful	0	1 (4)	1 (3)	0	0	7
Rambi	1 (5)	2 (8)	1 (3)	1 (2)	2	20
Shy Guy	1 (5)	0	1 (3)	2 (4)	1	13
Alear	1(5)	3 (12)	2 (6)	1 (2)	0	25
Skull Kid	0	1 (4)	2 (6)	0	2	12
Toad	3 (15)	2 (8)	0	4 (8)	1	32
Primid	1 (5)	0	0	1 (2)	1	8
Paper Mario	2 (10)	1 (4)	0	2 (2)	14	19
Pauline	1 (5)	1 (4)	3 (9)	1 (2)	0	20
Champion	0	0	2 (6)	0	1	7
Elma	2 (10)	2 (8)	1 (3)	1 (2)	1	24
Black Knight	0	0	0	0	1	1
Guardian	1 (5)	1 (4)	1 (3)	1 (2)	3	17

Spoiler: Comment on the Victor

Personally I feel like it would make more sense for Toadette to be an alternate costume over Toad, since Captain Toad is a bit too distinct from normal Toad to just make him an alternate costume.

also his home stage should be Toad's Turnpike, just saying.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Spoiler

Super happy to finally have Toad in. Regular Toad should obviously be the base, while Captain Toad can take up an alt slot. Toadette is also an obvious alternate costume (either 4 or 6 slots, with Explorer Toadette taking up 1 of those 4 or 6 slots as well.) I know I stated before that Toadsworth and Prince Florian could be the replacements for Peach and Daisy's neutrals B, but if demand for Toadsworth as an alt is high enough, we could also make Stella (from Princess Peach Showtime) the replacement for Peach's neutral B instead.

 

[BowserKing]

Spoiler: Spoilers for the newcomer

Remember that rumour in the Melee days

Well now those ones who made the rumour would be in for a shock now since Toad is actually playable

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Spoiler

I believe Toad was the highest placing character still not added to Smash in the official Smash Bros Japanese website poll pre-Melee (among the video game originating and therefore eligible characters). Obviously he was also the last playable character from lots of Mario games, both main and spinoffs, to be added as well.

 

[GolisoPower]

Spoiler

And with that, Toad's awesome speed is finally our's to command!

Honestly, I think this kit should be an embodiment of Toad's legacy. Give him the spears from Mario Galaxy, some of the stuff from his playable counterparts in NSMB, SM3DW and Wonder...maybe he didn't forget his bazooka at home this time.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Spoiler

Toad showing up to Smash like:

 

[DragonRobotKing26]

Spoiler

contratilations for Toad,now the Super Mario 3D World team is completed,and i'm ****ing hyped for Captain Toad as a alternate costume for Toad

 

[BowserKing]

Spoiler: Newcomer spoilers

I remembered something
Toad is a part of Peach and Daisy’s movesets
Do we replace the neutral special with something else?

 

[GolisoPower]

Spoiler: Newcomer spoilers

I remembered something
Toad is a part of Peach and Daisy’s movesets
Do we replace the neutral special with something else?

Spoiler

Not really, there's like a good hundred thousand of them or so in-universe, we don't gotta worry about that.

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

I am sorry but I am extremely tired and on mediciations righ tnow. I know the post below as TONS of grammar and spelling mistakes but....my fingers can barely move as I type. I feel so tired and depreesed righ tnopw.

Anyway, after deciding some things regarding our newest character, I made a big decision to create a montage character tat utilizes various aspects of Toad based on the media they are in including both mainline and psinoff Mario games Treasure Tracker. At the top of the thread is a poll to decide which is the default costume regular Toad or Captain Toad. He will pgrobably have a Hero situation where Regular Toadavailable, Captain Toad, Toadette, and perhaps Captain Toadette or Toadsworth if we want to go that route.

So vote which one you want as the default.

Submit Toa d Special Moves

Toad will probably be a rather straightforward character but, seeing as how he is a content, keeping it solely to Captain Toad'related attacks won't be as important. We will be adding Special Moves for the character of Toad but we will not be focusing on Captain Toad content but a conglomerate of Toad content from his mainline games, spin-off games PLUS Captain Treasure Tracker.

When submitting, please highlight whatt he special move is and if it is a reference from another game. We are not focusing solelyly on Tracker series but mainline, spinoff, and tracker trasure.

We will be alsol submitting neutrals as well and, obviously, the Final Smash for the character.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Side Special

Toad Kart

Works exactly as it does at around 1:25 in this video, Toad gets into a Pipe Frame kart and rams forward into opponents, working similar to other vehicle side specials. The kart can open a parasol and Toad can jump off of it, dropping the kart as a projectile.

 

[GolisoPower]

Down Special:

Party Dice:

Toad will take out a large projectile with scrambling numbers on it and place it down as if it were a Crate item. If it hits a fighter, it will deal the same damage as a thrown Crate, but the number will at a 0.x multiplier to the damage, with "x" being the number being rolled for the die when it hits someone. So rolling a 1 will deal 0.1x extra damage while 10 will double the normal damage.

 

[Glubbfubb]

Down Special
Toadal Payload
This move takes inspiration from Toad's first playable appearance not counting the reskinned Super Mario Bros 2, that being Wario's Woods for the NES and SNES. Toad will grab a bomb over his head and toss it in an arch. Toad is able to carry the bomb over his head, which can act as a shield against attacks from above. However if he holds onto it for too long the bomb will explode and damage him. However there is some risk and reward as the bomb deals twice the damage if it is tossed just before exploding so timing is everything when using this move.

(edit I noticed someone beat me to this type of move, so if this move can't work as his down special, I think giving him a cargo throw similar to this move will be cool since I feel like we should reference Wario Woods in some way.)

Neutral Special

Poison Spores
Based off the poison mushroom and actual mushrooms, Toad will tuck in and endure an attack, if he does get attacked, he will release a powerful cloud of toxic spores that poisons opponents and knocks them back. Essentially think of this as a buffed version of Peach's Neutral Special. If he isn't hit the attack is as effective as a low-powered Wario Waft.

 

[sal ig]

up B -
propeller mushroom (nsmb series)

out of the propeller mushroom and super acorn I decided to choose the propeller mushroom! the way toads up B would function is that toad would propel himself into the air at a fast speed upwards and after finishing the up Bs animation he would start slowly descending but he could speed the process up by holding down the analog stick

neutral B -
turnip pull (captain toad treasure tracker)

toad would pull out from the ground a turnip just like he does in treasure tracker and would be able to hold it after pulling it out of the ground

(also Venus dont push yourself your mental and physical health are very important)

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

Hi everyone, I wanted to apologize for how I was last night. In short, I was heavily medicated and tired after days of no sleep as I have been experiencing insomnia to some degree. So I was beyond tired but, and I do believe, was having a psychological issue. As I typed it, I was so tired and out of it that I heard music when there wasn't any music, the letters were dancing about as I typed them, and I felt very dizzy and achy. I even remember seeing things as I went to the window to get some water and thought I saw someone standing in the snow looking at my house. That wasn't the case though but I freaked out. I am MUCH better now that I got some sleep in. I passed out on the floor after I typed that. I do apologize for 1) being so late with everything, 2) trying to push through when I should care of myself, and 3) running the thread when in such a state. I am embarrassed after reading that post. I was doing some work on the wiki beforehand and I kept messing stuff up and, I thought, I can just do a little bit more, and.... well.... it was all embarrassing and shoddy work when I should have just put everything to the morning when I was more coherent.

But, yes, Toad is going to utilize various aspects of Toad's appearances from the long list of games he has been in which does include Captain Toad Treasure Tracker. I chose this route (before I got bad) as I wanted to not limit us to just one aspect of Toad. Also, Smash is about enjoying all aspects of these characters, not just one so that is why I wanted to incorporate content that makes Toad truly a Toad.

He will have your standard specials plus the Final Smash. We will also be allowing for neutrals as well. If you wish to include a move that is more.... complex, that is perfectly fine and we will try to work it into his toolkit.

I do want to mention, and I find this funny, that Smash Infinite was able to produce a community-led project of a Smash game. I know several places here on Smashboards tried that but never did. I was a part of one iteration back in 2013 or so and, well, we never even got the first character's moveset fleshed out but we were doing like 8 things at once. It was in Social Groups where we had threads. I just find that amazing that we managed to not only get one character made but....do all this together. It is simply amazing and I want to thank you all for being a part of that journey.

Also, I forgot to announce the following information:

• Marina Liteyears is a Mii Costume as we voted on that
• Off the Hook will replace the Squid Sisters for an Assist Trophy
• Prince of Persia is a Mii Costume

 

[Venus of the Desert Bloom]

It appears that regular Toad will be our default so I plan on getting renders and stock icons up today.

We will be doing Additional Content later today along with the Special Moves as I was late.

I do want to give a timeline of our upcoming content:

1. Festival of Frost (newcomer) Dec-Jan
   1. Third-Party Character
2. Festival of Roses (no newcomer) Feb
3. User-Voted Franchise festival (newcomer) Mar
   1. Open to 1&3rd Party
4. Spring Festival (newcomer) Apr
   1. Open to 1&3 Party
5. 1 User Voted Theme Festival (newcomer) Jun
   1. Open to 1&3rd Party
6. Fun Sun Summer Fest 2 (no newcomer) Jul/Aug
7. Festival of Fright (newcomer) Oct
   1. Third Party
8. Year 2 Festival (2~) Nov

 

[KneeOfJustice99]

Move Name: Toad's Item Stash
Origin/Inspiration: Super Mario Bros. 3 (onward)
Move Type: Down Special

A reoccuring element intrinsically tied to Toads throughout the Mario franchise is the Toad House - and while I wouldn't suggest that our Toad would bring his entire house with him, he would be able to bring a little something from it - namely, his stashed items!

When you input Down Special, he'll pull out his chest, slam it down in front of him, and dive inside. Then, after around 20 frames, he'll come back out of the chest with a new item equipped - at which point he picks it up and it vanishes again. When he comes out of the chest, though - he'll be holding one of five items, which he'll hold up before using. These are:

1. Super Mushroom - Holds it up, then it activates as if he'd just touched one.
2. Fire Flower - Holds it up, then holds it like normal.
3. Super Leaf - Holds it up, then it activates on him.
4. POW Block - Holds it up, then it immediately uses one of its three activations before he holds it like normal.
5. Bob-Omb - Holds it up, then holds it like normal. As usual, the timer starts to tick down.

Each of these are items that are already in the game, all of which are from the Mario series. The item pulled out is random each time, and there's a cooldown of around 10 seconds between each use - functioning similarly to Wario's cooldown on his Bike.

 

[darkvortex]

Final Smash - Mega Mushroom
Road pulls out the Mega Mushroom and takes it. From there the lovable little fungus person transforms into a giant version of himself who starts to jump up and down on the stage, wrecking havoc as he goes. He jumps automatically, but you can control where he lands . If he falla off the stage while the final smash is active then he will simply respawn.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Toad Final Smash submission: Fairies' Thanks

Toad opens up a book and summons a group of fairies from SMB2 - they scatter around the stage, landing on various platforms, where they serve as conveyer belts like how they pushed Wart at the end of SMB3. For Toad and his allies, they make them faster with no cons, but for Toad's enemies, they will forcefully move them quickly in the direction of the nearest blast zone (or, on scrolling stages, the direction being moved away from), with fighters being dropped off of any platforms the fairies push them off of.