dudutsai
Smash Lord
A rest like that is basically a rest out of nothing. So if you want to try those (I wouldn't recommend it) you could rest him EVERY time he tries to knee you without spacing..
lol
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lol
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
Who actually uses Double Stick Teching in real matches?
I've pulled off quite a few... but yeah anyone smart wouldn't hit you with a DSTech-able move after a missed Rest anyways. ^^
Doing it to Falcon Pawnches and other Puffs' Rests = TOO GOOD.
I've pulled off quite a few... but yeah anyone smart wouldn't hit you with a DSTech-able move after a missed Rest anyways. ^^
Doing it to Falcon Pawnches and other Puffs' Rests = TOO GOOD.
hungrybox
Smash Legend
I have new vids against colbol and chopz i believe - on youtube somewhere from Gigabits
PB&J
Smash Hero
its on my page pbnj2323
dudutsai
Smash Lord
Mango: Okay I just reread the first post (have you changed the Mang0 percentages??)
Other than Marth, is there a matchup I shouldn't nair a lot in?? Also playing a Marth who spams grab I'm using nair a lot should I????
Thanks
Other than Marth, is there a matchup I shouldn't nair a lot in?? Also playing a Marth who spams grab I'm using nair a lot should I????
Thanks
idea
Smash Master
you can crouch under marth's grab if you time it right =D
no timing required if they do standing grab, too.
no timing required if they do standing grab, too.
SnM-Rudolph
Smash Rookie
hey does mango still main jiggly. i was looking threw the cid discussion thread and all i saw was him using falco in the latest tournys
RestInPeace
Smash Ace
Play more puff! We need more inspiration.
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
Hbox your matches from that tourney were nice. Do work. :D
Also, no one posts here anymore.
Especially not our Puff g0d Mang0.
Also, no one posts here anymore.
Especially not our Puff g0d Mang0.
thataintflaco1338
Smash Journeyman
that may just be the only normal post you've ever made.
Just Sexed
Smash Ace
Mango how do you beat marth with jiggs?
I dont want anyone else on the boards to give me advice though your all scrubs
dudutsai
Smash Lord
Hey no insulting. puffs gotta stay together! But you won't be getting any advice from me you don't deserve itMango how do you beat marth with jiggs?
I dont want anyone else on the boards to give me advice though your all scrubs
idea
Smash Master
yo
2 beat marth
pick up
a sword
2 beat marth
pick up
a sword
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
:DDDDDDDDDDDD
Well that's not very nice. lol.Mango how do you beat marth with jiggs?
I dont want anyone else on the boards to give me advice though your all scrubs
Cia
das kwl
i'm the most massive scrub ever. my jigglypuff misses rests.
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
LMFAO @ your sig. ****.i'm the most massive scrub ever. my jigglypuff misses rests.
Oh god, I STILL miss Uthrow Rest on Foxes. I don't get it. I never miss Falco, but I almost never hit Fox. >_<
Tamoo
Smash Master
I actually occasionally have trouble hitting foxes too, its weird
is there any difference in timing from fox to falco or sumthing :s
is there any difference in timing from fox to falco or sumthing :s
idea
Smash Master
you could just stop using it, then. you could upthrow to combos or upair or techchase...
or just go to training mode and put fox on jump? does that make them jump as soon as possible? failing that ask a friend to do it.
as for differences...falco falls faster. not sure if the throw has more hitstun or not but either way falco falls faster. i often find it easier to double jump on fox after the upthrow...well, depending on percentages.
or just go to training mode and put fox on jump? does that make them jump as soon as possible? failing that ask a friend to do it.
as for differences...falco falls faster. not sure if the throw has more hitstun or not but either way falco falls faster. i often find it easier to double jump on fox after the upthrow...well, depending on percentages.
Little England
Smash Master
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
I'll try the computer thing in a minute.
The video showing Uthrow Rest %s... forgot who made it... Fox goes up to like 10x and Falco to like 12x... and it shows the Uthrow and Rest as consecutive hits.
Edit: The computer on Jump makes them Jump from neutral position on the floor.
And as for consecutive hits... I can't even get them to connect for 2 at 65%. >_<
I don't get it.
Edit Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blZWslSgLC0
Magus<3
Haha juuust watched them, was gonna wait for Mango to post, but oh well. ;P
idea
Smash Master
lol i play the falcon matchup almost the same...just with worse edgeguarding and more rests. a lot more rests, actually. but probably not on SS <_<
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
It's the best kind of ****.
RestInPeace
Smash Ace
Did you guys see King vs SS matches? They're up, also by TheWaffle77. I love the way his Jiggs moves. It amazes me.
dudutsai
Smash Lord
uthrow rest timing for fox and falco are different. Probably addressed already.... whatever.
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
Recent ones? O_O
Edit: OMFG yes recent ones. I'm bout to watch. Thanks RIP! ^_^
Yup, thanks anyway tho! ^_^
idea
Smash Master
king's jiggs is so cool =)
i must say, though, if you watch both their recent sets vs. ss, you can really see the difference. mango makes himself harder to hit. iirc he also makes a point of being more unpredictable.
i must say, though, if you watch both their recent sets vs. ss, you can really see the difference. mango makes himself harder to hit. iirc he also makes a point of being more unpredictable.
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
I agree with both. King's Puff is too good, Mango's is way too good.
No rests in 2 matches
Definately rusty, still did nasty as hell vs one of the/the top Falcon. Can't wait to see more of him. ^_^
Mango rooting against a fellow Puff tho? :'(
No rests in 2 matches
Definately rusty, still did nasty as hell vs one of the/the top Falcon. Can't wait to see more of him. ^_^
Mango rooting against a fellow Puff tho? :'(
doomfact0r
Smash Rookie
Hey all puffs I love the community here, you guys have given me inspiration to keep playing Jiggs even though my friends laugh at me
I could use some advice playing against sheik and samus tho. My friend who plays sheik gets me with ftilts and aerials faster than I can attack sometimes, and the guy who plays samus uses a lot of side-dodge mind games and good spacing for smashes. Anyone have any quick pointers/general tips to improve aerials? Nair works pretty well to a point but it gets tricky when they get back in position on the ground. Eh maybe I'm kinda scrub I'm still trying to learn how to incorporate rest combos into my game (other guy always DI's to safety) but I can still hold my own alright. Anyways any help would be much appreciated
Jiggs forever!!
I could use some advice playing against sheik and samus tho. My friend who plays sheik gets me with ftilts and aerials faster than I can attack sometimes, and the guy who plays samus uses a lot of side-dodge mind games and good spacing for smashes. Anyone have any quick pointers/general tips to improve aerials? Nair works pretty well to a point but it gets tricky when they get back in position on the ground. Eh maybe I'm kinda scrub I'm still trying to learn how to incorporate rest combos into my game (other guy always DI's to safety
) but I can still hold my own alright. Anyways any help would be much appreciated Jiggs forever!!
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
Hey doom, glad to see you're sticking with Puff. ^_^
Uhm I'll try to throw in some general advice...
Aerials...
Fair and Bair are ****. Space them a lot. When you're out of range, float around and space aerials... when one connects, try to follow up with another, and another, and WOP WOP WOP. ^_^
Personally, I like to push across the stage with fairs... if they get shield campy, **** their shield with spaced Bairs... they have muchhhhhh more range than you think (Thanks Idea<3) ^_^
Personally I always do;
Full hop forward -> Bair -> Float Back -> Double Jump Forward -> Bair -> float out of their grab range.
Rinse & repeat. Shield break? :D
Nair out of shield is ****. Use it. ^_^
Try to land behind them so if you hit with the weak part of the Nair you don't get grab *****.
As for Rest... reliable Rest setups are...
Uthrow -> Rest on spacies
Uair -> Rest
Utilt -> Rest
Crouch Cancel -> Rest
Jump out of Shield -> Rest
L cancel'd Nair / Reverse L cancel'd Nair -> Rest
Watch Mango, King, and Hbox videos, and play a lot. You will ****. ^_^
All Puffs feel free to correct me if you disagree with any of this.
Uhm I'll try to throw in some general advice...
Aerials...
Fair and Bair are ****. Space them a lot. When you're out of range, float around and space aerials... when one connects, try to follow up with another, and another, and WOP WOP WOP. ^_^
Personally, I like to push across the stage with fairs... if they get shield campy, **** their shield with spaced Bairs... they have muchhhhhh more range than you think (Thanks Idea<3) ^_^
Personally I always do;
Full hop forward -> Bair -> Float Back -> Double Jump Forward -> Bair -> float out of their grab range.
Rinse & repeat. Shield break? :D
Nair out of shield is ****. Use it. ^_^
Try to land behind them so if you hit with the weak part of the Nair you don't get grab *****.
As for Rest... reliable Rest setups are...
Uthrow -> Rest on spacies
Uair -> Rest
Utilt -> Rest
Crouch Cancel -> Rest
Jump out of Shield -> Rest
L cancel'd Nair / Reverse L cancel'd Nair -> Rest
Watch Mango, King, and Hbox videos, and play a lot. You will ****. ^_^
All Puffs feel free to correct me if you disagree with any of this.
idea
Smash Master
that's a pretty trivial thing to laugh at you about =P
sheik's moves are faster than yours...so you pretty much have to be doing yours first. that basically means you have to play really patiently (read: campy). also try crouching. crouching works SO well on sheiks that don't really know the matchup.
as for samus...i dunno, be more patient there too. samus isn't hard for puff. sounds like you might be rushing into things. sidestep definitely shouldn't be working that well =P use shield a lot, samus isn't fast.
more generally:
sheik - crouch a lot. don't approach too hastily. played well on both sides, this ends up being mostly about spacing aerials, and bull**** crouching powers =P
- upairs and uptilts to rests, and sheik can't kill you too easily if you miss/they die off the side.
- edgeguarding: grab edge, sheik up-b's on to the stage, you rest her in the lag. if you're not confident about hitting that (it is kind of weird) then bair.
samus - use bair a lot. she can't get past it very well. most of your aerials beat her missiles. if you play really slowly and boringly samus has a lot of trouble here. just think of it from the samus' perspective.
you're samus...and this little ball keeps using a move with lots of range and priority, then floating far away from you...
- if she dash attacks you, shield it, then jump straight up and rest. do the same thing but jump towards her as necessary when her dsmash hits your shield, and i think fsmash if it's close enough. supposedly you can do this with a bunch of samus' moves, but i don't have a full list or anything. the dash attack one is just the easiest to get.
yeah, these aren't the most exciting matchups. with sheik i find that a lot of the time i have to make stuff up as i go, to trick the better character...but vs. samus i feel very safe using my various silly aerials.
sheik's moves are faster than yours...so you pretty much have to be doing yours first. that basically means you have to play really patiently (read: campy). also try crouching. crouching works SO well on sheiks that don't really know the matchup.
as for samus...i dunno, be more patient there too. samus isn't hard for puff. sounds like you might be rushing into things. sidestep definitely shouldn't be working that well =P use shield a lot, samus isn't fast.
more generally:
sheik - crouch a lot. don't approach too hastily. played well on both sides, this ends up being mostly about spacing aerials, and bull**** crouching powers =P
- upairs and uptilts to rests, and sheik can't kill you too easily if you miss/they die off the side.
- edgeguarding: grab edge, sheik up-b's on to the stage, you rest her in the lag. if you're not confident about hitting that (it is kind of weird) then bair.
samus - use bair a lot. she can't get past it very well. most of your aerials beat her missiles. if you play really slowly and boringly samus has a lot of trouble here. just think of it from the samus' perspective.
you're samus...and this little ball keeps using a move with lots of range and priority, then floating far away from you...
- if she dash attacks you, shield it, then jump straight up and rest. do the same thing but jump towards her as necessary when her dsmash hits your shield, and i think fsmash if it's close enough. supposedly you can do this with a bunch of samus' moves, but i don't have a full list or anything. the dash attack one is just the easiest to get.
yeah, these aren't the most exciting matchups. with sheik i find that a lot of the time i have to make stuff up as i go, to trick the better character...but vs. samus i feel very safe using my various silly aerials.
Keblerelf
Smash Ace
What are some ways puff can get up onto the stage besides the regular attack, get up, and roll? You can't really waveland and jumping out w/ an attack can just be CCd sometimes =/
It's like I just cycle through the same 3 things.
It's like I just cycle through the same 3 things.
idea
Smash Master
you could jump off and bair at them till they leave you alone, regrabbing the edge as necessary. it's pretty intimidating. if they're far enough away you could just jump back onstage.
spaced bairs would also beat CCed whatever. or if there's a platform you could gradually get up there.
most characters do have to cycle through those few options, but jiggs has 6 jumps =P
also, getup attack sometimes seems to weirdly push people away far enough, even when they're CCing. i always get into the habit of using it with other characters but it only works well with jiggs for some reason.
spaced bairs would also beat CCed whatever. or if there's a platform you could gradually get up there.
most characters do have to cycle through those few options, but jiggs has 6 jumps =P
also, getup attack sometimes seems to weirdly push people away far enough, even when they're CCing. i always get into the habit of using it with other characters but it only works well with jiggs for some reason.
HT F8
Hostile Takeover
If they're being really aggressive, make them feel silly. Ledgedrop by pressing away from the stage, then use your 5 jumps to float your way around them & back to the stage via platform, or put yourself into position for a Dair/Fair to help get you back safely.
Works really well for me. ^_^
Also, it's really risky, but ledgehop up-b. Put them to sleep, and get back onstage. lmao. Maybe even sneak in a Dsmash, Fsmash, Rest, or Rollout.
Edit: Idea's right. Also, sneaking in a quick ledgehop fair or two can scare them away.
Alix
Smash Rookie
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i seem to be having the most trouble against marth/sheik
could you expand on those 2 matchups
(i have read the first page) but is there anything else? ^_^
also against sheik, if they decide to go onett on you, what are the chances of winning --
should i just use a different character if i know they are going to counterpick that?
anything on the course that a puff could take advantage of?
it seems like puff gets @#$%@ on onett, HARD
though maybe its just me. xD"
could you expand on those 2 matchups
(i have read the first page) but is there anything else? ^_^
also against sheik, if they decide to go onett on you, what are the chances of winning --
should i just use a different character if i know they are going to counterpick that?
anything on the course that a puff could take advantage of?
it seems like puff gets @#$%@ on onett, HARD
though maybe its just me. xD"
Tamoo
Smash Master
Onett lol? havent played there in a while
I can imagine fox being quite **** against shiek there with all the waveshine infinites you can pull off there, save for the cars that come.
Jiggs loses her advantage of being able to recover everywhere but the platforms make for good places to combo and perform techchase rests, apart from that, i cant really think what on onett would benefit jiggs at all, cars waking you up from missed rests maybe lol?
I can imagine fox being quite **** against shiek there with all the waveshine infinites you can pull off there, save for the cars that come.
Jiggs loses her advantage of being able to recover everywhere but the platforms make for good places to combo and perform techchase rests, apart from that, i cant really think what on onett would benefit jiggs at all, cars waking you up from missed rests maybe lol?
Mokumo
Smash Ace
what about using pound to get back to the stage from the ledge?
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