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Fair enough, the wolf group only works through Skype now adays, and the diddy players don't talk Sept me and mad, I'm used to this lol.
Nothing shows up when I try to add you
Hmm try no caps? ryan.hearn.zhi@gmail.com
sent the add, had to remove the periods
He's not compared to some characters .
You're wrong, name one
So this is incredibly ironic, but I just got a ride home from the winner of our weekly (who is also former Melee PR) who seems to think Squirtle is holding me back.
I've been getting a lot better with squirtle and im pretty good with him. Im not on dads level with him but im getting pretty good with him and i understand how you're suppose to play him. I'm best with falco though. Falco has everything he needs. There's not one thing i can complain about when it comes to falco. But squirtle.. He's fun, and he has potential, but he feels like a puzzle with missing pieces. When I play squirtle, i just feel like he's missing something. He doesn't feel like a complete character like falco does. Hopefully he'll be better and more complete in a later release.
Here's the thing, obviously this is only going from my own biased view but I don't have much else to go off from. Last week I took down 2 melee PR players and I lost to KJH in losers finals, I haven't even been going to tournaments a year but I still kept it close and took a game. Sure there's the him not knowing the matchup side of it but there's also me having miles of improvement to do. I don't think spacies are an unwinnable matchup in the slightest for squirtle, I think anyone who believes that is playing it wrong and not edgeguarding them correctly. You might be able to make an argument in saying that Fox and Falco are better characters than squirtle but even that can't be said this early. I honestly think Marth is muchhh harder, I posted the 3 streamed sets on the video sticky if you want to see where I'm going off from.
What do you think Squirtle needs? The only thing that comes to mind for me is a way to deal with CC, and I think we can fix that ourselves if we can develop more grab setups that work against it (shellsling water gun is what I'm toying with right now, I've gotten it to work sometimes but the spacing is difficult).
You're probably somewhat better than me, then, assuming your PR is roughly comparable to mine. I absolutely need to work on my space animal edgeguards.
Luigi is definitely a pain in the ass, half the time I opt to go Ice Climbers against him because of it. The biggest problem with him is he's one of the few characters that has movement close to squirtle and you need to respect his space more than he has to respect yours. Thankfully he's not a fast faller so he's easy to kill off the top. Also bubble is Squirtle's best anti cc imo, but you want to time it later so you can put a move out quicker since it has the short jump to it now.
Edgeguarding them is pretty easy. Ledgehop nair will at least trade with all of their options and semi-spikes.
It's not that straightforward in my experience, unless you've knocked them very far away.
I mean he's definitely SSS tier in terms of cuteness
Do you have a video of it? I'm not entirely sure what you mean
I dont have video, but basically sometimes when you ss on the ledge you'll fall off and snap to it
AJ hitbox is frame 6 IIRC, plus whatever Squirtle's jumpsquat is since we're doing it OOS (I think it's 4?). Fox shine OOS is like frame 4 including his jumpsquat IIRC--much faster.
Oh, alright. I'll look into it. I can't say that I remember it ever happening to me though tbh.
I looked into it a bit and it does seem like it may be a pc drop like that guy said before. Idk if squirtle's shell shenanigans just make them easier or somethin <_>
I never got in on this either, despite having posted in the dedicated thread some time ago. What's up?
