SMASHPOLL: The 2010 Federal Election

[CAOTIC]

Who are you going to vote for?

 

[Dekar289]

one of these options is too hard to look past

 

[TakFR]

Labor purely because Abbot is such a hardcore Christian it's ridiculous, I could just see him being extremely bias in his decisions for what he believes would be "better" for the Australian people >_>

I would probably vote for Greens but they don't really have a chance at challenging the Liberal party =/

 

[CAOTIC]

Labor purely because Abbot is such a hardcore Christian it's ridiculous, I could just see him being extremely bias in his decisions for what he believes would be "better" for the Australian people >_>

I would probably vote for Greens but they don't really have a chance at challenging the Liberal party =/

I'm hearing this too much with a lot of voters; it's that sort of attitude that keeps the top 2 parties exactly where they are.

Are you familiar with the preferential voting system? If you want to support the greens, but concede that labor or liberal will probably win in your seat, then simply put liberal at the bottom of your ballot like this:

1 - Green
2 - X
3 - X
4 - X
5 - X
6 - X
7 - X
8 - Liberal

Labor can go anywhere in spots 2 and 7. In this instance, your primary vote goes to the Greens, but if your seat doesn't have enough Green primary votes to win, your vote will basically count for Labor, since you have put them ahead of Liberal. Your vote has to eventually go towards the top-2 voted parties in your seat (the 2-party system) -- whichever one you placed higher will be where your vote actually counts.

1 - Green
2 - X
3 - X
4 - X
5 - X
6 - X
7 - Labor <- if you put Labor here, your vote will still basically be a vote for Labor
8 - Liberal

NOTE TO EVERYONE: the most important part of the ballot is LAST place, ie, the party you DON'T want to elect. that way, that way your vote will never go to them, after preferneces are distributed.

 

[TakFR]

ah ok then I haven't actually voted before so I wasn't familiar with the system =)

 

[undead_moose]

Labour

2 reasons. Julia gillard is a fox.

Tony abbot pretty much said he hates gay people.

Whilst Julia was very political about it
" I don't hate homosexuals" type thing. Both are opposed to gay marrige. Sad face

 

[Attila_]

im going to null vote. i dont know enough about politics to make a proper decision anyway, so i dont see why im forced to have a say.

 

[Dekar289]

i'm in your boat attila
let's get freaky

it's sad that people like tak are allowed to vote

 

[Zero]

Sex partyyyyyyy

Shame that the Pirate Party aren't contesting this election.

 

[Rad]

Never ending party

 

[Dekar289]

gamers4croydon amirite rofl

 

[iKiLLOTz]

Personally i think none of them should be elected

 

[luke_atyeo]

I should probably just write DEKAR in big letters over the top of the whole ballot slip

 

[...Ellipsis...]

Yeah people really don't seem to get preferential voting. Anyway I will most certainly vote for greens. Family first will be last.

 

[xXArrowXx]

labour... how boring -,- but it is what i am voting for atm.

 

[CAOTIC]

Labour

2 reasons. Julia gillard is a fox.

Tony abbot pretty much said he hates gay people.

Whilst Julia was very political about it
" I don't hate homosexuals" type thing. Both are opposed to gay marrige. Sad face

more interestingly, the ALP env. minister penny wong, who is a lesbian, maintains an anti-gay marriage stance as well. had she not been linked to an increasingly conservative ALP, she would have given a different response. the status-quo type national collective is responsible for the major parties doing what they think is best to win the vote of the wider public.

im going to null vote. i dont know enough about politics to make a proper decision anyway, so i dont see why im forced to have a say.

good to see you can at least admit to an ignorance of politics (that's much better than forming a viewpoint without any qualitative insight). hopefully someday you can make an educated opinion to at least post a meaningful vote; there aren't many countries out there with a stable political system like ours; many people here take for granted the institutional arrangements that are very difficult to administer.

mandatory voting has its pros and cons -- arguably more pros if you have an understanding of voting cultures in other nations

Yeah people really don't seem to get preferential voting. Anyway I will most certainly vote for greens. Family first will be last.

good luck with that, i'll be doing the same, and i'm very excited to be doing so. the seat i'm enrolled in at the 2007 election had a results of:
ALP (lindsay tanner) - 55%
GRN (adam bandt) - 45%
...after preferences.

this time, linsday tanner (the incumbent) won't be contesting the seat he held since 1993, the girl that's replacing him to contest is a no-namer, and there will be a huge swing towards greens, so if all goes well we'll have the first greens rep in the lower house this yr alp losing lindsay tanner is a huge loss for them, all the better for us!

 

[unreon]

Yeah people really don't seem to get preferential voting. Anyway I will most certainly vote for greens. Family first will be last.

pretty much doing this, with Liberal just above FF. Or should I swap them around? hummmm.

what are the recent polls showing? I'm surprised Gilliard called the vote so early in the year - IT"S RIGHT AFTER MY HUGE EXAM farout. Don't even get to party hard; must vote the next morning siiiiiiigh

 

[Toby.]

I see we all agree

edit: by we i'm referring to Unreon, Cao, Liam and I.

<3333333333333333

 

[CAOTIC]

Unny: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/07/26/2963714.htm

EDIT - oh i wub you guys tooooooo <33333333333

 

[Atticus]

I love the preferential voting system, it's a shame so many people take it for granted. In the USA, if you want to vote Green you risk helping someone like Bush into office, so many left-wing voters have to opt for the "lesser of two evils". Here, there's no reason to give a major party your primary vote if you think they're both wrong on crucial issues.

That's certainly the case for me in this election, with neither acting on climate change, both opposing gay marriage, internet censorship a Labor policy with no real opposition from Liberals, and both parties in a contest to see who can treat asylum seekers ****tiest. I'll be voting Greens.

 

[Hater]

Family First for LYF

 

[xXArrowXx]

greens dont have enough greens (both types) to get stuff done

 

[Shaya]

For once I'm positively ... ughhdd about the evils of those we are to be voting for...

Labour is crap. I always say this though so eh.
But the Liberal party.... isn't too shiny either.

I just want a government that isn't putting us into debt . Labour seems... less likely to do that.
However, if they do promise a $900 tax free give out that I'm eligible for sometime within the next few days, I see a swing for COMRADE GILLARD, HAIL!

It sucks my seat is actually Peter Garret.
He's outright failing to stop the oceans from going extinct. BUT ITS PETER GARRET.
BLEGJHSGSF

I hope Toby/Liam don't take this post too seriously

 

[Marteh]

Greens represent!

 

[Mic_128]

Probably have Greens and Sex Party as the first two, not sure who I want to put last at this point. Labour's done a pretty crappy job, but I intensely dislike Abbot and co.

I wish we could vote for our local seat and vote for the PM separately. Our local liberal rep might be great, but because he's related to Abbot, he gets shafted.

 

[isthattim?]

I'm voting labour because i actually like my rights as a worker.

edit: probably should elaborate

when i started work in late 2007, just as workchoices was getting repealed i had two options, sign an AWA or opt for the award rate. The award was a fair compensation for the work done and had been reached through decades of campaigning, industrial action and discussion between the union and the university. The AWA was an incredibly draconian erosion of workers rights and offered significantly less annual leave, superannuation contributions and removed many of the provisions gained in the past decade or so (increased paid maternity leave, carers leave, study leave) for a <5% increase in pay.

My father, grandfather and probably many of your relatives before you went through great personal sacrifice and hardship to ensure that our rights as workers in this country are at the level that they are today, a level that most take for granted and a level that is envied in many parts of the world.

I for one do not wish to end up with a more american system of industrial relations, because i assure you it will be the lower and middle classes that suffer.

You can call me a communist Pinko for saying this but i don't care, if it's a choice between high taxes: high public spending and low taxes:low public spending i will always opt for the first and it will always be the people that benefit.

 

[Scabe]

Is there really an Australian Sex Party?

...?

...

 

[CAOTIC]

Here you go: http://australiansexparty.org.au/

 

[Shaya]

Voting for the ASP sounds like a sure fire way of avoiding internet censorship!

 

[Redact]

id poll in gillards booth if you know what i mean

 

[xXArrowXx]

the asp policies sound good... but they seem like small topics in the grand scheme...

labor and liberal will both raise taxes.. labor might actually do something with it tho.
greens would need to raise the taxes alot @_@ i am not saying that more tax is a bad thing.. just something to think about

 

[Nova]

I found a picture of Julia Gillard attractive the other day.
So she's gay, and is a robot - two negatives.
So I hate her and I'm not voting for her or her party.

....And I haven't been following politics that much.

Scabe I'll vote for you if you blah blah and rah w/e into politics. <3

 

[CAOTIC]

the asp policies sound good... but they seem like small topics in the grand scheme...

labor and liberal will both raise taxes.. labor might actually do something with it tho.
greens would need to raise the taxes alot @_@ i am not saying that more tax is a bad thing.. just something to think about

they are a new party -- their main goal isn't to be a major party with overarching policies across the spectrum. they are only hoping for enough primary votes to get them a seat somewhere in the lower house, so that eventually so that the focussed issues they stand for won't be ignored.

they are simply trying to fill in the 'balance of power' void, left by the democrats, but the greatest threat to the asp getting anywhere is basically the greens, since they would essentially stand for the same things, exc. the greens is more established.

 

[xXArrowXx]

well they will be up there on my list i guess.

 

[Shaya]

Newspaper headlines today state that abbot is ahead of gillard as preferred PM, 52% to 48%.

 

[Vyse]

Labour, then Greens.
Liberal at the bottom.

id poll in gillards booth if you know what i mean

I laughed hard at this. I don't know why.

 

[CAOTIC]

Newspaper headlines today state that abbot is ahead of gillard as preferred PM, 52% to 48%.

you're misquoting, the lib v alp 52-48 is the two-party vote. gillard is the preferred pm over abbott, 49%-41%

also, of the people polled, 7/10 believe alp would win the election, so i detect survey backlash, with people voting alp at the actual polling booth.

 

[isthattim?]

you're misquoting, the lib v alp 52-48 is the two-party vote. gillard is the preferred pm over abbott, 49%-41%

also, of the people polled, 7/10 believe alp would win the election, so i detect survey backlash, with people voting alp at the actual polling booth.

i've been working for the people that do the morgan poll recently and they are pretty shonky. I wouldn't actually trust the poll when they primarily exist to be newsworthy at the expense of accuracy

 

[CAOTIC]

that's unfortunate; the polls have a different kind of credibility, because they directly affect voter confidence through manipulative popular media.

 

[undead_moose]

I hate those polls

POLLS SAY JULIA WILL BE SMASHED IN THE ELECTION

Julia Gillard 49%

Tony Abbot 51%

=/