Smash Ultimate Leak Discussion Thread

[Spazzy_D]

Yeah, I don't blame him at all. After I made some tweets about the box theory GameFaqs users made several threads about me calling me some pretty bad stuff and I snapped back at some people. He obviously gets a lot more hate than I do, so I commend him for his patience.

Gotta change that footer graphic. #Branding

 

[Deleted member]

I thought that still was a leak, not official yet. Is there a Trailer?

It is a leak, got confused, but it is as good as confirmed(game got rated in Korea)

 

[KingofKoopas]

Yeah, and I hate to go off topic, but the one coming? The one making Broly canon? That one looks pretty epic.

I cant go into details about it because i dunno but i was TOLD it was the way Broly was ORIGINALLY written, before he became the meme that he is now. I can actually take THIS Broly Seriously

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Still fine with Steve under the condition Banjo is DLC though.

 

[Exalt4747]

So I just saw Verge using autism as an insult.

I gotta say, I'm disappointed.

 

[Deleted member]

It doesn't really matter if Pokemon got everything back. TPC wants to see a newcomer to promote their latest generation. And they're the TPC. It's like a mob boss; they get what they want. It doesn't really matter what your opinion of it is (hope this isn't harsh at all)
I personally love Incineroar, I hope you come to like him as well.

TBH a lot of my distaste for him was and still sorta is my disappointment with how he turned out. Litten is my favorite of the starters, and I was reaaaalllly hoping for a cool fire puma, lol. If he's fun to play, though, I'll probably come around. I like it's personality a lot, that's for sure. I mean, I used to hate Sonic Boom Knuckles, but watching the cartoon made me love him. I tend to flip flop a lot on things I like and dislike.

Spoiler: Basically...

I'm sorry to say nothing will win me over to Ken, though. I would've preferred Akuma, but eh.

 

[Luigi The President]

TBH a lot of my distaste for him was and still sorta is my disappointment with how he turned out. Litten is my favorite of the starters, and I was reaaaalllly hoping for a cool fire puma, lol. If he's fun to play, though, I'll probably come around. I like it's personality a lot, that's for sure. I mean, I used to hate Sonic Boom Knuckles, but watching the cartoon made me love him. I tend to flip flop a lot on things I like and dislike.

Spoiler: Basically...

I'm sorry to say nothing will win me over to Ken, though. I would've preferred Akuma, but eh.

I too wanted Akuma but Ken wormed his way into my heart. Barely though. I just like the guy, he's a dork.
I'm the opposite, hated Litten but took a chance and now I love Incineroar.

 

[LetterO]

a series known mostly for its music

I read this and I instantly thought of Rhythm Heaven. At this point I don't know what I'd do if we don't get some form of representation above a trophy and music.

 

[StarLight42]

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Proof that Verge used autism as an insult. I never liked the guy, personally.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Autism as an Insult is just part of the internet as a whole honestly. Also high functioning autistic here, I got no issue with it.. Lets not turn this into a Cultural/Political Thread over it.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I read this and I instantly thought of Rhythm Heaven. At this point I don't know what I'd do if we don't get some form of representation above a trophy and music.

Yeah, it's kinda Infuriating being an RH fan... The franchise has been going on since 2006 and it still doesn't have a rep in Smash... What is the holdup?

 

[Noipoi]

TBH a lot of my distaste for him was and still sorta is my disappointment with how he turned out. Litten is my favorite of the starters, and I was reaaaalllly hoping for a cool fire puma, lol. If he's fun to play, though, I'll probably come around. I like it's personality a lot, that's for sure. I mean, I used to hate Sonic Boom Knuckles, but watching the cartoon made me love him. I tend to flip flop a lot on things I like and dislike.

Spoiler: Basically...

I'm sorry to say nothing will win me over to Ken, though. I would've preferred Akuma, but eh.

Personally I loved Litten as well, and was disappointed in it's evolution. it felt too jarring and a little out of no where.

but if you think about it, it makes sense.

Litten (Reserved, conceals it's emotions)-Torracat (Letting it's emotions show more)-Incineroar (Wild and untamed, fully let it's emotions show)

It may not be the progression we hoped for, but it's still a natural progression.

I've learned to love it's hilarious personality, and I hope to see it in Smash.

 

[monadoboy]

Verge using autism as an insult.

Proof that Verge used autism as an insult.

Just remember that him being a jerk doesn't have any weight on his credibility.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

As someone who has autism. No one should ever use it to insult others. It's disrespectful and very distasteful.

 

[Exalt4747]

I liked the whole Litten line from the start.

The pokemon fandom were unreasonable about Incineroar then, and the smash fandom has been now.

Just remember that him being a jerk doesn't have any weight on his credibility.

Oh, I know. I'm just hoping people don't start using this as ammunition against the characters.

 

[Deleted member]

I too wanted Akuma but Ken wormed his way into my heart. Barely though. I just like the guy, he's a dork.
I'm the opposite, hated Litten but took a chance and now I love Incineroar.

I think it's something with Ken's face. Something about it bugs me, lol.

I mean...I'm not gonna lie, if anything might make my Incineroar grumps go away, it'll be seeing this in HD:

Gimme that and some Tony the Tiger memes and I'll join the Incineroar fan club. It ain't Zangief, but it'll do.

 

[KingofKoopas]

As someone who has autism. No one should ever use it to insult others. It's disrespectful and very distasteful.

tbh thats like if someone who had cancer or was bit by a snake said nobody should use the terms Cancerous or Toxic as insults.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

How much I still wish they went with the saber-toothed cat design over the generic wrestler cat. Especially being saber-toothed cats are my favorite Ice Age animals.

 

[Jigglymaster]

I liked the whole Litten line from the start.

The pokemon fandom were unreasonable about Incineroar then, and the smash fandom has been now.

Well in an ironic repeat of history, this is the 2nd time Incineroar has been leaked before the game he appears in comes out. All the 2nd time he's been met with disapproval.

 

[Noipoi]

I think it's something with Ken's face. Something about it bugs me, lol.

I mean...I'm not gonna lie, if anything might make my Incineroar grumps go away, it'll be seeing this in HD:

Gimme that and some Tony the Tiger memes and I'll join the Incineroar fan club. It ain't Zangief, but it'll do.

The mighty T-Pose better be his side special.

 

[Luigi The President]

tbh thats like if someone who had cancer or was bit by a snake said nobody should use the terms Cancerous or Toxic as insults.

No it isn't??

You're not born with cancer or being bit with a snake. You don't have to live with cancer or being bit by a snake your whole life.

Let people voice their concerns just for a bit. Verge was disrespectful, no real need to defend him, don't see why we have to act like it being "normal" makes it any better lol

 

[Nekoo]

I wonder how the heck most of you would fare playing FPS games then if just Someone Calling out and using "autist".

Everyone have a different sensibility.


But when you have people insulting you daily and spamming you. Trust me. Me too I wouldn't give a **** about people's sensibility if they can't think of mine.


That's a double standard and People being Disappointed or surprised by his behaviors shouldn't be.

 

[Exalt4747]

Well in an ironic repeat of history, this is the 2nd time Incineroar has been leaked before the game he appears in comes out. All the 2nd time he's been met with disapproval.

Yes, although he leaked with the other third forms artwise, and then with much of the game near release.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Guys.....being a leaker doesn't excuse someone from being a scumbag. You could be a racist, misogynist, sexist filth and be right about leaking content.

Like, has anybody ever seen the **** 4chan posters say? And I'm sure many of them exist right here on this forum.

 

[Noipoi]

Well in an ironic repeat of history, this is the 2nd time Incineroar has been leaked before the game he appears in comes out. All the 2nd time he's been met with disapproval.

And the second time opinions will change once they see how cool he is in action .

 

[CosmicQuark]

tbh thats like if someone who had cancer or was bit by a snake said nobody should use the terms Cancerous or Toxic as insults.

The difference is that cancer patients and snake bite victims do not have the same stigma that those with autism have had.

Again, I've always felt Verge was an asshole. But he's also been right on Smash. I can hold those two views simultaneously.

 

[praline]

I think it's something with Ken's face. Something about it bugs me, lol.

I mean...I'm not gonna lie, if anything might make my Incineroar grumps go away, it'll be seeing this in HD:

Gimme that and some Tony the Tiger memes and I'll join the Incineroar fan club. It ain't Zangief, but it'll do.

Tony the T-Pose Tiger.

 

[Fenriraga]

I don't think Verge ever set out to make himself look like the shining beacon of kindhearted leakers, people. It's not a "nice" thing to say, obviously, but as someone who DOES have Autism and has been all around the internet, it's REALLY not anything to get worked up over. It's... kinda just internet lingo for "idiot" honestly, one of those words that has kinda lost its meaning overtime. I doubt Verge gives a crap about where someone sits on the spectrum. :V

He's got hundreds of people demanding his blood and confession over a theory that has yet to go beyond just being a theory. Obviously he's heated right now. He reaps what he sows being a leaker of sensistive, private information. He knows that.

Autism as an Insult is just part of the internet as a whole honestly. Also high functioning autistic here, I got no issue with it.. Lets not turn this into a Cultural/Political Thread over it.

Pretty much this.

 

[Nekoo]

Like, has anybody ever seen the **** 4chan posters say? And I'm sure many of them exist right here on this forum.

I plead guilty at charge.
But if you take anything said on 4chan seriously, you're already letting >US win because that's the reaction >we want.

 

[Luigi The President]

Anyhoo, I'm obviously incredibly desensitized to the use of autism as an insult but let's not downplay the fact that some others have negative feelings towards being called that and that it's okay to dislike calling people autistic for the hell of it.

Back to Smash, that's all I think I have to say and what really needs to be said.

 

[KingofKoopas]

No it isn't??

You're not born with cancer or being bit with a snake. You don't have to live with cancer or being bit by a snake your whole life.

Let people voice their concerns just for a bit. Verge was disrespectful, no real need to defend him, don't see why we have to act like it being "normal" makes it any better lol

Literally any word can be used as an Insult. I happen to use Box Theorist as an Insult in my circles. Go after the action, not the word.

 

[Luigi The President]

I do find the Minecon "the thing we can't talk about" hint pretty interesting.

Fellas Nintendo really isn't as reluctant to reveal stuff outside of Directs as we think.
Remember Starlink?

My hopes aren't up but it wouldn't have been the first time or anything this happened.

 

[Exalt4747]

Literally any word can be used as an Insult. I happen to use Box Theorist as an Insult in my circles. Go after the action, not the word.

That is an absurd comparison.

 

[Narr]

"you cannot be frustrated about anything on the internet or want things to improve ever. i am very smart."

 

[Deleted member]

Tony the T-Pose Tiger.

...Okay fine I like him now.

If it gets in, I'll try it out for sure. It may not be what I wanted, but hey, I shouldn't let that get in the way of giving it a shot and maybe coming to like it, design disappointments aside.

 

[monadoboy]

I think it's something with Ken's face. Something about it bugs me, lol.

I mean...I'm not gonna lie, if anything might make my Incineroar grumps go away, it'll be seeing this in HD:

Gimme that and some Tony the Tiger memes and I'll join the Incineroar fan club. It ain't Zangief, but it'll do.

Yo, wait a minute.
If Incineroar has Zangief's Double Lariat I might actually like ihim

 

[StarLight42]

Okay I know this is a risky move and i'm gonna get a lot of hell or even get banned from this site, but I was KamekNo1Fan, and I can open my banned account and post a picture if you want me to prove it.

In my defense, while I did ping Verge nonstop, all I merely wanted was an explanation as to why his leaks didn't match up with the Music Theory. Many of his defenders on GameFAQS then shapeshifted that into me somehow "harassing" him.

And yes, I also did ping PushDustin a lot, and in retrospect, i'm sorry to Push. That being said, I was irritated at the time how hard he was clinging to the box theory, and I wanted an explanation.

Feel free to ask me anything. Yes, i'm ready for a heatwave of hatred.

 

[Z25]

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Proof that Verge used autism as an insult. I never liked the guy, personally.

You should probably censor this. It has language not allowed on smash boards

 

[Exalt4747]

Okay I know this is a risky move and i'm gonna get a lot of hell or even get banned from this site, but I was KamekNo1Fan, and I can open my banned account and post a picture if you want me to prove it.

In my defense, while I did ping Verge nonstop, all I merely wanted was an explanation as to why his leaks didn't match up with the Music Theory. Many of his defenders on GameFAQS then shapeshifted that into me somehow "harassing" him.

And yes, I also did ping PushDustin a lot, and in retrospect, i'm sorry to Push. That being said, I was irritated at the time how hard he was clinging to the box theory, and I wanted an explanation.

I would need to see what you specifically posted, but I definitely think people were being pretty unreasonable, both in what they were saying and the premise that he had to give the music theory the time of day.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I do find the Minecon "the thing we can't talk about" hint pretty interesting.

Fellas Nintendo really isn't as reluctant to reveal stuff outside of Directs as we think.
Remember Starlink?

My hopes aren't up but it wouldn't have been the first time or anything this happened.

Here's how I think its gonna happen.

Minecon: Steve(69) is revealed
October: Incineroar(70) and Ken(60e) are revealed in a Lucina/Robin style trailer
November: Final Smash Direct reveals Elma(71), Geno(72), Dixie Kong(36e), Shadow(38e) and Medusa(54e) as the final characters

Rounds out to 80 fighters (85 if we count Pokemon Trainer, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard and Mii Fighters as separate).

At least that's my prediction though.