[SPOILER ALERT] - The Sevens Squares. - A Square-Enix general support threads.

[Rumble Red]

It might totally be confirmation bias. But us in the Geno thread have noticed that Nintendo is referencing Super Mario RPG A LOT. For like. No good reason currently. They just kinda keep doing it. Going into territory that we are pretty sure they had to negotiate with SE for.

Being a direct reference in the first stage of a new release they released a demo for seems like they really want us to notice it.

I feel you, but...

From my understanding. All there is that can be seen as solid is that Erdrick is called brave. Well so is a lot of people in video games. Everything else is being completely based off "Well DQ is popular".

We shouldn't really take upcoming releases as solid proof of anything. Because there are plenty of upcoming big releases they can take characters from. Thinking new dragon quest game = smash character is more confirmation bias then anything

If a couple of SMRPG references count as significant, then so do two Nintendo-published Dragon Quest releases and a prime spot in a Direct. Have your thing, but don't dismiss my thing.

 

[MissingGlitch]

I feel you, but...

If a couple of SMRPG references count as significant, then so do two Nintendo-published Dragon Quest releases and a prime spot in a Direct. Have your thing, but don't dismiss my thing.

I meant more in context for plans for maybe doing something with Super Mario RPG again. I don't think they would be making all these references for a smash appearance. Just like how Nintendo stroking Dragon Quest doesn't mean a smash character. It was more interesting because Nintendo spends the last decade ignoring SMRPG just to randomly start acknowledging it's existence quite often

 

[Deleted member]

I meant more in context for plans for maybe doing something with Super Mario RPG again. I don't think they would be making all these references for a smash appearance. Just like how Nintendo stroking Dragon Quest doesn't mean a smash character.

Yeah, you are probably right.

 

[Deleted member]

Goddamn, what isn't leakbait at this point?

Its simple, by the logic for a lot of people here it seems that the character they like isnt leakbait :b (I talk in general)

One thing I'd like to point out is that Joker's height value (Which is the same as Young Link, iirc) might be, as expected, a placeholder value. We did see his model and it appears to be around the same size as Marth/Lucina. This absolutely opens the door to "brave" height of 13 to be nothing more than a placeholder as well.

We never discovered what it actually did, if it was used to group characters by height or something related to other factor then it will certainly change.

 

[Idon]

I thought his reasoning was that Simon was more recognizable?

Possibly? But Alucard by far is the more popular as a character.

 

[SSGuy]

Either I am playing mind tricks on myself or someone recently linked a developer stream of DQ11S where Smssh Bros was briefly mentioned at the start. Not a confirmation or anything but just bringing it up. There was a link with that video.

However I am having a difficult time finding it here. I swear something like that has been posted but I want to know if someone had confirmation on that. Does anyone know what I am talking about?

 

[Idon]

Either I am playing mind tricks on myself or someone recently linked a developer stream of DQ11S where Smssh Bros was briefly mentioned at the start. Not a confirmation or anything but just bringing it up. There was a link with that video.

However I am having a difficult time finding it here. I swear something like that has been posted but I want to know if someone had confirmation on that. Does anyone know what I am talking about?

Yeah, that was posted a while back.

Personally, wouldn't put too much stock into it. Lotta streams randomly bring up Smash bros.

 

[Teeb147]

If Erdrick gets in with a Luminary alt, (and possibly some others) I think that's more than good enough to be a face for Dragon Quest. Especially if they have slime in the moveset somewhere. Not to mention slimes dont look like goku

I don't hate slime, at all. But if I had to choose I would much rather have a hero (or multiple ones like with alts) than a lvl1 monster.

 

[Icewolff92]

Just a random question out of fun just because we have a drought with Smash news right now.
What would be the dream crossover for you Square related that is not with Smash Brothers (and not Geno back with Mario because I know that a lot would say that too)?

Can be Sora in Xenoblade, Cloud in Halo, Dragon Quest, and Legend of Zelda. You get the idea.

 

[Deleted member]

Just a random question out of fun just because we have a drought with Smash news right now.
What would be the dream crossover for you Square related that is not with Smash Brothers (and not Geno back with Mario because I know that a lot would say that too)?

Can be Sora in Xenoblade, Cloud in Halo, Dragon Quest, and Legend of Zelda. You get the idea.

Geno in the Mother series

 

[MajoraMan28]

Just a random question out of fun just because we have a drought with Smash news right now.
What would be the dream crossover for you Square related that is not with Smash Brothers (and not Geno back with Mario because I know that a lot would say that too)?

Can be Sora in Xenoblade, Cloud in Halo, Dragon Quest, and Legend of Zelda. You get the idea.

The Legend of Zelda and Final Fantasy, hands down for me

 

[DaxMasterix]

Just a random question out of fun just because we have a drought with Smash news right now.
What would be the dream crossover for you Square related that is not with Smash Brothers (and not Geno back with Mario because I know that a lot would say that too)?

Can be Sora in Xenoblade, Cloud in Halo, Dragon Quest, and Legend of Zelda. You get the idea.

Final Fantasy in Kirby

 

[TheYungLink]

Yoshi has been associated with cookies before Super Mario RPG.

Edit: posted wrong, gimme a sec

Uh direct image link then: https://www.moregameslike.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Yoshis-Cookie.jpg


You can even see the ring shaped cookies in that screenshot in the previous page.

I'm not saying Crafted World didn't have a SMRPG reference considering the way "Yo'ster" is spelled (with an apostrophe), but I felt the need to remind people about this.

 

[TriggerX]

At this point I wouldnt be surprised if we get a DQ rep. They are a long running series, and the amount of DQ content coming out is definitely a push to get some more exposure.

Now would be a good time for them to introduce a character in smash bros.

Thanks to the direct, I still have hope for Sora so no complaints here.


Also if someone could explain what Erdrick can do that Link doesnt Id appreciate it.

 

[Teeb147]

Yoshi has been associated with cookies before Super Mario RPG.

noo yung link. the genos need this to keep going strong. they need their hooope.

 

[DaxMasterix]

noo yung link. the genos need this to keep going strong. they need their hooope.

SHUT THE **** UP.

But really, look for some Yo'ster Cookies on the Internet. We know "Yo'ster" is Yoshi's Island but, why not Yoshi's Cookies instead of Yo'ster.

 

[TheCJBrine]

tbh I was also thinking Yoshi's Cookie but it didn't use "Yo'ster," however I think the cookie design may have been the same.

Nintendo has certainly referenced SMRPG more lately, though...which seems odd because, if they're not planning on doing anything with the IP, then surely they realize they're giving false hope? This is why something new with the IP seems, at the very least, possible.

maybe we'll get Geno and Mallow in Mario Maker 2.

 

[Teeb147]

At this point I wouldnt be surprised if we get a DQ rep. They are a long running series, and the amount of DQ content coming out is definitely a push to get some more exposure.

Now would be a good time for them to introduce a character in smash bros.

Thanks to the direct, I still have hope for Sora so no complaints here.


Also if someone could explain what Erdrick can do that Link doesnt Id appreciate it.

Out of simplicity, you can check out these spells:
https://dragon-quest.org/wiki/Erdrick#Spells

And then there's an amazing amount of different kinds of slashes that are possible from later games.
Technically there's also a lot of different weapons possible too, but I would think they'd stick to swords.

Possibly monster taming/using too.

If you want to see some attacks or skills in action then I'd recommend looking at DQ11 combat or DQHeroes2

 

[TheYungLink]

noo yung link. the genos need this to keep going strong. they need their hooope.

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Edit: by "The Island in Yoshi's Island isn't Yoster Island," he means that the setting of the video game "Yoshi's Island" is not the same place as "Yoster Island" from Super Mario World and SMRPG.

Clyde Mandelin is an extremely trustworthy Japanese to English translator. He's known for working on tons of English subtitles for Funimation acquired anime. He's also known for being a huge part of the fan translation for Mother 3.

I trust this guy a lot, is what I'm saying.

 

[Captain Fun]

Also if someone could explain what Erdrick can do that Link doesnt Id appreciate it.

Besides the weapons, there's options in a lot of DQ spells. Creating explosions, fire, lightning, putting enemies to sleep, turning their body to steel, etc. You can also take some liberties and explore the monster battling mechanics of some later games.

 

[Arcadenik]

I'd be okay with DQ Mii Costumes (Luminary, Erdrick, etc) and Slime Hat

Assuming we even get third party Mii costumes again. Sucks that they were all cut in Ultimate.

 

[Idon]

Just a random question out of fun just because we have a drought with Smash news right now.
What would be the dream crossover for you Square related that is not with Smash Brothers (and not Geno back with Mario because I know that a lot would say that too)?

Can be Sora in Xenoblade, Cloud in Halo, Dragon Quest, and Legend of Zelda. You get the idea.

Ahem.

Life is suffering.

 

[Looma]

Just a random question out of fun just because we have a drought with Smash news right now.
What would be the dream crossover for you Square related that is not with Smash Brothers (and not Geno back with Mario because I know that a lot would say that too)?

Can be Sora in Xenoblade, Cloud in Halo, Dragon Quest, and Legend of Zelda. You get the idea.

The World Ends With You x Jet Set Radio

 

[Teeb147]

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Clyde Mandelin is an extremely trustworthy Japanese to English translator. He's known for working on tons of English subtitles for Funimation acquired anime. He's also known for being a huge part of the fan translation for Mother 3.

I trust this guy a lot, is what I'm saying.

I was trying to find a dramatic scene where someone gets attacks unnecessarily, but couldnt find any. ah well.

 

[Deleted member]

Just a random question out of fun just because we have a drought with Smash news right now.
What would be the dream crossover for you Square related that is not with Smash Brothers (and not Geno back with Mario because I know that a lot would say that too)?

Can be Sora in Xenoblade, Cloud in Halo, Dragon Quest, and Legend of Zelda. You get the idea.

Probably DQ x TLoZ, having Link as a guest adventurer would be quite fun.

Alternatively DQ Monsters x Pokemon, Slime and Pikachu join forces to battle the Dragonlord (villain of the first DQ)

Maybe Xenoblade x Xenogears? After all Gears is the only missing one from XB2 cameos.

Ahem.
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Life is suffering.

Game was fine, issue was that it shouldn't have been advertised as SMT x FE.

 

[Idon]

Probably DQ x TLoZ, having Link as a guest adventurer would be quite fun.

Alternatively DQ Monsters x Pokemon, Slime and Pikachu join forces to battle the Dragonlord (villain of the first DQ)

Maybe Xenoblade x Xenogears? After all Gears is the only missing one from XB2 cameos.

Game was fine, issue was that it shouldn't have been advertised as SMT x FE.

Yeah, I know, other than its story and the battle animations taking too long it worked pretty good as a JRPG.

Still despise it though.

 

[Untouch]

Perhaps MAYBE it's just a reference to another game they published?

 

[ThreeT]

Xenoblade x Persona for me.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Just a random question out of fun just because we have a drought with Smash news right now.
What would be the dream crossover for you Square related that is not with Smash Brothers (and not Geno back with Mario because I know that a lot would say that too)?

Can be Sora in Xenoblade, Cloud in Halo, Dragon Quest, and Legend of Zelda. You get the idea.

Nintendo now owns the rights to Zidane, however they don’t have a series for him so he just cameos in every Nintendo game.

(The real answer is the Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei we were promised)

 

[Icewolff92]

Nintendo now owns the rights to Zidane, however they don’t have a series for him so he just cameos in every Nintendo game.

(The real answer is the Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei we were promised)

Maybe it is my bias towards Fire Emblem... (loved the series since Blazing Sword) but I hate that crossover. And I enjoy SMT games

 

[helloiamhere]

It's pretty obvious it's a reference to Super Mario RPG with the apostrophe and the fact that the subplot for Yo'ster Isle was Boshi taking everyone's cookies. There's no need to complicate this.

Just for a quick history lesson, it is only referred to Yo'ster isle (ヨースター島 ) in three games in japan, Super Mario World, Super Mario RPG, and Mario and Luigi partners in time. The Super Mario World stage in Melee is also "Yo'ster isle". if you don't believe me, google ヨースター島 and look at images, its all melee, SMW, and SMRPG. Every other game the Yoshi Homeland is called "Yoshi's Island" (ヨッシーアイランド).

 

[PolarPanda]

Hey, you guys want something really juicy? Star Fox Grand Prix never really existed. It was an industry hoax. That's all I'll say on this subject.
ZenythSmash can corroborate this.

 

[Deleted member]

Hey, you guys want something really juicy? Star Fox Grand Prix never really existed. It was an industry hoax. That's all I'll say on this subject.
ZenythSmash can corroborate this.

Saw his post in Gamefaqs:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77476995/917473059
He seems a bit more direct there.

 

[PsySmasher]

Hey, you guys want something really juicy? Star Fox Grand Prix never really existed. It was an industry hoax. That's all I'll say on this subject.
ZenythSmash can corroborate this.

Wait... so you're saying that Star Fox Grand Prix was... leakbait?

...That's kinda interesting (and ironic too).

 

[EarlTamm]

Hey, you guys want something really juicy? Star Fox Grand Prix never really existed. It was an industry hoax. That's all I'll say on this subject.
ZenythSmash can corroborate this.

Well then.

I think it's fair to say that Nintendo is getting a lot better at baiting people.

 

[PolarPanda]

Well then.

I think it's fair to say that Nintendo is getting a lot better at baiting people.

I can't confirm if it was from somebody in Nintendo. In fact, I don't know who made it up, I just know somebody made it up and spread it around insiders. They certainly were successful. But, alas, Star Fox Grand Prix was fabricated.

 

[GoodGrief741]

Hey, you guys want something really juicy? Star Fox Grand Prix never really existed. It was an industry hoax. That's all I'll say on this subject.
ZenythSmash can corroborate this.

Thank God.

Does that mean that either a new Star Fox or F-Zero could be on the way? Instead of the Frankensteinian monstrosity Nintendo concocted?

 

[PolarPanda]

Thank God.

Does that mean that either a new Star Fox or F-Zero could be on the way? Instead of the Frankensteinian monstrosity Nintendo concocted?

Could be, my foresight is very limited so I'm not sure.

 

[Deleted member]

Could be, my foresight is very limited so I'm not sure.

You should come to the Canary Islands!

 

[Deleted member]

damn everybody think they soooo fancy with their leakbait and ****

why not just be a REAL man/company and actually falsely advertise the game to throw everybody off your tracks jesus

/s if this really wasn't apparent enough