Standard version of melee

[Zodiac]

If we were to appoint a standard version of melee to be played all around the world would it be ntsc or pal?

 

[Bones0]

PAL is the logical choice simply because it is the most recent version. The only reason someone would consider NTSC is because they think it's more balanced, but I think most people consider PAL to be better balanced. Fox's nerfed usmash, Marth's meteor-cancellable dair, Sheik's dthrow, etc.

 

[_Keno_]

Yeah, PAL nerfs a lot of absurd NTSC stuff, though not all of it. Some things like ganon's fair are nerfed too much though.

PAL is generally more balanced for sure though.

 

[TheDekuNut]

PAL falcos sweet spot their dais so well when they pillar, it makes the combos look so cool and more difficult. they shouldn't have nerfed marth's dair, that kills the Ken combo. so sad for Europe

 

[LLDL]

Marth's dair being a meteor is the dumbest **** ever. I would appoint 1.2.

 

[Glöwworm]

NTSC for sure.

 

[Jonas]

NTSC 1.2 is just more fun

But like make another version that features Flame Cancel and Sheik's PAL Dthrow

 

[Pengie]

NTSC because no one likes playing games that have had dumb nerfs. The broken things like Sheik's Down throw, Fox's Up Smash, and Marth's spike are what make this game so fun at times. As balanced as PAL may be, it sounds kind of of unappealing because of things like that being gone.

 

[Pi]

1.0 or 1.1

give link & bowser their neat little tricks

 

[Metal Reeper]

NTSC cause I play Marth.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Strong Badam]

1.02 because Ganon's nair isn't dumb.

 

[Eggm]

NTSC 1.0. Its the best version.

 

[EPsilon933]

Pa l

 

[Stevo]

1.00 NTSC

I do like a couple of the fixes in PAL, but that doesn't balance out all the changes I don't like with PAL

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

NTSC 1.0. Its the best version.

This guy speaks the truth.

 

[nube]

NTSC 1.5.

 

[sirlaser]

NTSC 1.5.

So...you mean Project: M?

 

[Jonas]

Project M should be standard, yes

 

[TheDekuNut]

eggm just wants them drillz

 

[NeutralDamage]

PAL with marth's dair being a spike (a non-cancellable) would be the best version imo.

 

[Signia]

NTSC because no one likes playing games that have had dumb nerfs. The broken things like Sheik's Down throw, Fox's Up Smash, and Marth's spike are what make this game so fun at times. As balanced as PAL may be, it sounds kind of of unappealing because of things like that being gone.

Really. A grab that obsoletes a portion of the cast is fun.

 

[Tichinde925]

Counting in Hacked Melee Stages too?

 

[Jonas]

Sheik's NTSC Dthrow is just dumb and one of the few overpowered things in Melee that aren't fun.

PAL with marth's dair being a spike (a non-cancellable) would be the best version imo.

Don't forget Ganon's NTSC Fair
It just makes you feel awesome when you hit someone.

 

[Stevo]

they also nerfed Mario's weight and yoshi's drill kick

I'm surprised Roy wasn't nerfed, as he was obviously way too good when the game first came out

 

[Jonas]

Loool

He has a move that kills anyone in 1 hit, he's extremely overpowered!!!!

 

[SSBMLahti]

Is there somewhere where I can find the changes made between all the versions?

 

[nube]

Project: M?

That would be 2.0, not 1.5.

 

[erbanez]

A super incredible hybrid of the games with marth's spike, nerfed fox, and captain falcon being as manly as ever

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

Ness' PK Thunder stays if he gets hit while he's trying to control it in 1.0, and everybody knows all the pros play Ness.

 

[Kason Birdman]

Honestly, as long as it aint brawl I could care less about what version I'm playin.

 

[Strong Badam]

they also nerfed Mario's weight and yoshi's drill kick

yoshi's weighs more, his fsmash has more knockback, and sheik can no longer cg him. hes wayyy better in PAL.

honestly tho the main issue with sheik's dthrow was that it had a low launch point and only 50 knockback growth. takes forever to stop comboing into itself. 65-70 kbg would have made it way less dumb

 

[Wretched]

Honestly, I thought this was a bad idea at first, but thinking about it from a financial standpoint, nintendo should make a new version of this game that could be universally played/sold.
If they did some minor tweaks and balances with cooperation with the smash community (LIKE NOT TAKING A **** ON GANONS FAIR) they could resell the game as a new version of smash. They'd make so much and the Melee community would peak in players.

 

[Jonas]

Honestly, as long as it aint brawl I couldn't care less about what version I'm playin.

Hear, hear!

 

[Strong Badam]

honestly starting off posts with "Honestly," makes them far more believable.

 

[Papero]

Honestly, I thought this was a bad idea at first, but thinking about it from a financial standpoint, nintendo should make a new version of this game that could be universally played/sold.
If they did some minor tweaks and balances with cooperation with the smash community (LIKE NOT TAKING A **** ON GANONS FAIR) they could resell the game as a new version of smash. They'd make so much and the Melee community would peak in players.

That's what Iwata would've done basically if Sakurai hadn't agree to make Brawl. It probably wouldn't have sold 9.5 million copies then, in my opinion.

On topic, I'd say the edition with the latest gameplay updates would be the standard, which in this case, is PAL. Just "if" it was possible to create a standard.

 

[Pi]

well eventually when all our discs break and we have to use melee on the VC (if they re-release it)
or when we have to all hack our wii's to play melee from a dvd we could enforce a standard since it's easy to burn multiple version 1's or pal's or w/e

 

[Mindgames Son!]

PAL is more broken then NTSC

You don't need to time the gentlemen.......broken!

 

[Jonas]

Yeah, which is why C. Falcon has been dominating PAL tournies since 2002.

 

[Stevo]

yoshi's weighs more, his fsmash has more knockback, and sheik can no longer cg him. hes wayyy better in PAL.

Yes he is wayy better. But I still don't see the point in nerfing his drill kick. Just seems kinda random to me.

Did they think they were making Yoshi too good? It would be interesting to know their reasoning behind all the changes.

Ganon was too good in free for alls obviously

 

[Esper]

ntsc has harder combos while pal is slightly better balanced...

I'd like to have a Melee with:
NTSC: Marth dair, Ganon fair, Falco dair, Link up-b, Samus tricks,
PAL: Sheik dthrow and uair, CF jab, Fox usmash